Verizon version of Samsung Galaxy S IV may have hit benchmark site, shows 1.9GHz processor
called for the return of a PowerVR GPU for the next version of Samsung's flagship Android phone. The latest information has the eagerly awaited device getting introduced at a event on March 15th and rolled out the next month in Europe. That would match the launch of the current flagship which also was launched first in Europe before eventually getting released in the U.S.
The launch of the Samsung Galaxy S IV is becoming an event similar to the annual introduction of the new Apple iPhone where leaked pictures are scrutinized and rumors and speculation become the order of the day.
source: BRM (translated) via Slashgear
1. hung2900 (Posts: 769; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Quad-oere Snapdragon S600???
sammy is well-nown abt leaking fake information, maybe this one is not true
2. apple.com (Posts: 3; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
yeah right its just a oc of the pro that everyone else is using. But I bet all the fandroid will still say it's the greatest thing ever. lmao... the Iphone will beat hands down.
3. abdane (Posts: 474; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
the iPhone will beat hands down ? LOL
iPhone 4S couldn't beat the GS2 ! iPhone 5 couldn't beat GS3, and i dont think iPhone 5S will beat the GS4 ;)
4. apple.com (Posts: 3; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
don't know what cave you've recently crawled out of but every iteration of the iphone is smoother and far superior to the samsung copycat counterpart. Anyway the iphone will come with rouge gpu and new cores based on real a15 not qualcomm pos especially old pos
6. tedkord (Posts: 4282; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Wrong and wrong. Besides having fewer features and less functionality, the iPhone no longer has the advantage in smoothness. Not since ICS.
26. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5534; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
But hey - iOS UI is the best for its unending consistency.... Same today as it was back in 2007. /sarcasm
7. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
You need to check sgs3 VS i5,sgn2 vs i5 reviews.
BTW the gpu is Rogue.
8. jove39 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Probably you are living in similar cave...Apple has ditched A15 altogether and went with custom implementation just like qualcomm...you know Apple copied qualcomm here!
9. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
You mean based on real A15 like the A6, oh wait....
You mean a rogue GPU with all the cores removed and under clocked for the puny battery? Don't kid yourself fan boy. The S4 pro would smoke the A6 if it used IOS, safari, and a 4 inch screen below 720p.
Don't believe me? The only benchmark iPhone 5 is good at is browser mark and that is because of Safari. Run browser mark using chrome on both the Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 and you will see the Nexus 4 smoke it without the Safari browser crutch it needs to win benchmarks. Lol
31. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 159; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
I don't like Apple and the iPhone, but nothing can beat the SGX543MP3 inside of it, not even the Adreno 320. And guess what, that beast of a GPU is running on a puny battery as you say and kills your Nexus 4. Rogue will be much more powerful and battery efficient.
41. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
You fell for the Apple/Anandtech marketing hype? When all they run benchmarks on is the GPU and the Safari browser, compared to slow ass Chrome, then it is easy to get fooled.
You are forgetting one important thing and probably the most important piece in our smartphones. The SOC. The A6 has a dual core between A9 and A15 soc clocked at 1.3 ghz(clocked low for guess what? The Puny battery and the the software that is stripped of multi tasking and other features that it optimized for the puny battery.
The Nexus 4 has a quad core that is between A9 and A15. You do the math there or let geekbench do it for you. My Nexus 4, as you put it, kills the current iphone and probably will beat the under clocked A7 in the iphone 5s.
46. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3881; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Oh yeah, that's why in almost every graphics test the Adreno 320 scores right up next to the SGX543MP3, and on off screen tests when resolution isn't holding the Adreno 320 back, it outperforms the PowerVR.
The only tests where it doesn't get beaten by the Adreno 320 is when you're testing it against the Nexus 4 which is affected by thermal throttling, and doesn't get scores nearly as high as they should be.
Currently, the only GPU that beats the Adreno 320 is the Mali-T604 and the PowerVR SGX554MP4, Adreno 330 will fix that though. I'm sure Rogue will be beastly, but what's the use of having such a great GPU if you don't have anything of your phone/tablet to take full advantage of it?
40. Dr.Phil (Posts: 864; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Perhaps this means you should look towards the Note III to be the real beast of a phone for this year. I would imagine it would be that device that might showcase the Exynos Octa processor if this one doesn't.
10. apple.com (Posts: 3; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
sigh... all of these fandroid comments and they still won't accept that the s4 will be using old tech that will guarantee to be beaten by the new iphone as it never uses old hardware. Just like the s3 that was all a9 cores and the gpu was the same old mali 400. LMAO again.
12. jove39 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
S3 is old phone now...and you don't need to remind us how fast PowerVR gpus are...Apple has always emphasized more on gpu power than...cpu...you can't name a single apple soc that has more cpu power than same gen Exynos soc...for gpu...its been always other way around.
16. SkOne (Posts: 87; Member since: 02 May 2012)
sigh- why do you even waste your time with this bozo?
18. okokpeople (Posts: 3; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
and why did you post at all since you obviously have nothing intelligent to say besides BOZO LMAO AT YOU
11. jove39 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Now back to actual topic -
Even if Samsung uses qualcomm soc in gs4...then how it is wrong? krait is more powerful than A9 and efficient than A15...Samsung had to compromise somewhere...and adreno 320 is powmerful enough to drive 1080p display...also sasung may push qualcomm to use ddr3-800mhz ram for better data bandwidth.
Exynos5...undoubtly fast than any other soc...is also more power hungry and perhaps expensive...so I won't mind samsung moving to qualcomm for smartphones and use Exynos only on high-end tablets!
13. okokpeople (Posts: 3; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
ok see its people like you that basically allowed samsung to put the same a9 and mali in the s3 and also the crappy crapdragon dual core with adreno 225 in the US. so if you like specs like that than go on ahead an buy last years tech as their cheaper anyway. But were here talking about new and better things and unlike you we don't like moving backwards.
15. jove39 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
you think using krait cores with adreno320 and ddr3-800 ram is moving backwards?
17. okokpeople (Posts: 3; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
ram aside the adreno 320 was used in the optimus g debuted last year. Also the s4 pro was not really all that efficient in power. The s4 is supposed to be the greatest android phone aside from the note 3 that is coming out this year so yes using the adreno and the s4 soc is moving backwards. If I wanted that---sprint had a bogo not that long ago for the optimus.
22. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Unfortunately for your lover Apple, it won't use a S4 pro cpu. It might use the Qualcomm 600 though, which will still be better than anything Apple comes out with.
25. jove39 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
None of last year phones have been able to use apq8064 upto potential due to thermal constraints...if you read anandtech...they did two test on soc...one with cooling it in freezer!
my one x with msm8960 can easily score similar to nexus4 with alsmost double power
48. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
I have an Optimus G with the S4 Pro. And I owned the same One X that you have on AT&T right before I upgraded to this. The difference in performance is noticeable.
The only time benchmark performance wanes through throttling is when I run multiple graphics benchmarks back to back. Antutu scores are constantly above 20K and reach 22.5K sometimes. And to tell you the truth; the One X gets warmer during everyday use and benchmarks than the Optimus G does.
32. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 159; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
He thinks he's making full use of that SoC watching porn on XVIDEOS.
23. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Yes the four A9's and old mali gpu that allows it to still outperform the iphone 5 that was released months later. Also, that crapdragon is pretty much the same as what the A6 is, somewhere in between an A9 and an A15.
33. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 159; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
How does the Mali outperform the SGX543MP3? Please elaborate.
42. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
It is called a combination. You know. Simple math such as 4 highly clocked A9s + super overclocked mali + huge battery to power it all >>>>> 2 low clocked A9/A15 hybrids + severely under clocked power VR with two cores removed + puny battery that forces everything to thermal throttle really low.
You know, simple math. Or simple English if you would actually read my posts before replying to realize that I wasn't talking strictly about the GPU but the overall performance. Of course, judging from your reaction you probably think that the power VR vs the Mali is the only thing that matters.
27. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5534; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Octacore big.little chipset will make it to the Note III. That plus KLP will have Apple filing suit over lost sales yet again. Nothing like whining when they could be innovating.
14. gallitoking (Posts: 4680; Member since: 17 May 2011)
It doesn't matter how good the S4 might be... Verizon will ruin it..
35. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3881; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
With giant Verizon and LTE logos, and delaying updates for months...
19. nikenturd (unregistered)
Im not buying the S4 Verizon without the iconic 'Verizon' logo plastered on the home button
20. TheCynicalTechie (Posts: 59; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
I hope to see more high-end phones with a Intel Atom Clover Trail+ processor other than the Lenovo Ideaphonme K900. Can't wait to see more phones and tablets with Bay Trail processors though.
21. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I cannot believe Samsung could go for Snapdragon for the S4.
It would be handing out the greatest chip business out there to the direct competitor of Samsung semiconductor division!
My bet is they will use it for U.S. versions only
29. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7370; Member since: 14 May 2012)
So by coming into the article and leaving a comment that has NOTHING to so with the article doesn't make you pathetic?
Please stop while you're ahead.
30. tedkord (Posts: 4282; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Nope, we're just not butthurt. Unlike iFans, we have nothing to be butthurt over.
34. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
Apple iphones are for dopes. Ha ha ha had to do it.
36. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
I don’t know what device it is, but I bet that it’s not the S4.Samsung has developed a super ultra mega Chip like the Exynos Octa and the new flagship will get a standard Dual Core SoC from Qualcomm which has been used in several Smartphones like HTC’s One S or the Qualcomm Version of the Galaxy S3 for a year now?Oh and by the way: Qualcomms MSM8960 doesn’t even have an Adreno 320. Either it is a MSM8960T (or another Chip) or it’s got an Adreno 225.Looking at the Results the GPU got it should be an Adreno 320, but then it can’t be a MSM 8960.So the data from GLBenchmark is false anyway. I call B.S. on this one Samsung ain't using no snapdragon on the Galaxy S4.
38. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3881; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
It's probably the Snapdragon 600 since it's clocked at 1.9 GHz.
39. CreeDiddy (Posts: 220; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)
Well the phone experience of the S4 should be very good. The benchmarks of this phone will lag behind the iPhone 5S in terms of GPU performance. The A6X chip was the one to beat, however, the Adreno 320 is no match for the PowerVR SGX 554.
This will mean that the 5S will be the upgrade for this year for Apple with the A7. Again Apple isn't threatened by performance with the release of the Snapdragon or Qualcom processor with Adreno GPU.
43. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
In terms of GPU performance is the key word here. In terms of every other performance, Apple isn't threatened, they know that they are already beat. Also, Apple software and their under 720 p resolution screen had reached diminishing returns a LONG, LONG, LONG time ago. You simply do not need to put a rogue GPU in the iphone 6, maybe the ipad 5/mini 2 but not the 6. Don't be shocked if they take the profit margins of reusing the iphone 5 gpu instead of including the rogue GPU.
The iphone 5s GPU performance won't reach the A6X either. Funny how you conveniently forget that the iphone 5 with two less GPU cores comes nowhere close to the A6X and neither will the iphone 5s.
44. Taters (Posts: 2592; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Here is a link that shows how all the current GPUs compare.
Notice how even the older A5X and definitely the Andreno 320 beat the iphone 5's under clocked with two cores removed GPU in the off screen tests? Using the A6X to represent the A7 in the next iphone is ludicrous, there are HUGE differences in power. the A6X slaughters the under clocked A6, stop talking about them like they are the same.
The only reason the iphone 5 GPU benches so high is because the screen resolution is below 720p and the software is highly optimized for GPU benchmarks.