Wall Streeter says Apple has made a final decision to use a 4.8 inch screen on the Apple iPhone 6
The report to investors dovetails a similar one made in September by well connected Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities. That report said that the iPhone 6 will have a larger screen, but will not be as large as 5 inches. This way, the phone could still be operated with one hand. Whatever Kuo says should be listened to intently. Last year, weeks before the Apple iPhone 5s was unveiled, the analyst correctly predicted that the next flagship iPhone would have a fingerprint scanner embedded in the home button and even correctly wrote of the sapphire that the home button would employ. More recent reports have Apple designing two separate models, a 4.7 inch iPhone 6, and a 5.7 inch phablet.
Arcuri says that the next iPhone will also offer the latest Wi-Fi standard, 802.11ac. Macs that Apple refreshed last year include the new standard, but the Apple iPhone 5s is limited to 802.11n connectivity. He also says that the next major iOS release will feature "key software innovations" with new features based on iBeacon, Passbook and TouchID. Besides the latter, he expects the 64-bit A7 processor to give Apple the ability to offer features that would allow it to gain a step up on its rivals.
The analyst expects a September unveiling of the iPhone 6, but some sources have told him that a June launch of the next generation iPhone is possible. In addition, Arcuri is also calling for the launch of a 13 inch Apple iPad later this year, which he says will blur the line between tablet and PC.
1. ZeroCide (Posts: 702; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
Not sure why this is wallstreet news that an analyst gets involved in. Just a boost to pump up the stock, maybe! seems like the iphone will get a little bigger now.
Anouther day, Anouther iphone.
62. Bozzor (Posts: 150; Member since: 02 May 2012)
The iPhone is a phenomenon that generates something like $50 billion in annual sales alone; that is more revenue than produced by companies such as Dupont, Oracle and News Corp in their entirety. Even small changes to it could generates billions in cash flow changes. Naturally, many Wall Street's top analysts keep a close eye on it, rumours of design specs, supply chain orders etc.
75. abdane (Posts: 480; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
i hope this is true, and it needs to be 1080p to compete with other android devices, if it was 4.8" 1080p i'm in :)
2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9078; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I hope this rumor is true. Champaign Gold iPhone 6!
28. bibekpachhai (unregistered)
I'm waiting for that to upgrade! IPhone 5s is a small screen for me!
51. Topcat488 (Posts: 1178; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
+1 greeny from me dude... All Apple have to do now is sell rubber thumbs extensions, with a bitten apple logo on it, sorta like a conehead for the thumb.... People would certainly gobble that up for their one-handed use again, i'm sure of it... I'm drawing up a patent for this, at this very moment.
73. jcdz89 (Posts: 78; Member since: 01 Mar 2013)
Finally.... now all ilovers will say bigger is better,who needs tiny toys..
3. DOUBLE_BASS (Posts: 44; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
Who said that all people wants that? I have moved from samsung endless $hitty galaxies to the iphone 5 and i am loving it. I think its size is perfect, i will use my ipad or my laptop if i wanted a bigger screen.
7. buccob (Posts: 1657; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Did you missed the recent Poll: How Big is big enough?
What most people want is a 4.5~4.99" screen...
So... next year you will be able to choose a big iPhone and the current iPhone 5S... and the lowend 5C
I will stay with a 4.3" Z1 Compact in the meantime
48. Sauce (unregistered)
Poll......on phonearena...where everyone will do whatever they can do spoil apples name
64. buccob (Posts: 1657; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
The poll had nothing to do with Apple, not even other brands... Just asking what phone size would be ideal to users, just that...
71. Sauce (unregistered)
We all know Apple does not have a large screen and we all know that is what a large majority of this community on this site pokes at. Lol.
77. buccob (Posts: 1657; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
What if I tell you, most people actually want a slightly bigger screen...
Ok dude, you're right, poor Apple... We don't give them a break....
I don't know what you complain about... Most authors here are Apple fans, and you get to read news about Apple cases, Apple ads, Apple patents, Apple farts...
Yes, most commenters are android fans... And yes a lot are annoying and immature, but that goes both ways...
Finally if you don't want to deal with either one of those, stay on the half of the page you like...
13. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
I couldn't imagine moving from the 5" screen I currently use to a 4" screen. That seems bass ackward.
31. buccob (Posts: 1657; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Well... after getting rob of my Galaxy S3 I bougth the Xperia Acro S I am currently using... and yes it felt like a step back in terms of screen size... But I never felt as confortable with the size of the S3 for that matter as I do with the Acro S... that is why I will stay at 4.3" with the Z1C for now...
If they come up with a waterproof design like the ZL or at least like ZR but with next gen specs I will jump back to a bigger screen
49. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
Once you get use to all that screen real estate it's hard to step back. My phone from a couple of years ago (which I still have) is 4.3" and it seems too small now. That's why I won't purchase the Note. I know once I get use to that screen I won't be able to use anything smaller.
68. hurrycanger (Posts: 1364; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
I jumped from 2.8" to 4", then to 4.7", and 3 months ago to 6.3"
I'm gonna say every size is good (except for anything over 6" with huge bezels). The display size is just preference, and how well the phone fits in one hand depends on how much you are willing to learn to manage it. Now I can use the Mega 6.3 with only one hand most of the time. I like to switch back to my old phone once in a while, and it really feels like a step back (a big one) every time I do.
18. stealthd (Posts: 988; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
We don't know that they're abandoning the 4" form factor. They could be doing roughly the same iphone specs in multiple screen sizes.
69. hurrycanger (Posts: 1364; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)
Agree to that. The ~4" size will have to be available still because it has been a reason many people stick with the iPhone. It will piss off a lot of both Apple fans and average iPhone users if the smallest upcoming iPhone is 4.8".
4. PBXtech (Posts: 990; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Still stuck on that "one hand operation" bit. Even pictures of their own engineers show them using two hands to access things on their phone, which is only 4" at the moment.
10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9078; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Moto X can be used with one hand yet it has a 4.7" screen.
16. androiphone20 (Posts: 1546; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
29. PBXtech (Posts: 990; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
One hand operation shouldn't be a major factor in determining screen sizes. The second you impose that restriction, you limit yourself to a lot of capabilities that are suddenly out of reach.
Let's face it, this whole "one hand operation" was nothing more than Jobs defending 3.5" screens as being the perfect size. It was nonsense then and even more today. If Apple adapts larger screens, kudos for Tim Cook being a bigger person and not relying on lame excuses to hold them back.
41. Slammer (Posts: 1133; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I agree with this. I've been saying the same thing ever since he mentioned it. Just like every other hyped up marketing jargon by Apple. For 37 years, Apple has been imposing marketing scheme after scheme to get people interested in it. Only after this generation falls prey to Steve Jobs' marketing prowness, does Apple do well in baiting consumers with the proverbial carrot dangling.
Example: For the last two years, a couple of my colleagues have wished for a larger screen such as a 4.7 or larger. Yet, neither one will switch even thought they are upset that Apple has not issued their wishes during this time. When I ask why they make the sacrifices while Apple doesn't make any, they have no reply. They just look at me as if they have no clue. The ones that have switched, vow never to return.
This is why Apple has become very rich and powerful while holding a very small marketshare. Offer less and charge more. It really is that simple. Uncle new someone that worked for Apple. After he retired, he came clean and said that "Apple's goal was to make profits off of ignorance. Consumers don't know what they want so Apple will convince them." Our generation didn't buy into the hype. Today we pay good money for our products over a two year term, we should expect the product to evolve much quicker with trend. Not leave us wanting more with no results.
79. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Which is why I will never use an iphone - overpriced products - I wonder if the prices will increase due to the screen size of these new iphones...so glad I have a Nexus 5 - rooted, bootloader unlocked, replaced the kernel with one that gives me 2-4 days of battery life, depending on my usage as some days I hardly use a phone, if I am at home.
42. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Moto X can be used one-handed but its not even close to as comfortable. The width increase from the iPhone 5 to Moto X is 7mm. Thats a big jump. Pretty close to going from an S4 to a Note 3 in terms of width.
50. grahaman27 (Posts: 353; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
The width may be wider, but the edges taper down the curved back and it fits your hand much more comfortablt than the boxy iPhone.
5. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
If this rumour is true, what will Alan, Michael, Victor and Ray S now say about iPhone's "PERFECT" 4-inch screen; they have been quoted in the past as saying anything above 4 inches is unnecessary, too big and dumb!!????
6. sgtdisturbed47 (Posts: 195; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
And car companies used to think that anything above 40mph was stupid and unnecessary. Times change, opinions change, and ideas change.
11. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9078; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Michael is a avid supporter of the Moto X, which has a 4.7" screen.. It's his daily driver.
19. stealthd (Posts: 988; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)
Maybe you could provide some of those quotes then, instead of just mentioning them.
53. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Just read PhoneArena's reviews on the Original Galaxy Note; Galaxy Note II; Galaxy S IV; etcetera, etcetera, etcetera....
They always "freak" on size.
25. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6811; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
not to mention its useless top of the line viewing angles please.
45. darkkjedii (Posts: 13507; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Whatever the hell that means. Sometimes I don't think you listen to yourself before you post.
8. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
If this happens I will laugh so hard because 1st 3.5" was perfect for 1 hand use then 4" was and if this becomes than apparently this will be the new screen size for 1 hand usage and as always certain people forget what apple said previously.
32. quakan (Posts: 1238; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
What sense would it make for Apple to come out and say a larger screen size than what they offer is better?
35. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
They can say it's better but saying it's the perfect size for 1 hand use would be a joke considering there stance for having a smaller screen was 1 handed use.
9. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1060; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
If Apple does this, their customers will be pissed. All my friends with iPhones tease me about my "giant" Nexus 5 because they don't want a big phone.
21. androiphone20 (Posts: 1546; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
you're just going about it the wrong way, maybe they were just teasing you cause it's a $350 phone. They'll easily open up to the idea of a 4.8" form factor
22. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1060; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Are you stupid? It has to do with size! Not price. IPhone lovers love that their phone is small, unlike big android phones.
27. androiphone20 (Posts: 1546; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
tf, there's more to it than just the size, it's retarded to think that Apple will lose consumers just because the display goes up a mere 8 inches
37. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1060; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
You clearly missed my point and are turning my post into something its not. Youre turning this into a debate about something im not disagreeing with. I simply made an observation- not a thesis. Have a super awesome day internet warrior.
38. androiphone20 (Posts: 1546; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
I know I messed up when I suggested about it being the price, uhm...Joshing
33. androiphone20 (Posts: 1546; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
I love my iphone and always will but your post just goes to say your judgment solely relies on your friends which is flawed and we cannot go as far as saying this is a big fail cause it's not. If you were teased its not enough to say they can't open up to the idea of a 4.8" iphone
55. HouTexan (Posts: 320; Member since: 08 Jan 2012)
Nah, I have gotten that a lot, too. They say, "That phone's too big," but I can guarantee you if Apple pushes up the screen size to match the Android phones, they will not say anything about screen size. They only do it because they have nothing else to say about larger phones.
26. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
I don't think so. I've impressed a lot of iphone users on my job with the screen, performance and functionality of my $350 Nexus 5.
12. darkkjedii (Posts: 13507; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Hurry up WWDC, and hurry up late September.
54. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
True to form, you're always ready to throw Apple your kids' colege edjumakation' money.
57. darkkjedii (Posts: 13507; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Apple is it September yet, and what the heck is colege edjumakation? Some people are plain dumb.
60. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 1371; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
I think the misspelling was part of the joke...
61. darkkjedii (Posts: 13507; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Man Rebel, I certainly hope so. Otherwise that's horrible grammar, or should I say gramar lol. +1
70. Isitforyou (banned) (Posts: 11; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
Get ready to camp for a week..... With the Hippys and cults....
14. Chikara (Posts: 4; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)
It would be a real improvement if they added a better removable battery with at least 2500-3000mAh ,plus SD card support.
And that is pretty basic stuff, and i don't really know why they haven't done it by now...- oh wait, i know...we all do, they just want to make more money for replacing battery and for the 32-64gb models.
If that's not the reason then the engineers must be stupid, how hard could it be?
24. androiphone20 (Posts: 1546; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
Go figure, why all that crap? An increase in capacity is guaranteed if the size of the iphone changes, it wasn't mentioned cause its just pointless coming from an Wall Street Analyst. Higher battery capacity doesn't always translate to better battery life if a device is not optimised which I believe Apple does well, so it's a no brainer. The other things you mentioned, meh.
44. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Sorry Galaxy devices are that way. I don't want garbage SD card storage that can only store files, not apps and access them SLOWLY.
59. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9078; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Samsung devices let you install apps to the SD card + Class 10 SD cards are blazing fast. Don't spew BS if you don't know the facts.
72. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2056; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
How is more storage a bad thing? So what if you can't store apps on the SD card. How about you use the internal memory for apps and the SD card for media. Now you don't have to worry about app space because your media is stored somewhere else. And if a person doesn't need much storage space, they just don't install an SD card. Why is that such a hard concept for people to understand?
An SD card slot is a lot cheaper than larger memory chips, so it keeps cost down while allowing people to upgrade their memory in the future if they need to. But then I suppose they wouldn't be able to sell them next years phone with larger storage capacity. A new phone with the highest memory runs you around $300 on contract, $700+ off, or an SD card runs you around $50-70. It's better for the manufacturer, worse for the consumer.