WSJ: Google speeding up development of Siri-type personal assistant for Android
0. phoneArena 19 Jun 2012, 10:24 posted on
A story in Tuesday's Wall Street Journal discussing the smartphone eco-system ends with a few comments about the voice of iOS, Siri; according to the report, Google is looking to develop more than just a knock-off of Apple's virtual personal assistant...
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44. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
When did anyone from Ple say anything above 3.5 was a fail?
Love how fandroid spread misinformation constantly.
42. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Haha stylus' have been around forever so it's definitely not a copy of the note
Navigation was around way before android
Larger screen? Really?! You honestly feel that's innovation? I guess Apple crushed it with the iPad since it had a 9.7" screen.
46. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
yeah because you could totally use pressure sensible stylus before the note, and your phone would use only the stylus even if you touch the device screen with your hands
trolls will troll
87. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Nokia had it before the Note
igonrants wil be ignorants
109. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
sorry, I'm trolling a troll.. cant you see? :)
also can you provide the nokia device with both features? and actually useful? according by fanboy standard if the phone sold way less than the note its a void... seems to be working with the iPhone so far
56. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Ha. Touchscreen smartphone was around long before iPhone. Samsung is not a copy.
Don't you just hate it when your own logic damns your arguments.
66. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 209; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)
a stylus is a copy of a pen.
"navigation" is a copy of paper maps and cartographers dating back thousands of years.
larger screen? are you uncomfortable with the size of your screen? A lot of women probably dig that on a mans phone.
34. ph00ny (Posts: 751; Member since: 26 May 2011)
S-Voice isn't a redressed vlingo that was included in the s2 prior to the 4S?
50. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
yes but all of a sudden Vlingo stooped existing and Siri became the only think you could talk to and get things done
37. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 209; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)
why wouldnt they have? they already have had pretty useful voice controls for a few years. It would only make sense that they keep upgrading them as they have been with all their core apps and functions.
101. Quezdagreat (Posts: 428; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
I would like to thank all of the droid bots who replied to my comment. Its nice to see that you guys put some much effort into bashing a cell phone
110. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
well you are posting on an android article in here.... you are the one I see crying
15. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
Ain't google has some kind of voice assistant feature already? I always pushed that mic button on the persistent search bar and there it is.. and it's been there since i first own my desire S, i activated that by long pressing the capacitive search button when i was still running 2.3.5..
17. alterecho (Posts: 1095; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
25. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
20. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I thought Google said that cell phones shouldn't be a personal assistant.
36. OhSo3D (Posts: 39; Member since: 22 Feb 2011)
Well in order to keep up, all companies have to "borrow" ideas from one another to keep a versatile market of capable products. The idea isn't about who copies who, it's about who executes it best.
40. Njayolin (Posts: 3; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
"WSJ: Google speeding up development of Siri-type personal assiatant for Android"
I think you meant "assistant".
43. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Apple is setting the bar again and the rest follow. S voice, Majel etc.
Tim Cook said "Apple doesn't want to be the innovator for the world"
I agree Tim. Why can't these companies come up with something original?
48. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 650; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Then they innovate for who? Martians?
51. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Dude shut up, do you even know what setting the bar means? Buying the creator of Siri tweaking it so it will work on iOS then acting as if it's the greatest thing since sliced bread is one step shy of thinking you're God.
That is not something I would want to be quoted as saying, that Tim Cook cheeky guy. That is just him admitting that Apple doesn't innovate as much as your diehard ifans think, only in your world is whatever Apple does innovative. Then you go show how dumb you actually are but agreeing with a quote which you obviously don't have the mental capacity to understand.
Get your facts straight, Google's Android OS has almost always had voice activated abilities, even on the lowly original G1. You spew so much disgusting nonsense it's incredible that you actually have living organs in there. I usually get a laugh at your blind idiocy because even in the face of facts you still want to win to argument which usually others tend to let you carry on on your own accord. You must not get love at home be enjoy trying to get attention. Carry on as you will probably reply with a thumbs down and then some primitively concocted menagerie of words. Good luck, lol.
53. AlexYouOC (Posts: 53; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Apple set the bar how ?!? By purchasing a product made from another company and marketing it as an idea they came up with ??
Voice Actions on phones are nothing new but now somehow Apple has "set the bar" lmaooo
Swear Apple fanboys are brainwashed smh
99. GENARAL-LEVY (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
And there so stupid dum clueless.
54. Sniggly (Posts: 7285; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The earliest reports on Majel stated that it had been in development for three years.
In other words, for Google to copy Apple with Majel, they would have had to invent a time machine to go back and give the idea to themselves in the past.
Either way Google is more innovative.
Why do you insist in your wrongness?
71. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
means something that existed and made it better.. innovation is not invention.. don't mix those 2 up fandroids...
76. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Then we're in agreement. Google took the mobile OS and made it better. Samsung took the smartphone and made it better. Both innovated.
81. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
agree but you better is not my better.. so we disagree again.. lol
88. GENARAL-LEVY (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Apple never inovated nor revolutionized or evolution anything. They are patent skms.....!
103. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
No, the original iPhone was revolutionary. It wasn't so much anything new, it just worked better and more simply than anything prior.
Since then, however, the iPhone has evolved, slowly. And others shot past it like it was standing still.
115. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
others standing still?... back when the iphone came out there was LG,HTC,Motorola,Nokia,BB, Samsung and 3 years later.. only Samsung and Moto have devices worth considering.. so care to explain your point of view.. hmmm all the companies have recorded loss on the current quarter
52. miggymini (Posts: 15; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
"Google's own Voice Actions also does some of things that Siri does"
PhoneArena I'm sure you miss spoke and meant the other way around. You know being that Voice Actions has been out since Droid One. Let's not rewrite history here.
68. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
when Siri came out last year the fandroids had the audacity to say that Google voice was at Siri level that Siri was just a gimmick.. now on the SGSIII the have been promoting S-voice.. and now this.. for a gimmick I will say it got Android's attention..
69. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
its still a gimmick and Android Voice Actions work quite well. It may not have personality but it works.
70. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
of course Google voice works.. but is the minor leagues. compare to the beta Siri.. don't kid yourself Remix..
75. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
Apple had nothing to do with the creation of siri.
Dont kid yourself chicken head.
78. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i dont have to kid myself. Unlike most iOS users, i still use voice actions regularly after the first few days of having it. lol. the proof is in the longevity. Siri's canned jokes dont beat actual functionality.
79. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
All siri does is feed your question to Wolfram Alpha, and use text to speech to read what it returns. Except in cases where Apple doesn't like the actual answers, then it gets a canned response.
It's what Android has been working on for years, with Majel. Apple knew this, bought up Siri, rushed it out in half-baked beta (Gee, I thought only Android released beta, Apple only released finished product), so they could claim Android was copying them.
It was well known thus was what Androids plans were, and Apple, as always knowing they can't compete with the pace of innovation against a more open ecosystem (just like with PCs and Microsoft), took.a shortcut to set up legal actions. Litigate, not inovate.
80. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
love the backpedaling saying that Siri is worthless when even the all mighty SGSIII used it as on of its selling points.. but whatever..fandroids.. the facts are there..
91. GENARAL-LEVY (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
It never existed on 3gs. So whose copying who.
92. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
It's worthless on the SGSIII, too. It's a novelty. Apple can't even think of anything useful to show it doing in commercials.
95. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
so Samsung used the siri like S-voice as a selling point for their flagship device and you still think is worthless....hmmm this is were your opinion goes one way and facts goes another..
104. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
How is that? I don't set Samsungs advertising campaigns up. I just know I would feel silly conversing with my phone. But, that's only me. Others may think its the bee's knees. That's up to them.
I'm probably getting the SGSIII, only because I want to keep my unlimited plan with Verizon and the RAZR HD won't be out in time. I will most likely just disable s-voice. I have literally no use for it.
Now I think the new feature that checks if you're looking and keeps the screen on, thats innovation worth having (assuming it works right).
105. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I use Siri all the time and it is useful. I'm sure you'll be backpedaling once android releases it's knock off version
116. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
the top 2 phone sellers in the U.S beg to differ.. let see who should we believe. a geek that knows nothing about marketing or phone makers bringing top dollar... hmmm...
83. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
You've got it backwards. Majel has been under development for years. It was named Majel after Majel Roddenberry, who besides being Gene Roddenberry's wife and Nurse Chapel in the original series, was the voice of the interactive computer on the Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager. Because that was google's aim, to make an interactive voice system like the computers on Star Trek.
So, this got Apple's attention. In order to beat Android to market, they bought Siri, integrated it half assed into iOS, then released it in a buggy beta state.
See, apple knew what Android was working on, copied it, and claimed it as their own innovation. Then, will try to sue the folks who came up with the idea originally.
89. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Links? The fact is, there are none. Siri was debuted before Majel ever went into development (That is why it is termed "Google's response to Siri"), and Siri was an app on the iPhone a year before it ever debuted as an integrated service.
As for functionality, Voice Actions, and every other voice program on Android and Windows Phone, is a toy compared to the iOS 5 functionality of Siri, and a joke compared to the iOS 6 version.
94. Sniggly (Posts: 7285; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I don't know about the reason behind the name, but the earliest reports clearly stated Majel had been in development for three years. That was only a couple of months after Siri came out. That means Majel predated Siri's introduction as an app.
Considering Google's work on projects like Glass, do you really think they wouldn't also be working on AI?
112. Hemlocke (unregistered)
The Google X project is an AI project that has existed for a few years (but after Siri was initially developed, which was long before it debuted as an app), but in no way was it aimed at being a smartphone personal assistant. Branching out to the voice-activated PA was only a response to Siri, and I'm sure it will be good, but until we see it, it is all speculation.
90. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
if Apple gets something that already existed and makes it better then it is innovation.. just because they didnt invent the wheel doesnt mean never flat tires are not innovation..
93. AlexYouOC (Posts: 53; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
"if Apple gets something that already existed and makes it better then it is innovation....."
Hmmmm..... If memory serves me correct I think that even Woz himself admitted that Siri went downhill after Apple bought it.
Maybe Woz doesnt know what he's talking about either -__-
96. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well don't know were you are going with this. but lets put it in simple terms for the Android users here.... Siri is innovation as it was marketed as a digital assistant.. call it a gimmick, a worthless app. whatever you want. but the way it was marketed was a success so big that Samsung (surprise surprise) is not marketing the siri like S-Voice... and now we have this article..
"WSJ: Google speeding up development of Siri-type personal assistant for Android" members of the jury I rest my case.. follow me on tweeter and FB
102. tedkord (Posts: 7359; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
And, again, Majel has been in the pipeline for years. Google were talking about it, and its eventual integration into google tv, so you could speak commands to your phone to change channels, etc..prior to siri.
And, its a natural extension of the voice commands that most platforms had for some time. I had voice commands on my old WinMo 6 phone. I could tell it, "text Mike," then dictate the text message.
It's obvious. Even in 1969 they predicted it in Star Trek. The reason Siri is so poorly implemented in iOS 5 is it was rushed out as beta, because Apple knew Android was working on Majel.
I don't claim its not innovation. It's Nuance's innovation, not Apple's. It's just a shame that Apple had to dumb it down, and artificially keep it from some users. Especially those users who had it prior to the 4s, who then had it yanked from their phones.
114. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Again title of the article:
WSJ: Google speeding up development of Siri-type personal assistant for Android
117. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
ted please you even stated is your opinion about Siri....most people like it.. period.. and about Apple releasing the beta version to beat Android..hmmm Android has been puting beta app and features to beat other to the punch... how does it feel to be on the receiving end for a change...
I dont even know why fandroids are even fighting this.. Siri is sucessfull wether you like it or not.. Samsung has the Siri like S-voice and now Android wants it... just admit defeat on this topic..
107. DOGIEFRESH (Posts: 302; Member since: 15 Jul 2009)
We see in again and again, APPLE creates Google follows..........!!!!!
122. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9846; Member since: 14 May 2012)
iOS 6 =Android 1.6.
How do you feel that it took Apple 5 years to play catch up?
108. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
To those who keep saying that Android copied... Please take a look at iOS 6, 6 major functions copied from Android. Case closed. Android or Apple copied, who cares.
My question right now is... what about Silvia for Android... Dead before arrival?