Verizon agrees to pay $21 million to settle suit over early termination fee
source: WSJ via FierceWireless
1. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
AT&T has had recently similiar frivilous lawsuits like Verizon went through. Yes, these are big companies, but people know what they are getting into and look to profit from it. Typically a customer was buying an iphone and breaking contract for around 175 or less and selling it on EBAY to make a profit. AT&T lost money - now smartphones are 325.00 and 10.00 declining each month, so it makes it a less appealing option for someone looking to make a buck to opt out early. Carriers will waive fees if after quite a few attempts the service issue cannot be resolved. Still, these lawsuits only benefit the lawyers involved and are a waste of resources and time. Just like the new one with those idiot customers suing apple and AT&T.
12. wade1968 (Posts: 224; Member since: 12 Apr 2010)
If the goverment,of the U.S.A, had not deregulated the phone companies. the giant yearly price increases,would not be happening.
15. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Yeah, that's solves everyone's problems...let the gov't handle EVERYTHING for you. Would you like the gov't to tuck you in at night with a warm glass of milk too?! Government regulations are exactly why the world's economies are up shit's creek right now!
2. Truth (Posts: 56; Member since: 15 Jul 2009)
I prefer the previous $175 termination fees. I buy smartphones though, so I would.
11. wade1968 (Posts: 224; Member since: 12 Apr 2010)
I like how you think truth. Verizon needs to sit down and look at its' current rules,for early termination fees. Make a better rule that works for everyone.
14. PapaJay224 (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 Feb 2009)
There is, its called SwiftView, it shows the actual signature you signed with at the time you received your contract. Proving you signed and agreed to the terms and conditions. You cant make everyone happy, but you can prove they knew what they were doing when they were in the store.
21. wade1968 (Posts: 224; Member since: 12 Apr 2010)
I agree with you. Problems is over time your signature changes,because of the pain that developes in a persons hands.
7. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
You are right... They are gladly paying 21 Mil because its chump change... lol
4. jpropin (Posts: 152; Member since: 20 May 2010)
After the lawyers get their slice, what will that add up to for each person? About $6.78? As for Verizon, $21 mil is petty cash. They can make that up later on when The Droid Mk 7 is released. If it worked every time Deep Purple changed their band line-up, it'll surely work for Big Red!
8. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
"Each class member will receive $87.50 after lawyers take their share." Read the article you shall receive thine answer in full....
9. remixfa (Posts: 14224; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
petty cash? that money would otherwise be reinvested into other things. The network, employee benifits, ect ect ect. Companies dont just pile money into a vault and swim in it. Money is constantly reinvested. Would you like judge to force you to pay 10,000? is that petty cash? or did you already have other uses for that money?
10. jpropin (Posts: 152; Member since: 20 May 2010)
Verizon has the monetary and legal resources to fight anything that comes their way. They decided to settle. Verizon will go on and survive and thrive. The average scmuck off the street pulling down 40 g's a year has no ability to fight back or settle when the judge forces them to pay $10,000. For him or her it could very well mean financial ruin Non-comaparable
19. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
Well, apparently Verizon Wireless is the Scrudge McDuck of the wireless industry and all they do is swim in the money...accordin to these posters that think they just have 21 mil to blow.
5. pingpong (Posts: 145; Member since: 28 Mar 2010)
So why was Verizon sued in the first place? Was there 175,000 people that felt they were tricked into a contract or something?
6. jpropin (Posts: 152; Member since: 20 May 2010)
Why does anybody get sued these days? Answer.....Cause they can be.
13. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
People cry and whine and when they do it enough then they get their lawyer, any lawyer, involved. The 175 ETF is fair - the 300-350 smartphone contract term fee is fair as those phones typically cost over 400.00 retial. My ARIA is 380 retail, so not a great deal for me, but for iphones at 499-699, the ETF is a bigger deal - look, this is a fake issue - if you sign the contract and do not want to read the terms and conditions, then I have no sympathy for you. These phones are luxury items and no one forced you to buy the damn thing - same goes to the idiot whiners who bought the iphone 4.....whew....next subject please, PHONEARENA.
17. jpropin (Posts: 152; Member since: 20 May 2010)
Regardless of how you slice it, it's great to be a lawyer in this deal. They'll slice up what? Close to a cool 6 MIL? The $87.50 each class member gets won't even be enough for most them to even pay one months worth of cell service! If they got it back in 1999 where this dates back to, they'd of been able to pay the bill and still take the kids out for ice-cream!
20. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
So why was there a suit filed against Verizon again? Now we all are pretty knowledgeable about the current ETF policies and how they work, but according to the article this was about an issue back in 1999 which i'd assume the ETF was $175 at the time. So what we have is a bunch of Californians claimin to not have been aware of the ETF for the 2 yr. contract that they signed (which clearly states in the contract that you sign) that there would be a ETF and what do they mean "certain customers"? I must be missin something here. Most American consumers think the idea of a 2 yr. contract is ridiculous. Now if the tide switched and US carriers followed some of the trends of Int'l carriers and did no contract but charged full retail cost for the phone with no 2 yr. pricing option then there would more bitchin. Then i'm sure there would be another class action suit filed on why carriers don't offer 2 yr. contracts. Some consumers are like homeless people, always wantin a hand out.
22. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
They want a free phone and no fee - they should buy a gophone...
23. DDTKC (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Jul 2010)
I AGREE! PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS WANTING SOMETHING FOR NOTHING! I SEE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME COMING INTO THE STORE AND WANTING ONLY THE FREE PHONES-NOT CARING IF THEY ARE DECENT QUALITY OR NOT. THEN WONDER WHY THEY HAVE POOR RECEPTION OR OTHER PROBLEMS. THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY-SOME DO HOWEVER TO IT TO THE EXTREME!