Verizon relaunching the KIN duo today, this time as feature phones
0. phoneArena 18 Nov 2010, 05:46 posted on
The phones appear as the KIN ONEm and KIN TWOm in Big Red's system, sold online today, and on December 2nd in-stores. This time Verizon has classified them as as feature phones that will not require a data plan...
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1. souleater93 (Posts: 86; Member since: 20 Mar 2009)
I find this a little odd because they were first smartphones and I heard they didn't fare well with consumers, but now they are feature phones, which can be more appealing to costumers that don't want to pay for Data. I know the KIN TWOm has wifi which is a first for feature phones, my question would be can a user use wifi even if they don't have a data plan or would Verizon make you pay to use it?
2. darkerthnblack (unregistered)
Wifi isn't billed per use as it's not using the data network for vzw
3. steven252000 (Posts: 64; Member since: 10 Feb 2010)
Okay just to comment on the data plan deal with these phones. I just checked the phones out on Verizonwireless.com due to the fact we are getting my daughter a phone for Christmas. I chatted with a rep and asked "Do you have to have a data plan this go around with these phones?" To which she answered "yes, a data plan ir required". I promptly ranted on her a little bit about the phone flopping the first time around due to having to have a data plan on a phone mainly aimed at teens and that most people if made to pay a data plan would just rather opt for a smartphone which can and will do much more than a Kin phone ever could. The rep said it failed the first time due to other "phone related" issues. So.......do these phones require a data plan? I wish I knew for sure. Not many of the other regular "feature" phones really appeal to me much. I would like to buy my daughter a phone that was half way cool. I also can not really afford to add another data plan to my account so that means we are looking only at feature phones. Guess I will try another rep and see what I am told there.....lol.
6. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
The fact that these devices carry the ''feature phone'' label means that they DO NOT require a data plan. Whatever rep you chatted with was either trying to upsell you on a data plan or was just misinformed about the devices. It was my understanding that some of the original smartphone features that were on the original KIN One/Two models like the auto-updates from Facebook, Twitter, etc. were being taken away so that the phone could fit the ''feature phone'' profile. It may have sucked as a smartphone but I think it would be one hell of a feature phone. 5/8MP camera with 4 or 8GB onboard memory as well as a cheap price tag. Maybe they pulled it and revamped the software to sell thru inventory.
7. souleater93 (Posts: 86; Member since: 20 Mar 2009)
I agree with you on the point with the with feature phones not requiring data plans, however not all of Verizon wireless people get the new information at the same time or they ignore it causing scams within Verizon. Some employees do in fact try to get more money out of costumers and I have seen them do it. Also if they wanted to make it a feature phone wouldn't they have to change the OS because smartphones run on iOS, WM OS, or Android OS typically...and weren't they running WM before like @zerglisk says?
4. toodles (unregistered)
I was looking at these phones on the website and seeing what they would cost me to upgrade to. When I try to upgrade to either of these phones, I am told by the system that these phones cannot be used on a family plan account. If I ordered one, then I would have to establish an individual plan to use this phone, and forego my family plan.
8. BostonCeltics (unregistered)
Yea i just tried to order it online but i was not able to because i was on a family plan. It requires an individual plan.... which is kinda dumb. This phone is about to flop AGAIN.
5. zerglisk (Posts: 544; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
"m" stands for windows "mobile"... are they still on windows mobile 6.5 crap!?
9. smward (unregistered)
I attempted to upgrade to this phone yesterday and was unable to do so without choosing a smartphone data plan. I talked with a verizon rep who told me the phones were listed on the web site as a feature phone in error and are still considered a smartphone. Verizon reps have no idea what is going on with this phone and are misinformed ( i've gotten different answers from different reps). They better remove the data plan requirement or this phone will surely flop again.
10. Scribe3d (unregistered)
As feature phones, these do not require a data plan. I called customer service and did a "fake order" to see what happened. Both confirmed that data was not necessary. I also asked about the necessity of an individual plan and was told that this was a hitch in the online process. They said you can go back after the order and change the line to a share line as a work-around until they get it fixed online. I was also told they could order it for me on the phone out-right the right way.
In any case, as feature phones at these price points, these are hella-nice buys. Fifty bucks for a 8MP, 8GB on-board, and a 600mMHz tegra processor feature phone will make some kids Christmas fairly merry.
11. sarah (unregistered)
I just ordered one for myself and for my son yesterday and online it did require a data pkg but when I called verizon directly the rep. said it was probably a glitch in the system so she ordered it over the phone for me and it doesn't require a data pkg. They were also offering BOGO with a approved 2 year agreement.
12. derek (Posts: 14; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
there was a glitch in the website system and these phones do not require data, and they have finally fixed the problem
and the m does not stand for mobile, it stands for modified because they modified it by removing data using features like the loop