Verizon now taking online orders for the Motorola DROID ULTRA and Motorola DROID MAXX
0. phoneArena 20 Aug 2013, 11:17 posted on
Verizon's website is now ready to ring up your orders for the Motorola DROID ultra and the Motorola DROID MAXX; the former comes equipped with a 5 inch AMOLED screen offering a resolution of 720 x 1280. That adds up to a pixel density of 294ppi. Under the hood is a dual-core 1.7GHz Motorola X8 processor and 2GB of RAM is on board...
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1. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)
Legitimately considering trading in my iPhone 4S for this, but I have 3 concerns:
1 - I love how the iPhones syncs with iTunes - it would save me from having to buy an iPod.
2 - I love how my iPhone syncs so well with my Mac.
3 - Last Android phone I had wasn't TOO laggy, but didn't even come close to the iPhone with regards to smoothness of OS.
If there are any explainations on how this won't be an issue, please let me know. I'm 100% willing to switch, but just need that extra guarantee I won't regret it. Help me!
6. Kurai (unregistered)
What? . .. iOS is also lagging and it became slower after the iOS 6 update. And for christ's sake. Android stopped lagging after the jellybean update . . .
you don't need to sync anything on android you can freely do what you want with it . . . android syncs both with windows and mac . .
10. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 11874; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
There's a lot of wrong info here. Android still has problems with lag. Many users with a 2012 Nexus 7 are reporting issues with lag even though it's stock Android with Jellybean that is supposed to be lag free.
Then there's users with the S4 that has issues with lag.
Freedom comes with a price.
12. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Thought I'd correct the "correct" info here. Some users with the old Nexus are having lag issues, seemingly due to degrading flash memory, which is a hardware issue from Asus, not a software issue with Android.
Then there are *defective* S4s that have issues with lag, the battery not charging well/losing battery life, and the phone heating up-all at once. Most S4s are absolutely fine.
15. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 11874; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Oh really? Because I've also seen reports of people having lag issues with other Nexus devices. Looks more like an excuse than an actual "correction" from you.
Most are fine? Are you forgetting that TouchWiz is beyond bloated on the S4? Even so, those are still issues and concerns that numerous users have complained about in large numbers. Your most claim is moot.
Hook line and sucker
18. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
"Are you forgetting that TouchWiz is beyond bloated on the S4?"
That's irrelevant. True, but irrelevant. "Large numbers" is also frighteningly nonspecific. Here, I'll help you: I sell Galaxy S4s every day at my job, on all carriers. Out of probably a couple hundred that my store has put out in the last couple of months, I've seen two or three that have had the defective issue.
"Hook line and sucker"
If you say so. Doesn't make you right, though.
20. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 11874; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
"That's irrelevant. True, but irrelevant. "Large numbers" is also frighteningly nonspecific. Here, I'll help you: I sell Galaxy S4s every day at my job, on all carriers. Out of probably a couple hundred that my store has put out in the last couple of months, I've seen two or three that have had the defective issue."
How is that irrelevant? It's an issue that many users are complaining about. It's more relevant than you adding in the strawman about your job of selling cellphones. If anything, that's irrelevant. Denying it doesn't make the issues go away.
"If you say so. Doesn't make you right, though."
Let me guess you are? Thank you for that great laugh.
22. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Bloat does not equal lag, Mxy. Samsung would have to throw a lot more onto the S4 to make it lag with the processing power it has.
Yes, bloat is an issue if you are overwhelmed by the extra features, annoyed at the flash memory space it takes up, etc, but it doesn't actually affect the phone's performance. Maybe three years ago it would've. Oh wait, I forgot, you usually are stuck in the past when it comes to Android.
26. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 11874; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
I never said boat equaled lag. Are you paying attention at all? Samsung threw a lot onto the S4 and now it's causing issues with lag. It's noticable when you compare it to the S3 and the Note 2.
You and your cheap potshots. Afraid to hear the truth. The extra features cause extra issues. This has been reported numerous times by many users.
30. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay, Mxy, time to put up or shut up. Where are these widespread lag issues caused by bloat being reported? Let's see some sources.
Furthermore, even if Samsung's bloat causes lag, and that's a big if, your original response was to someone who said that Android itself doesn't lag post Jelly Bean (and it doesn't). This whole article is about Motorola phones, which don't have any Samsung bloat on them. So really, this whole discussion is irrelevant.
33. Fishbowl (Posts: 22; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)
As someone who owns a S4 and have used both stock and custom roms i can attest to the fact that there is lag/delay in some areas of touchwiz. The biggest culprit is stupid S-Voice.
For those not in the know there is a slight delay getting back to the Home screen using the Home button due S-Voice. It's activated by double pressing the home button, so the system waits (I'm guessing half a second, I dunno) for a double press before it stops waiting for the second input and it takes you to home. You can disable it, but it's not super obvious how. Most people aren't aware of the double press issue.
There is also the famous Touchwiz Gallery long startup. I also feel there is some lag going/switching between the system settings, but I believe that is that is due to samsung's animation settings being too long.
But as you said this is a TW problem and has nothing to do with Android. Android is pretty much lag free and Mxy's sensationalist nexus lag info is incorrect. I own the N7 2012 and my brother has the N4. No lag here.
35. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 11874; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
You know a Google search only takes like a few seconds? PA's done a few articles on it as well. But since you asked, I'll provide some sources below -
Happy now? Android devices never hold up too well over time. Proof is your customer you spoke of earlier with the S2. Lag is still there whether you want to admit it or not.
39. Fishbowl (Posts: 22; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)
What does the first link have to do with anything? And what does TW have to do with android lagging? Stock Android runs very well. Hell, so does Sense 5.0. And from what we know the new Droids/moto x will be very close to stock.
14. rallyguy (Posts: 620; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
4.3 solved the hardware problem. It's not an "Android" problem though.
msa....I know there are way to transfer and sync iTunes with Android/Windows. I haven't done it personally but it should be easy to find if you search it.
24. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I would say there's lag with the Nexus 7 because of the massive resolution. The Xperia Tablet Z has similar lag problems with the same resolution and Adreno 320. So that's not an Android problem, that's a GPU that's being stressed by the resolution of the display. That's the same reason the iPad 3 lagged, the GPU just isn't strong enough.
There was originally lag with the GS4 because of the skin, but Samsung has made it nearly disappear with a couple updates, though there are still a few frame drops all around the UI. Not an Android problem specifically, that's more on Samsung.
8. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
I would advise sticking with your iPhone, or getting a newer one if you care that much about the iOS ecosystem, iOS and Android = Not very compatible. But if you are willing to dump more money to refill your collection of music and apps, or don't mind starting new, then make the switch. This phone shouldnt lag at all with the near-stock android, just make sure you close out of apps you arent using.
11. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 11874; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Don't do it. I wouldn't necessary go for a Motorola phone. Their reputation with updates isn't exactly the best at the moment.
I would wait for the new iPhone and go from there.
16. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Hey Mxy, do me a favor: look up the update history of the last round of Droids, namely the Droid Razr M, Droid Razr HD, and Droid Razr Maxx HD.
Done it yet? No?
Still didn't do it yet? Okay, I'll clue you in: the last Droid line got their Jelly Bean updates before the Galaxy S3 did, and the S3 was released long before the Droids were. There are other phones released at the same time or before by other companies-flagship phones, no less-that either haven't gotten JB yet or got that update months after every Motorola phone did.
36. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 11874; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Oh give me a ----ing break. I guarantee you if Google hadn't bought Motorola, then those Droid you speak of would have never gotten the Jellybean upgrade. It's not like the Jellybean updates are that different from each other because they aren't.
21. techguyone (Posts: 199; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Change the record Mxy, you go on and on and on about motorola phones, your information is outdated, biased and full of crap, get over yourself.
31. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Actually, Mxy is an equal opportunity Android and WP h8er. Any trash he can post about those platforms, he does. There was a time when he would post trash about BB/RIM, but with BB fading, even Mxy doesn't see the need to bash BB.
13. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Here, I'll try to help:
1) Google Music Manager is free, takes a few (very clearly explained) steps to set up, and will move your entire iTunes collection to Android. Better yet, once your music is on Google Music, you never even have to physically put it on the device. It plays over the internet by default. I've played my music over ATT's HSPA+ with few issues. However, once your music is on Google Music, you CAN download it to your device over Wifi by hitting the push pin icon in the album view on the phone.
2) If I knew specifically what you would be syncing with your Mac, I could help more here, but Google's cloud and sync services are web based and thus will work in the browser with no problem.
3) I just got back from a Verizon store where I played with all three Droids-they are absolutely smooth and lag free. I'm going to try to order my Maxx on Friday when I have money.
19. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Addendum: once Music Manager has your current collection on iTunes, you can drop Apple for music entirely. Most music that you can find on iTunes (with very few, likely indie exceptions) is available on Google Music, and the latter runs sales all the damn time. But even if you like shopping iTunes better, you can still use Music Manager to zip any new music to Google Music. It scans your specified folders and adds anything new when you ask.
37. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)
Good stuff - thanks for helping me out here.
23. jove39 (Posts: 1825; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
First of all you don't need pc/mac to sync your phone...any android device will sync directly from cloud data.
Google/Gmail account has excellent cloud support...contacts, gmail, photos, drive (docs and all), music, keep (notes), calendar and few more google+, currents, app data, chrome...all sh1t you can think will sync after you login and setup your google account. Its just one time effort when you move from itunes to google.
Lag is not an issue at all with android 4.x...I have new nexus 7...apart from occasional stuttering while pressing back button like 5 times/sec :)
When I say lag is not issue...I exclude Galaxy devices...S4 was plagued with lag initially due to crappy touchwiz :)
Motorola devices are very close to stock and you won't experience any lag...stock android performs somewhat better than bloated oem version.
25. Topcat488 (Posts: 1394; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
The App "Android file transfer" lets you move everything from your Mac or iMac except games... It's very easy to keep your Android sync with your Mac... I thought the same when i got the Samsung Note. :)
2. Mastertwiz (Posts: 15; Member since: 10 Dec 2009)
What is the Verizon return policy on new phones these days? I'd like to check out the MAXX, at least until the LG G2 comes out. I can't wait much longer though; my GNex is on it's last leg.
5. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)
Last time I returned a phone within 30 days of purchase (about 2 years ago) it was a $35 restocking fee. Not sure if this still stands, however.
9. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
2 week return period plus $35 restock fee.
17. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
14 days, restocking fee. If you go to Best Buy they offer the same return policy, sans restocking fee.
32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I wonder if the Best Buy Reward Zone members get a longer return option with no penalty?
3. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2069; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
1. Ipod is an mp3 player, you don't need that if you have a phone.
2. Use a PC suite.
3. Not all Androids are the same.
4. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)
Thanks for the response, but honestly not helpful what-so-ever.
7. eman99 (Posts: 360; Member since: 03 Aug 2010)
0-5 is what the ravens look in their first five games
27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4274; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Planning on getting the Droid Mini (I'm in it for the pixel density) Saturday if T-Mobile waives my ETF because I moved to a place with no service. Hopefully since Motorola has a deal with Verizon, they'll get the 4.3 update pushed through quickly; they got the 4.1 update to the Razr HD in a little over a month, I hope we'll see similar updates for the new Droid series.
28. evarod48 (Posts: 154; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
if you're going to buy these phones, buy them on wirefly, much cheaper
29. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
With extra contract terms and an inability to change your plan, not to mention they screw up plans as well.
34. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
"if you're going to buy these phones, buy them on wirefly, much cheaper"...worst advice you could give anyone who is looking to buy a phone. if you wanna f yourself over in the long run...buy a phone off wirefly.com
38. REITdude (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Meh! Just tried it out at the Verizon store. Similar to the prior model, OK screen, pre-loaded with 92 apps (lots of bloat), heavy (though giant tether made it difficult to gauge) and goes for $299 on contract. Also the Verizon demo overlay program was irritating.