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Verizon and HTC show the true meaning of 'disastrous software support' - update the HTC ThunderBolt to ICS

0. phoneArena 01 Feb 2013, 05:44 posted on

Does anyone even remember the HTC ThunderBolt? We needed a few minutes to recall its appearance (and specs sheet), and when we finally had the complete image in our heads, we realized just how wrong all of this is...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:50 2

39. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)


Well at least an Android phone on Gingerbread is more capable than an iPhone 3GS on iOS6. Know from experience.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 10:55

48. cripton805 (Posts: 1455; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


Doesnt Apple only release partial updates to older devices?

ios 6 on iP5 is diff then ios 6 on 3GS

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 06:44 8

13. ilia1986 (unregistered)


"We just can't write an article about software updates without mentioning Apple. Apple may be many things, but when it says that an update will come on a specific date (yeah, Apple gives specific dates for its updates), it simply comes. No delays, no roll-out phases. Everyone with a compatible iDevice gets a notification about the update they need to get as soon as the person in Cupertino hits the launch button. Why can't Android manufacturers do the same? "

Because an update to Android is just a *bit* more than a few bug fixes, another useless stock app (newsstand and passbook anyone?) and some more bug fixes and minor improvements.

Let's look at Apples so called "updates", shall we? Notification center and lockscreen notifications aside, virtually 0 (ZERO) UI changes since version 1.0. Some minor improvements, and yes - bug fixes. Apparently iDevices have bugs. Who knew.

Android updates on the other hand come to a zillion different phones\tablets in more than 100 different countries which have many many different carriers. Nevertheless, each Android update is VERY SIGNIFICANT.

In addition - if one single Android device is forsaken not to receive the latest OTA, there are numerous 3rd party solutions for it to bridge the gap in the Play store.

Finally, should a user choose to, and should their phone contain a chip for which the drivers are NOT IN CLOSED SOURCE - the user can always root their phone and install a custom rom which usually contains the pre-latest if not the latest software version.

Android is freedom. The power is only in the consumers' hands.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 06:54 2

15. wendygarett (unregistered)


Have you heard of trade off? Seriously I'm tired if these update issues

The most opened operating system, is adopted by those closed minded fanboy, crying like a baby, who want everything better than what they hate to, simply because they felt insecure and afraid to lose than everyone else because they keep memories themselves that it is the most opened os...

YOU PAY WHAT YOU GET... an opened minded user doesnt care much and will always happy to their device, as long as it stay sturdy...

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 07:16 6

16. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Can someone translate his\her post to English please?

Seriously Wendy - I have no idea what you're trying to say.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 07:22 4

17. wendygarett (unregistered)


You pay for the adobe flash
you pay for the bluetooth file transfer
you pay for the custom rom
you pay for the free pirate apps
and you pay less for the above compare to those who lacks of
AND YET, YOU DEMAND MORE? ARE YOU AFRAID TO LOSE?
seriously, I'm so freaking tired to those droider keep demand and never end, why can't they be positive just for one second? Smh

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 07:31 1

19. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Marry me?

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 07:39 2

20. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Err what?

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 08:12 1

25. wendygarett (unregistered)


Oh well, Israeli

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:37 2

33. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


engrish please?

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 08:52 3

27. D_Tech-tive (Posts: 104; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


It's easy to keep up with up dates when you only offer 1 phone a year! Which still are behind spec wise! Which is why Apple is on decline.

7 versions of Iphone made only by Apple vs HUNDREDS of Android phones from many different manufacturers.

Gee what would be easier to keep up with 7 phones or hundreds? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out!

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:35 2

31. wendygarett (unregistered)


If you happy to your current device, you will forget the update, that's what I'm trying to say

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 14:39

68. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I'm semi tech savy and know more then the average user but even I am nervous about rooting an android. I tried it with a sgs3 and while I got it rooted I was unsure even after trying to put a backup of the og rom if I would be able to get back to it. I can jailbreak my iphone no problem and get back to standard conditions. So saying oh android doesn't have a problem with updates cause you can root it is only realistic for very few . Also you risk your phone becoming unstable and you void your warrenty. How is that a solution?

posted on 02 Feb 2013, 03:10

75. ilia1986 (unregistered)


I dunno biophone - I used to work for a few days at a phone shop, first thing we did to brand new GS2 and GS3 units which were just bought by the customers is rooted them. The whole process was 15 minutes long.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 06:50 1

14. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)


Android is mainly for nerds that root and like complication...even with your quad core processors and 2 gb of ram (in a phone) you still get force close and glitches....eek screw customization (that's all you really have) i'll take stability any day. And don't try to cram that Samsung phones don't get force close and blah blah blah down my gullet...I've seen it. Lag the hell up.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:26 2

30. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)


Wtf are you talking about. My GNex doesn't have those issues at all. And that's over a year old.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:39 1

34. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Never had one force close or glitch that I've seen on my DNA. Smooth as butta on Jellybean out of the box.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 10:59 1

49. cripton805 (Posts: 1455; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


Yup. These people are funny.

The Nokia kids are jusy jelous because W8 doesnt even support it.
I 100% bet you that once they get quads their mouth will shut about quads.

posted on 02 Feb 2013, 07:08

76. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


The last time i got a force close was on Android 2.1. Which was a long time ago, you windows/apple fanboys need to realize one thing, Android was once a bit unstable but it improved a lot. I only reboot my One X to flash custom ROMs on it, and i never have the force closes, glitches and lags you guys are always talking about.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 07:40

21. dirtydirty00 (Posts: 421; Member since: 21 Jan 2011)


YESSSSS ive been waiting for this! woohoo. (yes i still have the TB) only until apil tho then upgrading to the S4

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 07:56 1

23. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)


I'm trying to not update my phone. Verizon keeps trying to push the update to my note 2 and I'm not havin it.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 08:05 1

24. wendygarett (unregistered)


What reasons make you refuse to?

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 08:51 1

26. zrated (Posts: 14; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


i think i'm missing something about mobile phones. most people, including me, who bought the thunderbolt, should still be using it as our contracts aren't up yet. the thunderbolt came out at the end of march, 2011, so two-year verizon contracts are still in effect.

i got mine on the very first day of release and i still have it. yes, i could have upgraded in october, but i wanted to wait to see what new devices would come out in the spring. i assume a lot of people are doing that, not to mention that most people didn't buy the thunderbolt on release day.

so, for people who bought a thunderbolt, but are no longer using it, how did you get out of your contract in order to get a new phone, assuming you haven't upgraded?

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:40

35. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Upgrades are on a 20 month basis so those that bought it in March 2011 have been able to upgrade since late December dude.

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 21:56

73. zrated (Posts: 14; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)


verizon told me i was up for upgrade in october, but i wanted to wait until the spring to see what new devices would come out, as i mentioned above. probably should have jumped on the note 2, but i just couldn't make myself plunk down $300 on-contract.

but my point was that most people didn't get the phone on launch day, or even on launch month, so a large group should still be using them or have recently upgraded. that seems to conflict with the general sentiment that this phone is ancient and that nobody even remembers it.

posted on 02 Feb 2013, 08:46 1

78. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


I agree with you there, was just pointing out that there are many people that bought it that are beginning to be eligible to upgrade, and that number will only grow.

What you say is true though there are still many of them out there, and imo the Thunderbolt was the best of the first generation LTE devices, with the primary flaw being the awful battery lol. I know, I had one.=P

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:23 1

28. BadAssAbe (Posts: 456; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


Easy way to update android phone

1 make every manufacturer add their own custom UI as a launcher (HTC SENSE, BLUR, TOUCH WIZ, ECT...)
2 Have all carriers say "Update at your own risk"

Spread the word

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 10:05 1

40. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I've been saying that for years, but I don't think it's ever going to happen. OEMs and carriers are COMPLETLY ruining the experience for the super users, and although rooting is a fairly simple process, it a process that I don't want to "have" to do just to have the latest OS. And wouldn't it make life easier for them as well?

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 09:25 6

29. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)


I like how they try to commend Samsung in the article, yet they never updated their comparable phones to ICS. If I remember correctly, the Charge was also high end (one of the first with LTE) and went on sale after the TBolt. Now when is the last time that thing ever heard of an update? At least the TBolt got it in the end, but still people gotta bitch. And at least HTC went through with it. I'm pretty sure LGs track records are terrible (2X, anyone?)

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 11:39

53. JWS65 (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


Well, Samsung said that any phone prior to GS2 won't receive ICS update. So made it clear and sticks with their words. From GS2 and on, they kept update schedule fairly well. But HTC went back and forth regarding Tbolt update to ICS, confusing us many times.

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