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1. oo7jbondistm (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 May 2010)
Who cares im sure there a bunch of Iphone fanboys that will jump on here say verizon is stupid for not picking up the iphone. But seriously I have had the Iphone ive had blacberrys and now have a droid. The droid has made the Iphone irrelevant for verizon and that is why verizon is in no rush to get it. Anyone that can name one thing that the iphone does better then the droid then they havent done their research or havent used a droid. The droid Multitasks and i can text or surf the web while in a phone call when necessary. Oh and a little application called isyncr for 2.99 in the market allows me to use my itunes and full playlists.
2. artz1986 (Posts: 453; Member since: 11 Mar 2009)
3. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Thanks for adding that bit at the end about an app in the Android market that allows you to sync Android with Mac applications. Thateas always one of my hold-outs for Android but if that's the case, then Android has just become much more of an appealing option for me.
5. bartoolz (Posts: 7; Member since: 23 Apr 2009)
I am a huge Android fan. I currently own the HTC Incredible (after upgrading from the Motorola Droid), and love it. But I will give the iphone props on one thing and one thing only... the facebook app. Currently, the facebook apps (all of them) for the android leave a little bit to be desired. They each have certain parts they excel at, but there isn't one that does it all. I have faith though that someone (preferably FACEBOOK) will fix that. :) Android FTW!!!
6. BlackberryUser (Posts: 609; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
Just to be clear, you can only surf and talk if you are surfing over a wifi network.
9. Miacol (Posts: 40; Member since: 10 Oct 2008)
The three major problems I have with Android right now is 1. correcting text, if i write a paragraph, I can click on the word I need to correct but it's not as smooth as the iPhone where I get the magnifying glass and can get to the exact letter. Is there an easier way to handle this, if so please let me know. 2. The browser, I don't really like Chrome it doesn't work for me like I function. Would anyone on the forums know if there are other browsers for the Android Market Place that are better? and my 3. Is that all the good Android phones are on VZW and Sprint and I don't really want to be limited by these carriers. I travel allot and like to use my phone over seas, does anyone know what Android phone on ATT or T-Mobile compares to the Incredible and please don't tell me the Nexus one....
11. ace1122 (Posts: 237; Member since: 23 Mar 2009)
What about the HTC HD2? I hear its pretty good.
12. gdjsnyder (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2009)
"Anyone that can name one thing that the iphone does better then the droid then they havent done their research or havent used a droid." Eh, well I've owned three droids, the first two had to be returned due to defects with the phone. The third got sold on eBay. So I got the owned part covered. And I would account 3-4 hours of my day researching technology and such, so I think I have the research part covered, and I can name a bunch of things the iPhone does better. But I'll start with a simple one. One thing the iPhone does better than the Droid- sell. Plain and simple. How many iPhones have been sold? How many Droids? iPhone wins, hands down. And also, to be the little prick I am, I really don't believe Apple ever made an Iphone. I know they made an iPhone, but I didn't hear the news on the new Iphone?
17. gambino37 (Posts: 146; Member since: 16 Oct 2009)
You are kidding with the p/P thing right? WOW. And as far as selling how long as the iPhone been out compared to the droid? Hardly a valid argument. Do some MORE research.
18. ecml (Posts: 129; Member since: 23 Mar 2010)
Well the reason the iPhone have more sells than the Droid is because it's been in the market years before the droid. @gdjsnyder
19. Windsponge (Posts: 92; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)
Sorry last quarter iPhone way out sold Droid..Not even Close.I am using Droid so I am not biased.
21. supadave (Posts: 12; Member since: 26 Mar 2010)
3 Defective Droids= User Error sorry but I'm serious you probably downloaded a faulty or incompatible app or damaged the device(s).
25. Russki (Posts: 45; Member since: 26 Dec 2009)
27. E.N. (Posts: 2584; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
To Ecml and gambino37, I bet more people are buying the year old iPhone 3GS today than are buying the newer 7th month old Droid. (well maybe not today since its so close to the announcement of the new iphone) Or to make it simpler for you guys to understand, the iPhone 3GS sold more in it's first 5 months than the Droid did in it's first 5 months. I think that's what gdjnsyder was trying to say. He wasn't comparing the iPhone sales since 2007 with the Droid's sales since the end of 2009. To oo7jbondistm, Its really the Verison users that are begging for the iPhone. Many people on AT&T really don't care. If Verizon does get the iPhone, I'll probably move to Verizon. But until then, who cares. I think that's the attitude a lot of AT&T users who jumped from Verizon for the iPhone share.
30. gdjsnyder (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2009)
No, I am not kidding with the p/P thing, or the i/I thing either. Some people take that very seriously, i am one of them. I don't need to do more research. I didn't say take ALL 3 years the iPhone has been available times the droids availability now. Just look at the original iPhone v. Droid, iPhone 3G v. Droid, iPhone 3GS v. Droid sales. You will then see that each iPhone has outsold the droid. How long did it take Motorola to sell it's 1,000,000 Droid? I believe the iPhone 3G sold it's 1,000,000 sometimes around July 11th, it's release date.
31. gdjsnyder (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2009)
I'm talking about each iPhone, not all three of them together. Moron.
32. gdjsnyder (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2009)
I'm using a blackbery, so I am not biased either, so I hope no one gets that impression.
33. gdjsnyder (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2009)
Nope. Verizon admitted fault both times. The 3G antenna in one was broken and in another they were dead pixels and the like. Both hardware defects. So don't blame me that your precious phone CAN have faults not caused by it's users. Because it does.
34. gdjsnyder (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Nov 2009)
Thank you, E.N. That was my point all along. I appreciate that not all PhoneArena posters aren't so consumed with hate against Apple and love for their Androids.
35. BlackberryUser (Posts: 609; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
I found I like Dolphin a lot better, because it allows you to exit.
37. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
gdjsnyder, you said... "I can name a bunch of things the iPhone does better." All you've said was that it sold more- so please, enlighten us with this large list of what the iphone can do better than the droid incredible
47. E.N. (Posts: 2584; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Do you really want to hear another list? I mean I could just as easily provide a list but I and many other iPhone users have done that so many times in the past, that no matter what I write, it won't change anyone's opinion. You're going to like your Droid Incredible better no matter what anyone says. But if you still want a full list, I suggest waiting until tomorrow.
51. supadave (Posts: 12; Member since: 26 Mar 2010)
You probably got a rep that didn't feel like troubleshooting the alleged faulty antenna issue. Dude all I'm saying is I've maybe replaced 4 Moto Droids since launch and I'm in tech support.
60. plyfulgentleman (Posts: 43; Member since: 17 Jul 2008)
EN are you serious! People who actually own a Iphone 3gs will will pay to have 1.3 MP cam in front of the phone to have video conferencing. Wow that's mind boggling, if dats the only reason why iphone users reason to buy go for it. That's just not smart at all. Why? Well tell us why would you buy it EN?
65. core628 (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 May 2010)
you have to compare with the records of the first gen of the iphone cuz the droid it is the first one for verizon and motorola and in that sense droid did beat the iphone on the first gen's...
68. tuminatr (Posts: 742; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)
personally I think its all about marketing, the IPhone is better known, but for the last six months android has been outselling apple here in the USA. Personally I have played with both devices and they have advantages and disadvantages. I believe apple will loose this fight its simply a numbers game Verizon has 5 droids sprint has 3 and Tmboile had 5 heck even att has one. and those numbers are growing. Droid will win
71. metalpoet (unregistered)
I am a verizon customer and have been since 2000. If verizon doesnt get the iphone by the time my upgrade comes up in 2011 then i will unfortunatly be forced to switch to att(although i hate to say that cuz there signal sux where i live and i use to work for verizon) but they have the iphone. Hands down the iphone seems to have something that everybody craves. ive played and researched with many types of windows, android, and iphones and iphone seems to be the best for me.
4. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
"Of course, the next question is, just how long in time is the immediate future?" Stop reading between lines that don't exist!
7. BlackberryUser (Posts: 609; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
I think that's a very valid question. Most advertising requires "reading between lines".
23. Kiltlifter (Posts: 742; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Nah... stupid people have been proclaiming the second coming of Jesus since 900AD as the "immediate future". When was the last time you saw the reincarnation of the Christian son of God? I think Verizon should stuff it Apple and never support a single Apple product forever. Eventually with no support and poor service whyPhone users will defect when they get bored of the device and realize that apple low specs the device on purpose to release a slightly better model every year. 2G>3G (tiny upgrades and 3g support), why becuase they knew that people would buy the 3G one again. 3G>3GS (it finally does video, something phones have been able to do since 2002), 3Gs-4G (we changed the design so now people with 3G/S will look like iTools and follow the iSheep to the iStore to blow their iMoney and hand their iLife over to their self appointed dictator: Steve Jobs... I guess if you talked to a Mac-tavist lately they would tell you that the second coming of Jesus is Steve Jobs. So maybe we will see a whyPhone on VZW, but I hope that it never comes. I also wish Microsoft, Adobe, and Google stop supporting mac with any of their software to let Mac squirm. Here's hoping ChromoOS is a huge success so there is another worthwile OS for a desktop computer besides Windows.
24. E.N. (Posts: 2584; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Yes, you should pray everyday that it doesn't come to Verizon because if it does, then I honestly don't know what will happen to the Droid series. Since the launch of iPhone, people have been asking when the iPhone would appear in Verizon. But when the G1 launched on t-mobile, not many cared. and I can say that because I was on Verizon during that time. And stop freaking obsessing over the iPhone, honestly. It seems like you just can't hold in your excitement. The Apple conference is only two days away. Can't you hold your excitement in for just a little longer? But I know how you feel cause I'm excited too. But Monday probably comes, you can do all the iPhone obsessing/hating that you want. But really, if Steve Jobs controls anyone, it's the iPhone haters. I mean you guys really go out your way to bash the iPhone. Just read BrokenImaege's comment and see if you dont get freaked out just a little. I bet most of the Andrlid users (especially the EVO users) will be tuning in to Engadget, Phonearena, Apple.com, or any other source to get more info. Haha, you guys will probably find out information before I do. That's how obsessed I think some of you guys are.
38. lovebuzz (Posts: 76; Member since: 21 Oct 2009)
No it's not Blackberry. It's not advertising, it's hype. There are no lines and he said exactly what he meant. People need to get over this already.
40. BlackberryUser (Posts: 609; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
I didn't say it was advertising, I just used advertising as an example. He is playing a political game to direct customers the way he feels will drive more sales for Verizon. That said, I think the iPhone WILL eventually come to Verizon, because there are loyal followers. Although it may take 10 years to happen. My statement was really just that reading between the lines is necessary to get a full picture. When a politician tells you something, do you take it for face value? Any company rep is a politician for their company.
43. lovebuzz (Posts: 76; Member since: 21 Oct 2009)
Why do i get the feeling that when you say "You" you're actually referring to yourself? HAHA you are so transparent.
48. E.N. (Posts: 2584; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
??? Umm, I don't understand what you're trying to say. When I said "you" I was referring to Kiltlifter. When I said "I", I was talking about myself. I think you're referring to the part when I said " Can't you hold your excitement in for just a little longer?" I said that because obviously he is excited for the conference tomorrow. I mean look how ansy his comment was. I'm excited to see the new features that will be offered. He's excited/eager to try to prove his point about how all the new iphone's have minor updates. So in the end, we will both be watching Apple tomorrow. That was the point I was trying to make.
52. Kiltlifter (Posts: 742; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
@ E.N. In a way I could say you are right. I do obsess a little about technology becuase I am excited at the way things are going. I honoestly think that Apple Corporation holds the advancement of technology back and uses psychographical information to trap their iSheeple into giving their life freely to Apple products. Don't ge me wrong I also feel taht Google is doing the same thing. But I truly hate Apple fanatics becuase they act like such crying babies about EVERYTHING. I hope steve jobs announces that the iPhone will be released to every single US Carrier tomorrow besides VZW. That way AT&T will start to lose sales, VZW will stay where they are, and Sprint and T-Mo will grow significantly.
61. plyfulgentleman (Posts: 43; Member since: 17 Jul 2008)
Haha its hella funny that u mention the G1 phone. That phone actually works on Tmo edge network(2g) that's why it didn't get as much fanfare as the iphone. Hey look don't get me wrong I just don't like the fact that there's such a choke hold on what u can do on the damn thing. On the 3gs no tethering, which to some of ya people don't care too much for but I do. And everything else has to be done on itunes wow goodluck. I choose android SIMPLY PUT OPEN-SOURCE MEANING NO RESTRICTIONS. Why do u thing AT&T is itching to get more android devices cuz they know wats happening at da end of the year exclusivity and iphone is bye bye. So AT&T is doing the best thing jumping on the band wagon... Android band wagon that is...NUFF SAID
62. plyfulgentleman (Posts: 43; Member since: 17 Jul 2008)
Oops I also forgot to mention flash...oh that's rite flash won't work on iphone...unless people program on html5. I just thought i'd add that formy pal EN...
8. BlackberryUser (Posts: 609; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
Here is my take on this for what it's worth, which is nothing. Why would Verizon stop their customers from buying Android phones for the anticipation of an iPhone? If he said Verizon would have an iPhone soon, customers may choose to wait for the "upcoming" iPhone or at least to compare it. He didn't say they aren't getting it and "immediate future" is left open. At the same point, he'll continue selling a lot of Android phones. I think the Android is a better phone all the way around, but you still have the hardcore iPhone fans that Verizon will eventually serve to when they release an iPhone on their terms. The iPhone on Verizon will still not surf and talk without LTE or Wifi.
22. wade1968 (Posts: 224; Member since: 12 Apr 2010)
if your talking and surfing the web at the same time either you are bored with who your talking to or you are just plain RUDE.
26. Man_of_God (Posts: 32; Member since: 27 Jan 2009)
Or, maybe you are on a conference call and you were just sent a slide deck via email and you need to view it.... Or maybe you holding a training session and you want to illustrate something on the whiteboard app on your smartphone.... Or maybe you have a teenager and you want to verify that they are actually at their friends home and the parents are there, so you call them and have them turn on the video camera and you actually see the parents.... Need I go on??? Don't be limited in your thinking. There are plenty of reasons why voice and data simultaneously can be very productive.
36. BlackberryUser (Posts: 609; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
To continue your argument.. ... you have a teenaager and your running locator to see where they're actually at. ... You have bluetooth and your friend is asking you about meeting at a restaraunt. ... you are on bluetooth discussing what movie to watch tonight. ... you are on bluetooth using your phone for navigation. I've had a few instances where I found having the ability to talk and surf would be convenient. I have AT&T and Verizon, I feel Verizon has a far superior service, but it is a missing feature.
66. core628 (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 May 2010)
talk and surf at the same time??? lol at&t should fix their drop calls and lack of coverage... phone with no servie pretty much an ipod
72. metalpoet (unregistered)
haha i agree!
10. ace1122 (Posts: 237; Member since: 23 Mar 2009)
Verizon is #1 without the iPhone and id take the Incredible or the upcoming Droid Xtreme over the iPhone any day.
73. metalpoet (unregistered)
dont rule out the new lg ally. finally lg decided to step up for verizon in the android market
13. Gowireless (Posts: 85; Member since: 23 Feb 2010)
From what i heard Verizon plans to eleminate their CDMA network and instead use VOIP over their LTE network. If this is the case Verizon will be using SIM cards. For customers that want to have a iPhone 4G it seems it would be very possible to unlock the phone on Verizons LTE network.
28. cellgeek82 (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Dec 2009)
Sounds like you have your predictions correct but you're leaving one thing out...this will happen in YEARS time. CDMA will be operational for some time to come, even after 4G is switched on. As for an iPhone 4G, I would imagine that Verizon will eventually get the iPhone but they'll probably have a 4G model. AT&T is so slow about enhancing their network I'd say that Verizon has a better chance in getting a 4G iPhone. Even if AT&T got a 4G iPhone before Verizon it'll suck like the 3G one did. AT&T has horrible data coverage. If Verizon expands their 4G network like they did their 3G network then AT&T has something to worry about. As for unlocking the iPhone, good luck with that. Untill there is LTE across the board you'll run in to network compatibility problems where the first 4G devices will be CDMA/LTE and GSM/LTE. Also, Apple and the carrier the 4G iPhone belongs to will have that thing locked down super tight, be prepared to do some major hacking.
14. BrokenImaege (Posts: 173; Member since: 27 Jul 2009)
Been saying this for how long now????? We don't need the IPhone period. Android is surpassing it everyday. On top of that, no way VZW pays Apple what they want in subsidies. Once Android suceeded on VZW it put Jobs on the losing end of negotiations. They will either play by VZW rules to put it on our network after 2012 or they can keep selling it on a shitty network. Apple has lost and they cost their customer base the best wireless network in the US because of being greedy. Once they put a global device on VZW, its overwith. That's the last step in this game.
15. E.N. (Posts: 2584; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I hate when people get so attatched that they confuse logic with emotion. Your whole comment is a mess. "We don't need the IPhone period." "Android is surpassing it everyday." - huh? Really? Says who? And how many times can you surpass something. Once you surpass something you can't surpass it again. "Once Android suceeded on VZW it put Jobs on the losing end of negotiations." - says who? "They will either play by VZW rules to put it on our network after 2012 or they can keep selling it on a shitty network." - you don't even know of Verizon and AT&T already have an agreement. "Apple has lost" - do you really believe that? "Once they put a global device on VZW, its overwith. That's the last step in this game." - wow
16. theman414 (Posts: 132; Member since: 08 Jun 2009)
Or Apple could just sell the iPhone to every other carrier except for Verizon. Sometimes you Verizonfanboys just say stupid stuff!
20. Windsponge (Posts: 92; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)
You are correct. Truth is buy what you want and don't worry about what some one else wants.
29. cellgeek82 (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Dec 2009)
I'm a Verizon customer and an Android user. I can't say I like the iCult...I mean, iPhone...but I still think that Verizon would do good to get the iPhone. Well, ANY carrier would be ok! Why not see how the iPhone performs on a great network? I think it's a bit unfair and bad business practice to keep it on one carrier. At least Android is on every carrier! Apple seems careless to stay on one carrier, and they seem to be "in love" with AT&T. I could understand being only on AT&T at the start but it's been a while now. C'mon Apple, there are other fish in the sea. Quit sleeping with AT&T, they'll only give you blue balls.
41. BlackberryUser (Posts: 609; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
Although the Android has done an amazing job competing with the iPhone, the iPhone has many more units sold everyday then the Android. The iPhone has the advantage of being out there longer, but if you look at only todays sales it's my understanding that today the iPhone sold more units then all other Android phones combined. I'm glad to see a good contender in the marketplace, but don't write off the iPhone yet. Next... like cellgeek82 said, the iPhone would be beneficial for any carrier as far as sales go. That said there could be unexpected drawbacks like excessive data usage.
46. cc16177 (Posts: 312; Member since: 09 May 2010)
Actually as of Q1 2010 the iPhone only accounted for 23% of smartphone sales and Android was 28%. First time that has happened.... RIM is still the majority though.
53. E.N. (Posts: 2584; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
"Then we get cold hard numbers like these -- showing iPhone OS owning 28 percent of the US smartphone market and closing in on RIM's leading 35 percent -- and we face up to the realization that Android handsets still account for less than one in every ten smartphones owned by Americans today. " - Engadget AT&T sells iPhone 3GS and 3G. AT&T also sells the Android blackflip and (will if not already) the Nexus One Verizon sells the Android Droid, Droid Eris, Droid Incredible, and (will if not already) the Nexus One. T-Mobile sells the myTouch 3G, the Nexus One Sprint sells the Android Hero and the Evo 4G. I think you guys can imagine the point I'm trying to make.
59. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
Sometimes its hard for ppl to let go of the glory years...hard for the original iPhone fans to grasp the concept that the iPhone is no longer the big fish in a small pond. HTC EVO, HD2, Incredible, Droid Extreme comin, Microsoft KIN (lol sike)...everybody has leveled up. Sorry Mr. Jobs, you just another option in the line up now.
63. plyfulgentleman (Posts: 43; Member since: 17 Jul 2008)
I would ac@tually try the iphone for vzw if and when it comes out...jus to see what the fuss is about.
74. metalpoet (unregistered)
verizon has horrible customer service and the prices are crazy! but they have thebest service and they know that. iphone or no iphone. with android in the picture, the iphone and att have serious competition now.