Want to know where Windows Phone outsells the Apple iPhone? Check out this infographic
0. phoneArena 03 May 2014, 12:28 posted on
Last December, there were 24 countries on this planet where Windows Phone handsets outsold the Apple iPhone. Windows Phone did have a good 2013. Research firm Kantar called it the fastest growing mobile OS in the world. Of course, Windows Phone did start the year with a low base, which made it easier to show a huge percentage gain. For example, in the U.S., 2013 saw Microsoft's mobile OS rise 67% to hold a 5% market share in the stateside smartphone market...
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1. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 1925; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
Not a problem for Apple, and Apple fans wouldn't mind (unlike most fans of other platforms). Good to see WP growing.
9. Finalflash (Posts: 2545; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Lol well because no one cares for the distant third when it comes to the compensation race. They just beat the shinking ship that is BB after 2 years so I don't know if that means they're sinking slower or actually floating. Only time will tell.
21. Sauce (unregistered)
No. Honestly, Apple fans don't care like he said. It's people like you who go night and day who can't stand other platforms succeed.
30. sgodsell (Posts: 2800; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
This is more propaganda. To cover up the fact that Nokia's smartphone sales dropped by 30% in Q1 2014.
31. Sauce (unregistered)
Whatever it is, it is an article, and an article at that. Yes, businesses succeed and business fail, but it's people like Finalflash who pop some 3 inch woodies over any negative Apple or WP news, hoping death upon the company every day of their life lol. It's funny watching these type of people comment on articles and continuously get trolled by people who honestly don't give a hoot.
44. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
That is a lie, Nokia smartphone sales did not fall by 30%. Nokia Phones in general fell by 30% which included smartphones and feature phones. Nokia even said that the decline was mainly due to the stark decline in feature phone sales, Apple and Samsung also fell, Nokia Lumia sales increased from 5.6 million in quarter 1 as Phonearena reported, only propaganda here is you. .
45. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
Apple and Apple Fans sure act like they care. Remember the Mac vs "PC" Commercials?
38. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
BlackBerry has nothing to do with this article, as they aren't mentioned anywhere in it, finalflash.
23. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I find it odd you say this....because when Android was at the absolute bottom....all you heard was Apple fans talk trash about Android. They wont last past [insert year here], it sucks, etc.
It was the Win Mo fans that didnt mind their platform being leap frogged.
And to this day Apple fans still cant accept Android outselling the iPhone.
What planet are you from?
51. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea there were a few of us. BB fans didnt mind either, Palm fans too.
27. Aboodbanafa (Posts: 27; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
Apple Fans would not mind you're right, but Apple developers at least they'll notice
2. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
"fastest growing in the world"
well when you are coming from nothing... no surprises.
4. akki20892 (Posts: 3872; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
WP here because of Nokia. And that's true fact.
8. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
That is largely true but its also true that Android is here because of Samsung, HTC, Sony, LG and host of other phone manufacturers.
24. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
When you have a lot of different OEM's....thats the way it should be.
Whats the incentive for companies doing WP phones to keep doing one?
2 platforms.....both have more than 1 OEM.....
1 is getting more popular, making gains with 1 OEM, the other with a handful..which do you think is the better scenario for OEMs?
54. Velda (Posts: 15; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)
Only Samsung and maybe HTC. The others are not relevant. (I'm not fan of Samsung, nor of HTC)
56. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If that really was the case....LG wouldnt have just reported record sales recently. Record sales from Android because they are almost invisible in WP land. And HTC is barely holding on.
A small OEM that is going to be doing WP soon has good sales with Android.
Its not only Samsung...unlike WP and Nokia...
25. sgodsell (Posts: 2800; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Here's some other facts HTC, Samsung, LG, and Dell all made WP devices at the beginning, even before Nokia made any WP devices, and before Microsoft started paying Nokia 250 million per quarter. Then Dell and LG pulled out after each making a few smart phones and losing lots of money, because no one was buying WP devices.
46. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Yes they all made WP from the beginning its obvious that the Licensing fee from an untested new OS was not worth it at the time, that does not mean the OS is not good, as a matter of fact user feedback, reviews, consumer satisfaction surveys are all very favorable towards the OS and it set the trend for all mobile platform going flat UI, that does not just sound like a good OS to me it sounds like a great one.
Now that WP is free now you will see much old and new OEMs imbrace the platform, 9 new OEMs on top of those that had signed on before the OS was license free signed on for 8.1 and that's excluding Blu and Yeez who recently released low end WP if my memory serves me correct. Microsoft is shifting their business model from monetizing software to monetizing services and hardware. You focus on the past I focus on the future.
52. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
All thats fine...but if the major OEM's arent happy, satisfied...what does that say about WP as a platform.
WP is Nokia only. Its kinda ironic that Nokia are the only ones doing well....and MS has immediate ties to Nokia.
Is there any favoritism at play? Is MS doing things extra with, for Nokia thats helping them succeed?
Its kinda wild Samsung is so popular with Android.....but almost invisible with WP. Is Samsung and other major OEMs just not putting the effort in WP?
I would like to know if any of the questions I asked are true.
7. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Doesn't change the fact that it is the fastest growing, selling tens of Millions units YOY.
Its pretty much like saying Android sells the most devices cause it has way more OEM's making boatlods of different Android devices hence flooding the market.
10. Finalflash (Posts: 2545; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
No Android sells because that many hundreds of millions want to buy it, lots of those same OEMs are making WP devices but people only buy ones with the Nokia name on them. The flooding = more sales theory (speculation really) is kind of getting stupid now.
16. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Hundereds of Millions of general consumers don't necessarily know its an Android smartphone, they Identify Galaxy S phones for eg as a Samsung Phone not a Android phone Google is even now making it madatory for its OEM's to say(powered by Android) when you turn them on. Many of these OEM's pushed Android because it was cheaper to manufacture than a WP.
People do by other WP but unlike some OEMs who made both WP/Android but focused mainly on Android arguably because it was free, Nokia focused on WP and pushed the OS so it's only common sense that more people will buy them
Now that WP is free just like Android and in many cases even cheaper to make than Android because of patent fees Android OEM's still has to pay MS you will see more OEM's low and highend pushing WP.
29. sgodsell (Posts: 2800; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
You are only talking about how free or not free the OS's are. Did it ever occur to you that Android do more, and has a vast and diverse ecosystem. Two huge factors that help make a platform. Look at Apple. They certainly do not have the best hardware, and cannot do more then Android, but Apple has a vast and diverse ecosystem.
47. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
I talk about how free or not an OS is because to me because to me Open and Closed OS is not about one being better than the other it is about one being different than the other. Not everyone needs all the features that comes with Android some will feel its overload, some people just want a simple, smooth, consistent experience, closed OS tends to a better job at achieving those tasks, where as Android is a more feature filled OS the price you pay is it being more virus prone, pick your poison, 8.1 is very flexible feature wise but without the virus atmosphere that surrounds android..
Cmon now you Microsoft has a very vast and diverse eco system with some of the worlds best known brands, I do think they do more than Android but again its about both eco systems different not necessarily better.
17. brrunopt (Posts: 739; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Maybe because those other OEM are making crap , Nokia was the only one making great hardware..
Samsung , have you looked at their WP offering ; ugly as hell and not really good hardware
HTC as better but not at level with what Nokia was making..
Wee will see in 1y , without the fees and many OEM jumping into the WP boat..
32. sgodsell (Posts: 2800; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
How can OEMS screw up on the hardware. You have to choose from a specific set of Qualcomm CPUs, use a certain resolution display. They all have the same software an the exact same UI, granted OEMS can add a few of their own apps if they want. But the UI is the same for all WP devices. Only screen resolutions can add/remove another row of tiles.
33. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Exactly...WP has a specific set of hardware to choose from, like the iPhone.
35. sip1995 (Posts: 1503; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Correction.....Windows phone 8.1 can work with ANY android hardware.
39. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
MS only allows a specific set of hardware for WP to run on....
Until that changes....WP cant run on any Android hardware.
43. sgodsell (Posts: 2800; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Correction Windows phone 8.1 can only work with any Qualcomm CPU, and not any Android hardware.
40. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Lol. Everytime Microsoft gives away another batch of free Windows phone, it increases the market share. It's like AOL giving out all those CDs. It makes things look better than they are.
3. mturby (unregistered)
if android wouldn't exist, WP could been my 2nd choice.
5. AJagtiani (Posts: 466; Member since: 24 Apr 2014)
Of course, Apple wouldn't care about market share since all they care about are profits. Good to see WP growing. Keep up the good work Nokia & Microsoft.
12. Lauticol (Posts: 285; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)
Or should you say "Microsoft & Microsoft"?
15. Ninetysix (Posts: 2195; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Do you have a job? Does your company care about your business profits?
26. jroc74 (Posts: 5834; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Correction...Apple doesnt care about market share ....anymore....
They did once upon a time when BB was the market share leader...and they were catching up to it. Jobs made sure to mention is in keynotes.
For some reason they dont as much anymore...if at all. They make sure to talk about profits tho.
11. Shujah (Posts: 7; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Not that much people use WP in Pakistan as the infographic is showing.. Android and IOS mostly being used
14. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The infographic also points out a verious serious problem for app developers -- massive fragmentation of the WP user base across languages and cultures. This makes it very costly and time consuming to make a WP app that a large fraction of the user base can utilize.
This sort of language/culture fragmentation is even worse than device fragmentation that we see with Android.
19. Kriksis (Posts: 92; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
Like language fragmentation didn't exist in iOS and ANDROID user base...
20. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
You missed the point. Because of Android's massive market share, you can develop for a much smaller number of languages and still be able to sell your apps to many possible customers. On the other hand, WP, is literally, "all over the map".
22. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Funny how all those WP users claim Android only sells well because of low price handsets. Oh the irony.
34. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
The no apps no games platform still falls behind BB
I don't think it would last another 2years till they introduce another platform which again will fail, because like its previous iteration it failed, what could would the new WP9 be
MS just give up, no one wants your empty platform and no apps and games
37. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Nah, not give up, open the heck up!
Be a contender, not a pretender.
Until then, it's high humor to watch the new kids flout it's all that abilities.
As well BBQ where needed.
42. checkmymike (Posts: 143; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)
Im sure apple doesnt care too much for this. This just comprised of low end lumias with little to nothing profit margin.
49. refillable (Posts: 834; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Well I guess this is mostly because Nokia's more diverse market from low end to high end. That's very different from apple who charge $1000 for their 64GB 5S and $550 for the 16GB 5C. If they (both apple and MS) keep the same strategy, in 2017/2018 iOS could have a very tough battle mantaining it's Second spot.
53. Scott93274 (Posts: 3563; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
Maybe if Apple didn't make the mistake of making the iPhone an at&t exclusive for several years, they might have still been top dog in the smartphone market. It prevented a good majority of the cellular market from getting their hands on the device and by the time they opened up to other providers, Google already had consumers hooked with Android. The Motorola Droid was my first smartphone, and it’s the reason why I stayed with Google’s OS all these years. I think that Microsoft is a bit too late to the Smartphone/tablet party. It’s going to end up dying out like the Zune. But maybe I’m wrong, Cortana actually looks like it’s promising… a mix of Iris and Google Now.
55. superfans (Posts: 155; Member since: 30 Jul 2012)
Malaysia and thailand ???? In here iPhone and samsung r the king and queen. Hardly see anyone own a windows phone. Highly doubt this inforgraphic.
60. Chrisyahya (Posts: 59; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
nope, i see much windows phone users at malls in malaysia.
57. joey_sfb (Posts: 4973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
WP is a poor third option for me. I will take WinMo 6.5 over it. WinMo is less restrictive at least it come with a file manager.