WSJ: Nokia's first Android phone (Normandy / Nokia X) will be announced at MWC 2014
0. phoneArena 10 Feb 2014, 13:42 posted on
It looks like it's finally happening: Nokia will officially reveal an Android-based smartphone. The announcement is expected to take place at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona later this month...
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1. wolfsaviorzx (unregistered)
512 mb of ram? What's even the point. Either make a high end android device or stick to windows phone. this is like laughing at android users.
4. corporateJP (Posts: 2023; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
This is meant to take over for S40 on the Ashas line. Microsoft will never let Nokia pump out a high-end Android, at least not now. This phone will be lucky to make it outside of any emerging markets as long as MS is about to take over.
6. Johnnokia (Posts: 582; Member since: 27 May 2012)
You are gonna see how many million device would Nokia buy?.
All this hype of low end Android phone because it is Nokia phone.
Still people trust Nokia, and Nokia still has billions of fans.
So idiot Finnish that sold their handset legend.
12. boosook (Posts: 1121; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Exactly! If it were an LG (or Sony, or Samsung… ) phone, it would simply go unnoticed at best, if not criticized for too low-end specifications in 2014.
21. akki20892 (Posts: 3697; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Agree. They r idiots because they didn't make good decisions and sold Nokia's device And service business, I mean they sold nokia's heart.
40. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2058; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Okay... So you provide Nokia with a 100 billion dollars and i'm sure they'll rethink selling their handset division.
14. sip1995 (Posts: 1012; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Nokia knows how to make good well working phones with only 512mb of ram, look the lumia 520.
18. sgodsell (Posts: 1505; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Thats why they are giving it away with an xbox music subscription now. Even during the holidays the 520 was selling for as low as $49. Nokia still sold 700,000 less lumias from the previous quarter. There are a number of apps that require 1gb of ram to run under WP. Look at even Nokias refocus app requires 1gb of ram. I guess thats why they already released, and are currently selling the 525 which has 1gb of ram.
36. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Less than 1% of the over 200k apps available for WP need 1gb of ram to run... And, those apps are being optimized everyday to run with less ram..... No big deal here....
35. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
You have to give credit to MS for their efficient coding on that one.. I mean realistically speaking..
45. boosook (Posts: 1121; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
The 520 works well because it doesn't do anything. What's more, it can't run some games and apps that can run on Android with 512MB of ram.
2. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Priced correctly, forked Android or not, this will cannibalize their own low end lumias.
Not really excited about it though, since it's a low end. But then, one can expect that if this sells well, nokia might consider Android for their future flagships. =]
3. akki20892 (Posts: 3697; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Hell Yea. This will sell more. And will bring great sold numbers.
8. EyeSee (banned) (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Feb 2014)
512RAM Android devices will always lag, along with weak Cpus..
19. sgodsell (Posts: 1505; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
This phone is using a dual core 1ghz cpu that is a cortex-A5. So this device really is low end.
26. EyeSee (banned) (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Feb 2014)
I see you posting in Pocketnow, Gsmarena, and Bgr, as well...
27. EyeSee (banned) (Posts: 26; Member since: 05 Feb 2014)
And especially on
Wp articles,, disliking along with Data, you and .....
15. eN16HTMAR3 (Posts: 118; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)
If its dosent have the Google play store tho. How many apps are actually going to be available. Only the ones that MS approves. Which is going to suck beings you know they will keep the number of apps lower than what is currently available on Windows Phone.
16. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1053; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
you do know this has nothing to do with windows phone or microsoft it will run "android apps" if your read carefully that are going to be available from the nokia store
25. domfonusr (Posts: 372; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
I'll bet they use the Normandy as an opportunity to put Windows Phone on only their high-end and best handsets. The Asha series will have this forked Android, and will be Nokia's (then Microsoft's) major push for a solid return to the emerging markets as top competitor. The Normandy will never make it to the US.
31. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I never thought this device would see the day of light, but here it is... Even WPC said that it would be coming.... As I've always said,,,, we'll see what happens..
52. domfonusr (Posts: 372; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
So, now that WPCentral is saying it, you'll believe it? You are funny, rodney.
5. corporateJP (Posts: 2023; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Funny what gets green-lighted for production once Elop is gone...
9. Beijendorf (Posts: 327; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Devices are usually in planning for 2 years and in development for 1 year. So as little love as I hold for Elops, I'm afraid we can't accuse him of blocking this.
13. Liveitup (Posts: 1665; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
It's doubtful going forward that Microsoft will release any Android devices, this was most likely a decision by Risto Siilasmaa
or others close to him before the deal becomes final.
The future Microsoft/Nokia getting involved in Android is a bad for many reasons as I showed previously, various Android OEM's are falling on hard times look at HTC for eg.
WP has a very bright future it sold tens of Millions more devices than it did in 2012, making it the fastest growing OS in the world, no need for forked versions.
Besides Elop is not gone at least not once the deal is completed he will rejoin Microsoft as the head of the devices team in charge of Surface, Windows Phone including ( Nokia Lumias soon to be Lumias), and Xbox according to The Verge.
He is a brilliant man despite what many has said, if you look at the actual facts that much is clear.
22. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2022; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Can you let me in on how Elop is brilliant? He took over a sinking ship and didn't improve the situation, to the point that they ended up being bought out by his former employer. And I seriously doubt if that was the plan all along that he came up with it. It's not even a new plan, it's been done for years. He would be what is called a corporate mole or plant, who's function is to force the company's business revenue downhill making them ripe for takeover.
32. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yeah, MS making a Android device?? That's not likely....
7. hboy857 (Posts: 256; Member since: 03 Jun 2013)
What's the point of android phone if you can't access Google Play and enjoy it's vast amount of apps.
10. Beijendorf (Posts: 327; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
Rooting. The nations where Asha are popular are usually full of ingenuity and solutions requiring no hefty credit card. It even comes with microSD support to make rooting easier!
20. Jason78 (Posts: 95; Member since: 10 Apr 2013)
This is a replacement for Nokia's S40 OS that they use on their Asha feature phones. Instead of trying to further develop S40 to work better with touchscreen devices, they are simply switching to a forked version of Android. Just like Amazon's forked version of android on the Kindle, you won't see any reference to android anywhere. To the user this is Nokia's new Asha OS.
24. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2022; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
IMO, Nokia build quality. Otherwise it's no better than buying a no name brand Android device that has their own app "library" as they call it. I mean the ones like Kryos or Next (or Verizon's Ellipsis), they have subpar build quality and lower end components. The problem is when people buy them and have a bad experience with Android, they have no one to blame but themselves. It's the no name devices like that that give Android a bad name. There are low priced alternatives that still give you a great experience, like the Nexus series.
33. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
You can use the other million apps available...
11. KingDingaLing (Posts: 324; Member since: 11 Oct 2013)
Too bad it's not on something like the 1520. I checked one out at the AT&T store this weekend while getting my wife a new phone. Probably wouldn't take me away from my Note 3 but sill a nice looking phone.
34. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Since I got my 1520 3 people here at work have become very interested in it, and are considering getting one.. It's a cool device!
23. hulk_14 (Posts: 47; Member since: 14 Dec 2013)
Those who believe that nokia will realease this phone are pathetic fools.
There is no reason for nokia to do this now, there is no reason for customer to buy this crap phone which would be dead in day of its release, which would lag more than average lagdroid, which would have "few" apps in the "store".
37. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
There's about a 95% chance this device is coming out... That's pretty high...
28. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1190; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I have no doubt Microsoft has already spoken to Nokia about this smartphone and may allow it's sale. Folks do not be shocked that Microsoft allows this device to go on sale. Microsoft is a devices and Services Company and will sell a variety of devices to the Public. This is the year Microsoft will give Apple iphones and Android smart phones MS Office. maybe Microsoft would rather have it on their Nokia brand of Android first. Microsoft's New CEO and Bill Gates his New Technology advisor will point Microsoft in a new direction. Microsoft has worked with OPEN source LINUX projects and since Android is a version of LINUX for mobile devices Microsoft may work with it also through it's Nokia forked version of Android. Since this "Normandy" smart phone uses a version of Android Hackers will easily convert it to run Standard Android apps. Microso0ft will test the Android waters through the Normandy smart phone by letting it's Nokia personnel do the work. if all goes well their will be a MS Android smart phone as well as Windows 8.1 smart phones believe it or not
38. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I really don't think this has anything to do with MS at all... This is something that Nokia had to put on hold because of the deal with MS, and now,, soon, Nokia can do as they please.... This will be a Nokia branded device, and is seriously niche...
29. xq10xa (Posts: 169; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
I hope this CEO just kills Windows phone 8. They should either revamp it completely or make a custom Nokia / Microsoft / Android phone. Microsoft already lost...pretty much. They just need to strategize and rethink. I believe they need Android.
39. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3562; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
If so many people like WP then why would you hope that MS kills it... Sounds pretty selfish on your part, and un insightful... Plus, it's just not gonna happen...
49. xq10xa (Posts: 169; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
I really don't understand how that is "selfish" on my part. Not many people like it compared to the open market. If you were working there and your job depended on it you would want the best strategy with the most income coming in. Same if you were an investor. "Un insightful" is not a word.
41. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2058; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Yeah I think Android is the most important thing Nokia/MS need right now. I mean just look at HTC, Sony & LG. They're selling millions of Androids and their profits are just increasing every quarter. And Motorola is the best. They earned so much profit by selling Android phones that they said "We cant take this anymore" and sold their company twice.
42. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2022; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
And WP was such a boon for Nokia that they had to sell their handset division. The only 2 OEMs making real money on smart phones are Apple and Samsung, and Samsung is down a bit as well.
43. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2058; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Whatever the size of the user bace, Nokia is ruling WP. Can you say the same about HTC, Sony or LG? I don't hate any of these companies, infact Sony is one of my favs. But facts are facts. Apart from Samsung, which other OEM is profitable adopting Android? So how can any one of you be sure that Nokia/MS will succeed with adopting Android?
46. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2022; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Did I not say the exact same thing in what I wrote? I already said that Samsung and Apple were the only OEMs making real money on smart phones. So you're arguing against me with my own argument? Did not see that coming.
So Nokia has the highest sales of WP. That's like being the smartest kid with down syndrome. Woohoo!
50. xq10xa (Posts: 169; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
Nokia is ruling it because HTC, Sony, or LG are not making windows phones right now. HTC 8X and Samsung Ativ were jokes. Nothing compared to the 1020 or 1520. MS is pushing Nokia. I am all for the underdog. I have a 1020...but I just can't use windows phone 8 compared to Android. My HTC One and Moto X are night and day. WP8 just feels a bit odd. Their Xbox music is what I really loved. However lately it's just too laggy. Google Play for music at $10 a month just pwns Xbox music. Since they lost that I just can't go back to the 1020. Except for pictures at concerts.
44. Andrewtst (Posts: 390; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Nokia out such Android phone is waiting to dead.
Nokia lead decision maker really something wrong.
47. abenjamin765 (Posts: 3; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
I would buy the sh** out of this phone.
48. Avenger337 (Posts: 59; Member since: 14 Apr 2013)
It is a phone that goes straight wing low range but can be of interest to those looking for a simple and basic smartphone. Hopefully in the future we will see some high-end phones with android developed by Nokia.
51. xq10xa (Posts: 169; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
Very true. I think people would lean more towards an Android Nokia phone rather than a Nokia with WP8. I think this is foreshadowing into the future. Hopefully they go with Android or just dump the current windows platform and completely remake it. I have used WP since WP7 to WP8. From a Samsung Flash or Focus to the 1020 and 1520 and everything in between. It just doesn't cut it. Let's face it.....buyers want a good looking operating system. You can say all day long that it's about peoples preferences but cmon...the reality is Apple and Android look similar and are pwning the world right now. They are the top of the food chain and are the standard.
53. domfonusr (Posts: 372; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
I doubt that Nokia will ever put Android on a high-end phone. By all accounts, the Normandy appears to be an Asha series redirect, and so it looks like tihis is something that will be going on low-end Asha handsets into the future, possibly. It makes the most sense that way... Windows Phone on the higher-end handsets for the developed markets in the US and Europe (Lumia series), and their Android fork on the lower-end handsets for the emerging and developing markets (Asha series). There may be some crossover in some places, but the US won't be one of those places.