Verizon's version of Samsung Galaxy S III comes with locked bootloader
0. phoneArena 07 Jul 2012, 11:43 posted on
Considering that other variants of the Samsung Galaxy S III are easy to root, fingers are being pointed at Verizon for the locked bootloader that comes with the carrier's version of the Samsung Galaxy S III making it harder, but not impossible, to root...
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1. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5478; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Don't blame Samsung, blame Verizon!
2. StrumerJohn (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 May 2011)
THANK YOU for FINALLY posting my request a day later....!
3. StrumerJohn (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 May 2011)
P.S. Alan, your picture has a caption that is quite the opposite. ^-^ Might wanna fix that!
6. Alan01 (Posts: 185; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)
I was drinking the "uncola" at the time. Thanks!
9. Wildmanfan (Posts: 234; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)
I am going to do that and I did a field test on download speed with my cousin's phone and it was faster than VZW. I'm jumping ship as soon as my contract is up on Sept 1st.
22. Gemmol (Posts: 537; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
why are you getting thumbs down, smh, this is why I say they should remove this thumbs down thing, if someone make an opinion and you like it then thumbs it up, but if not, leave the post alone, it is their opinion and by the way congrats and welcome to AT&T, I live in NY and get service, so do not pay attention to everyone trolling post, AT&T service improved a lot, try a phone out if the service do not work for you then pick a company that do, but I tell you this Tmobile and Verizon do not work in my house
40. k1ng617 (Posts: 246; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
Hey I made that jump back in January and FYI I'm really unhappy with them.
Call reception (here in Boston) is terrible and I regularly completely miss calls and sms's without ANY notifications. Only way I find out is that people keep telling me they called (and on their end it rings completely) or texted and I never saw them on my end. I am running a Galaxy Note so I'm assuming it's not my phone since it's pretty high end.
I was very happy with Verizon call quality and reception and rarely missed anything; however, I was only on their 3G at the time and the data speeds were pretty slow although I had consistent coverage.
I'm hoping to switch to T-Mobile before the end of the year if they open up their 1900mhz band to HSPA+ so I can port my number and my Galaxy Note over.
Just a heads up! Check with friends that have AT&T in your area before you jump ship!
42. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
Good Luck with that! At&t's OneX is also locked, their GS3 made it out untouched but I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket in the future.
44. superguy (Posts: 271; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
HTC seems to want to lock all their bootloaders lately, but they usually provide the unlock thru a website. Sometimes it may take a few months, but they usually come out.
Yes, it sucks more than what Samsung typically does, but it's not a completely locked device like Moto devices are.
47. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Atrix and the Photon have unlocked bootloaders pal. the more popular Motorola phones on Verizon have locked bootloaders because of Verizon which is becoming increasingly evident with this SIII scandal.
5. tedkord (Posts: 4746; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Freaking Verizon. They could screw up a one man funeral.
Hey Verizon, spend less time worrying about locking bootloaders, and more time keeping your network from going down every time you add LTE markets. I couldn't connect for s**t the entire day Thursday, 4G/3G or 1x.
7. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Yeah Verizon has been pissing me off a lot lately... I just moved to a new condo a few months ago where their coverage map shows "strong 3G" and possibly LTE. Too bad I can barely get 1 bar of 3G or make phone calls...
Had Verizon send a tech out and even after they confirmed "marginal service even outdoors" all they will do is tell me to buy a Network Extender. f**king idiots.
39. Ravail (Posts: 181; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)
The same thing applied with AT&T at my grandmother's house.. She called and they sent a tech out to her location, confirmed she had a bad reception location and gave her a network signal booster.. now she has 5 bars of signal constantly.
17. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5757; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Verizon seems to be batting a thousand recently. First they want to charge their customers $5 to pay their bill with a credit card. Then they claim they have the ability to do whatever they want with their wireless spectrum (see the article posted a few days ago about the 1st and 5th amendment claims regarding net neutrality). Now this. Arrogance brings everyone down in the end.
8. steven252000 (Posts: 64; Member since: 10 Feb 2010)
Maybe it's a little thank you from Verizon for all of us who pre-ordered the phone in order to keep our "unlimited" data plan.....
10. Carlitos (Posts: 322; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
It just like u guys blaming Motorola for locking there boot loaders, when all this time has been VZW. Cause the Both Atrix in At&t have unlocked bootloaders.
48. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Exactly.....but facts wont get in the way of haters...haters gonna hate, regardless.
11. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1047; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Verizon sucks. We have so many people here hating on Apple when i see Verizon being just as bad. Good coverage is not enough of an excuse to not hate them.
12. Wildmanfan (Posts: 234; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)
I'm really glad to see there are people out there who can see through the bulls**t with Verizon or as I call them Screwizon. There are idiots out here on these forums who think that Screwizon can do no wrong. They are only #1 because they have the most people on their network and they spend millions on marketing. Doesn't mean they are #1. So yeah, f**k VERIZON!
14. Quezdagreat (Posts: 427; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
I'm not a android user, but what could you do with a unlocked boot loader?
15. tedkord (Posts: 4746; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
It's not that it's locked, it's encrypted. Most bootloaders come locked, but they aren't a real hinderance to development. Encrypted means you need a signature to replace the kernel, etc...that's not easy to get around without the key.
If the devs had full access to the BL, the sky's the limit. ROMs, kernels, skins, different versions of Android. With the limited root access they have so far, they can probably debloat (get rid of the crap Verizon preloads), maybe some limited custom roms. No cusotm kernels.
18. Quezdagreat (Posts: 427; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
Ok thanks for the reply, and thanks to the guys who thumbs down me for asking a question
16. ojdidit84 (Posts: 302; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
Seriously starting to regret moving over to Verizon...
19. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
VZW will start losing customers if they don't start caring more for their client ell. I've always been a fan since I started using their service. At least out here in Phoenix AZ I can always brag about my LTE coverage and reception, but if they keep on changing the way they are I'll soon stop being there advocate.
For their sake they should stop the capitalist imperialism when it comes to their pricing, hidden fees, and F***CKING LOCK BOOTLOADERS .
20. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2973; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Not surprised since the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon is no different which was a huge disappointment.
21. tedkord (Posts: 4746; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Verizon Galaxy Nexus bootloader was not locked down.
27. Gemmol (Posts: 537; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
he meant thishttp://www.phonearena.com/news
and this is google response for the first link i showed uhttp://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/03/google-issues-statement-regarding-cdma-nexus-devices/
25. BattleBrat (Posts: 1071; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I like Verizon's service, I'm VERY happy with my RAZR, But they sure are NAZI's sometimes....
26. DF334 (Posts: 36; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)
Really people? Your really mad because of a Locked bootloader? Did you forget the Gal Nex had a locked bootloader and the found a way past it. Their going to do the same thing for this device. Besides most of the people on Verizon don't care about bootloaders better yet know what it is. This is for mostly the tech savy one's! You mean to tell me that you would actually leave a carrier because of the fact that you can't unlock the phones bootloader?? That almost sounds as stupid as a Verizon customer leaving going to T-Mobile because of reception issues...yeah that stupid. The reason you keep Verizon is for reception not because the bootloader is locked (What??). Realitation (my word) Check. Think about that for a minute!
35. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
The G Nex bootloader is about as wide open as it can get. That phone can be used for development purposes.
Any Nexus bootloader is easily unlocked.
Its the encrypted part that makes things harder on other phones.
29. DF334 (Posts: 36; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)
Here you are guys...just what I told you:
32. tedkord (Posts: 4746; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I've been following that on XDA and Rootzwiki very closely. Yes, they have gotten root access, but the bootloader is still encrypted. That means very limited romming, no custom kernels.
Just ask moto users - their options are very limited compared to others.
36. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Exactly....root and recovery isnt the same as having the bootloader open.
Root and recoveries are almost always gonna be available for most Android phones.
45. superguy (Posts: 271; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
True. Rezound was a PITA device until HTC finally unlocked the bootloader. That was about 3 months after the device shipped. In the meantime, nothing really happened on the phone. We had temp root that inconsistently worked and would be gone after a reboot.
We had some great devs trying their hardest to open it up as much as they could, but there was only so much they could do. When HTC unlocked the bootloader, it allowed for development but it wasn't without challenges. You could get custom kernels and ROMs then, but the kernels were a pain in the butt.
It wasn't until we got S-OFF thanks to the Juoponut team that the device became really fun and things began to flourish.
While yes, the device eventually was blown open, it was hard not be jealous of the GNex users that had what we finally got right out of the box with a simple fastboot command.
Verizon is really getting annoying with this crap.
38. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Honestly...they day we here an Android phone cant be rooted at all.....is the day we start worrying. A locked, encrypted bootloader isnt as bad as some make it.
I went from a Droid 1 to a Droid X1, then RAZR, then had a G Nex for a few weeks....so I now whats its like on both sides of the fence.
30. AngryApplcpCustomer (Posts: 4; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
DF334, the bootloader was locked but not encrypted. Encrypted bootloaders have been known to be unlockable by hacking as far as smartphoneones go. It can be rooted, however it will be limited.
33. iblackdroid (Posts: 67; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
Can somebody please explain to me what a bootloader is and what difference it makes whether it is locked or not? Thanks much appreciated
34. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
who effin cares...people find the dumbest reasons to not like something. be happy that they got the phone at all. "oh, I can't root this phone? well Im switching carriers then." the embodiment of stupidity. just when you think the complaints couldn't get any more ridiculous...
41. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
Verizon sucks elephant balls all day long. I am glad I kicked them to the curb for Tmobile. At least now I get pure 4g coverage in a 4g market and my reception is legendary. Verizon couldn't accomplish this feat on my Galaxy Nexus so they got dumped. Tmobile and it's 42mpbs make Verizon LTE network look like horse bleep..
43. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Since for the most part Rezound and RAZR owners had less reception issues....ever think it was your phone? I know Verizon LTE is having growing pains...but still.
But...if T Mo really is better for you....you made the right choice. Ppl need to stop chassing phones and start chasing carriers that offer better service. AT&T might be better than Verizon in my area.
46. superguy (Posts: 271; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
Agreed. I've owned both a GNex and a Rezound and the Rezound got far better reception than the GNex. What really convinced me that the GNex's reception sucked was when I was sitting in a building with my friend. My GNex had no data signal - I could sorta make a call and get text but that was it. She was on an old Incredible and had a fine 3G signal. She was surfing with no problem. So there I was with a brand new phone and no data and she was just fine on a 2 year old phone.
Dumped the GNex the next day and went back to my Rezound. Problem solved. :)
49. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
Yes sir I have chased phone forever now it has to be about carriers and actual service. I know the footprint of tmobile is weak compared to Verizon we all know that. But I am just shocked that I can use my Galaxy S3 in ways that I couldn't use my Galaxy Nexus. In New York City Tmobile is great I don't know why but I am happy and will be staying with tmobile period. Plus I can purchase a true NEXUS from the Google Play store come November and that will replace my lost Galaxy Nexus from Verizon. But I have a funny feeling I will be getting the Galaxy Note 2 before the year is out...