Verizon speeding up process to have LTE in place by early 2010
0. phoneArena posted on 25 Jul 2009, 12:48
TechCrunch's “knowledgeable” source states that Big Red is adamant on fast tracking their LTE deployment in time for early 2010...
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12. Dood posted on 25 Jul 2009, 16:29 0 0
Keep in mind that the information in this article is not official. Razr with an actual razor FTW!!!
14. souleater93 posted on 25 Jul 2009, 16:33 0 0
Verizon shouldn't hurry to be the first one with LTE in the U.S. especially if the technology is not from Vodafone. They've already got other issues that they aren't fixing like their mobile web service and texts from all other carriers. LTE uses sim cards and has a different bandwidth than 3G CDMA/GSM so my question for Verizon is will our phones that aren't LTE compatible work without losing some of our current service? Personally i think Vodafone should just buy the rest of Verizon.
15. WKlingbeil posted on 25 Jul 2009, 17:46 0 0
I second that last sentence for sure, God knows Verizon Communications is a sinking ship... Home telephone service FTW!!!
19. merkeke posted on 25 Jul 2009, 20:13 0 0
souleater93. Verizon doesn't have issues with text messages. all carriers use a 3rd party sybase mobile 360 to get the text messages delivered. If someone does a port in that's why the text messages may not work for 72 hours. the number has to be loaded back into mobile 360 with the correct carrier. (you still receive text messages on the old carriers phone)... just want to clarify that.
24. Miacol posted on 26 Jul 2009, 08:07 0 0
merkeke, I think he's referring to the issues that VZW users don't always get text messages from other carrier's at the proper time. It's been an ongoing issue for some people, though I think they have cleaned up the issue, because I have not heard about it anymore. Though the people I know that have VZW are few and far apart.
25. Miacol posted on 26 Jul 2009, 08:15 0 0
soulearter93, You forgot to mention that VZW will continue to have the problem they have today which is CDMA network like Verizon is a single use only network. What I mean by this is that Internet access only works if you are not on a call. So implementing a Tablet that only uses LTE makes sense because Apple doesn't have to worry about voice calls, but with LTE not being everywhere (in the USA or abroad) why would they limit their market to LTE/EVDO and not use LTE/3G? I'm not sure if Apple is truely seeing VZW as a viable machine for them because they would have to create a machine with LTE/EVDO/3G which makes the device heavier and thicker. Though just me thinking aloud, you know how the VZW fanboys on here get.
26. lolipopjones posted on 26 Jul 2009, 12:12 0 0
LTE for the first 3 years is only going to be available to Data Cards. The average consumer won't see its use for a while. LTE is bragging rights but you are correct Miacol. Verizon will not have simo voice and data due to their network being partition in such a way. The other point is LTE is backwards compatible with GSM meaning Apple can offer VzW an LTE based device because the LTE chipset will recognize 3g Bandwidths. However we still may not see a phone on VzW's network because all of them will need to be LTE/CDMA chipsets..... versus all GSM carrier will just need straight LTE devices.
34. sinfulta posted on 27 Jul 2009, 01:07 0 0
GSM Carriers do not need just straight LTE. LTE like UMTS is completely separate. You might want to understand what your talking about before you make posts on here and then it confuses people. The reason ATT can use internet and voice at the same time is because UMTS = HSPA/HSPDA etc. RUNS separately. It does not run on a GSM chipset, the GSM in the phone activates the phone and tells Edge/3G that's ok to use that network and bills it correctly. CDMA does not work that way, Single tower can do both 1X and EVDO/RevA. I'll even wiki it for you so you can read for yourself: Read the second paragraph:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U
niversal_Mobile_Telecommunicat LTE takes things BASED (does not use GSM at all accept for activation to where to bill) on GSM and CDMA technology. GSM structure for on the way the packet data is sent. While benefiting the way spread spectrum works for CDMA. The main competitor to UMTS is CDMA2000 (IMT-MC), which is developed by the 3GPP2. Unlike UMTS, CDMA2000 is an evolutionary upgrade to an existing 2G standard, cdmaOne, and is able to operate within the same frequency allocations. This and CDMA2000's narrower bandwidth requirements make it easier to deploy in existing spectra. In some, but not all, cases, existing GSM operators only have enough spectrum to implement either UMTS or GSM, not both. For example, in the US D, E, and F PCS spectrum blocks, the amount of spectrum available is 5 MHz in each direction. A standard UMTS system would saturate that spectrum. Where CDMA2000 is deployed, it usually co-exists with UMTS. In many markets however, the co-existence issue is of little relevance, as legislative hurdles exist to co-deploying two standards in the same licensed slice of spectrum. PHONES INCLUDING GSM will have 3 Radios: Example: ATT Radio 1: GSM Radio 2: UMTS aka HSPA-3G (HSPDA/HSPDA+ aka 3.5G) Radio 3: LTE (Nothing to do with other radios as it is NOT GSM or CDMA) Example: VZW Radio 1: CDMA2000 aka CDMA 1XRTT Radio 2: EVDO/RevA -3G (Verizon/Sprint have decided to skip 3.5G of Rev. B and Rev. C upgrades) Radio 3: LTE (Nothing to do with other radios as it is NOT GSM or CDMA) I work for a chipset manufacturer and deal with this day in and day out. So people please STOP saying it's going to be this or that. That's what it is. Anyone can do an quick internet search and see what I'm talking about is true. So why say something and post on here that's not true if your not sure? I don't understand this site sometimes.ions_System
37. The Spartan posted on 27 Jul 2009, 22:23 0 0
Sinfulta: You sir are a pro. Bravo man, bravo!
17. VSS_55 posted on 25 Jul 2009, 18:57 0 0
damn. the landline carriers may have to do some speed boosts to compete with wireless... LOL! as long as the bandwidth cap is removed or raised considerably i might just get a aircard and run everything on it. hah.
18. souleater93 posted on 25 Jul 2009, 19:23 0 0
actually they are always ahead of them by a few years. i learned it in a high school program at ASU that taught only cellphone technology for a semester.
20. sinfulta posted on 25 Jul 2009, 20:18 0 0
Correct. Comcast in my area already offers 50mb service. I have had there blast services with was 16mb for about 2 years now. So cellular will still be slower, but website's haven't had such a demanding jump in the last couple years. So it will still be fast for all of us.
23. VSS_55 posted on 25 Jul 2009, 23:51 0 0
hmmm, probably havent noticed it much since i just have basic internet. Still with such a massive jump in speed there gonna have to offer faster basic services or i do see them loosing alot of buisness.
32. Kiltlifter posted on 26 Jul 2009, 19:54 0 0
Yeah... landline providers can provide 100 mbps if they wanted to... but why bother unlocking that speed when everyone is content paying a higher prices for a normal speed. I highly doubt that anyone will release LTE at it's capacity... i bet 5-10mbps at start.. but that is just my speculation. NOT BASED ON MY DATA REPS INSIDE INFO... BECAUSE I AM SOOOOO COOOL
31. Phullofphil posted on 26 Jul 2009, 19:21 0 0
they will do what ever is necessary to compete. If they can get away with it they will. Its business. Depending on what the market will alow i would guess pricing to go up wit everything else but offer more as the technology becomes easioer to make build and maintain just l,ike any thing else.
35. WKlingbeil posted on 27 Jul 2009, 08:06 0 0
Also, #22 & #26 (same poster) seems to think that the LTE/CDMA phones will be a permanent arrangement, which is highly incorrect. Just as the analog network did, the CDMA network will meet its end with VZW. It may take many years, but after about 5 years, they will be using LTE for both networks, and will have devices that will have only LTE support. They'll retire CDMA as they did with the analog network, because it's so extremely expensive to have to operate 2 different networks at one time. They'll most likely even have LTE only devices after 2-3 years, that's just my estimate, so don't quote me on it, but that's my anticipation.
