Verizon LTE signal measured at 80Mbps in New York City
0. phoneArena 15 Oct 2013, 07:03 posted on
Based on screenshots measuring network speed, it seems that Verizon is testing a faster version of its LTE network in certain areas of New York City; operating at speeds that occasionally run over 80Mbps, the signal is running on the 2.1 GHz Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) band. Using a Verizon branded Apple iPhone 5s, a gentleman named Milan Milanovic also scored a peak 23Mbps uploading speed...
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1. NexusPhan (Posts: 623; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Cool story bro. Now try doing that for half the price a month.
5. Beholder88 (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Um, those are showing 49Mbps if you convert from kbps. Still slower. And why pay half when you get half, and crappy customer service? You get what you pay for, it's true in almost everything. Always had Verizon and will never give it up.
7. NexusPhan (Posts: 623; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
50Mbps is damn fast. And that's not even T-Mobile's AWS network. Which, by the way, is ready to go all over the country. It's only a software switch at this point. Verizon requires hardware upgrades.
Verizon's current 4GLTE is slow and capped - making it almost useless at this point. I gave up Verizon after 10 years and have absolutely no regrets. Your customer service comment is laughable. Verizon has atrocious customer service.
15. o0Exia0o (Posts: 895; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)
I dont know what you are smoking, but you have things completely mixed up. T-MO has a long way to go as far as buld out of thier 4G LTE network. As for VZW they are fairly complete with thier 4G LTE build out. Verizon is only a switch throw away from activating thier LTE-A network at which time they will be able to run VoLTE on thier network. T-Mo is still somewhere in the range of 2 years away, with plenty of hardware upgrades to thier cell equipment, from thanking about LTE-A or running VoLTE on thier network.
35. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10434; Member since: 14 May 2012)
T-Mo already has HD voice... They should start LTE-A by the first half of next year.
37. JC557 (Posts: 1321; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
I would switch back to T-Mobile once they have extended their coverage in the in the US. As of right now their service can only be found in major metro areas and major interstates which does me no good.
So there is a reason you're paying less.
13. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10434; Member since: 14 May 2012)
50mbps + unlimited > 80 + limited.
Doesn't take a genius to find out which one is better.
39. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
50 mbps + unlimited + edge indoors < 80 (in/outdoors) + limited
44. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
obviously Verizon since the customer base is at least twice the size of T-mobile.
14. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Hey, if you want to be verizon's bitch, go ahead. They are the company who thinks it is their 1st amendment right to slow down your skype traffic or youtube traffic in favor of their own, wants to end net neutrality so they can screw you even more.
Oh, and you really think you will notice the diff btw 50 and 80mbps web browsing? Hint: that problem went out the window years ago with 3mbps DSL/cable.
12. Synack (Posts: 677; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
You guys forget that Verizon's network was about 50-60mbps at launch too. Hell I was seeing 50mbps for months before the network started getting flooded with people and slowed it down eventually to what I see now which is like 25mbps. The same will happen to T-Mobile.
22. Omarc07 (Posts: 392; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
i agree tmobiles lte speeds will probabaly go dwn over time but u do know tmobile still has hspa as a back up which gets up to 30 mbps i had both att and tmobile and i can assure u tmobiles hspa leaves att hspa behind tmobiles average speeds were 15-20 dwn while atts was 2-3 . So when tmobiles lte speeds go dwn they wont see a speed difference since there hspa is plenty fast unlike verizon which u go out lte u on horrible 3G i cant even load fb sometimes on there 3G upload pics forget it same with youtube forget it it craps out on there slow 3g evdo . My friends on tmobile are lucky they pay a lot less than i do on verizon have truly unlimited data and either way u look at it hspa+ or lte thy have fast speeds both ways
33. nnjerzy (Posts: 115; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
I totally agree,, i am running 45 down on TMOB LTE in NJ...consistent always and fast... im glad i left Verizon,, horrible company and practices,,, have your wallet and purse out with them because there coming for everything you have and suck you dry!!
25. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)
The problem is T-Mobile has a fraction of the customers that Verizon Wireless does, so that may not necessarily be true.
34. nnjerzy (Posts: 115; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
True your right but TMOB is getting there.. and at night TMOB is in all the other carriers heads.. thats why the all copy what TMOB is doing now!!
2. asulect (Posts: 131; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
Where in New York City you get 80mpbs? I am in mid-town mahattan and I will be lucky if I even get 2mbps on my LTE. When LTE first started, I get like 20mbps, but nowadays, I get speed that's slower than good old 3g.
3. NexusPhan (Posts: 623; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
What phone do you have? Verizon's core/regular 4GLTE is slow and congested. You need a phone that supports AWS. Which means Note 3/LG G2/iPhone 5S. GS4 needs a software update to enable it.
4. rsdmems (Posts: 2; Member since: 15 Oct 2013)
Could my Note 2 be updated to work on these bands?
9. NexusPhan (Posts: 623; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)
Nope. Hardware support for AWS is pretty much brand new. Sorry.
26. xmusicianguy (Posts: 96; Member since: 13 Jul 2011)
I get 20 Mbps in rural Tennessee (pop 30K) on LTE. Band 13 naturally. So I think they LIMIT the downlink traffic to a set speed during peak times whether the demand is there or not, a QoS method.
38. JC557 (Posts: 1321; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Okay, where the heck are you stuck at 2Mbps? I never dip that low on any of my LTE phones. The lowest I've seen was 22Mbps and the highest was 60Mbps, which is usually at night.
Towers do get congest as well so it's not like there isn't a reason for a drop in speeds. Still never had that much of a drop anywhere in NYC unless I'm in a subway station.
6. DaBigDogg (Posts: 13; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)
And don't forget, how much faster you can burn through your 2 gigs a month now too!
43. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Enjoy it, because that's next to go away for good.
10. BooBee (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Oct 2013)
I'd like to know where in NYC does someone get anything over 2Mbps on Verizon. I'm all over midtown and downtown with nothing better than 2Mbps. Verizon is so slow in NYC it's infuriating!
18. 14545 (Posts: 1459; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
This article is about AWS service. Your phone probably doesn't support it. I generally agree though, VZW is slow. I'm in NC, Charlotte to be exact, and 90% of the time I don't see anything better than 5-6. That's across multiple phones. So when VZW goes to knock me off my unlimited plan I'll say adios.
17. harpdogg (Posts: 18; Member since: 17 May 2012)
This does not matter. Like someone mention early when verizon was doing trials of the current LTE the speeds were 20megs+ now your lucky if you get 6 megs. Any inprovement is a good thing. But the reality is one person getting high speeds is worthless. The speeds that matter is a fully funciton network at 7pm that is when speed should be measured.
19. 14545 (Posts: 1459; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Don't forget the lack of hardware support for AWS. So probably a handful of people at any given time have the ability to even see this.
21. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
you took the words right out of my mouth
23. GeekMovement (Posts: 2140; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
wish I could get 1mbps on sprint -_-
24. xmusicianguy (Posts: 96; Member since: 13 Jul 2011)
The Galaxy S4 should have support as should the Note 3.
28. fsohio09 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Oct 2013)
Yet what everyone fails to realize is that from day one, Verizon Wireless has quoted speeds in the range of 5-12 Mbps (down) for their LTE network. We've all basically been spoiled lately and anything over these speeds is gravy. These speeds are published on their website quite plainly. Obviously LTE-A will be a different animal so I'd expect higher quoted speeds there as well.
29. xmusicianguy (Posts: 96; Member since: 13 Jul 2011)
Too bad Android doesn't have a Field Test app like that!
30. 14545 (Posts: 1459; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Field test app like what? Speedtest has an android app.
31. scsa852k (Posts: 329; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
No one will be able to use that speed on a consistent basis any time soon.
32. Esteban4u (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Oct 2013)
For as fast as their network is, it's locked down like Fort Knox. They won't sell SIM cards for their network unless you sign a contract and then they record your device's serial/ESN number, they have yet to certify the 2013 Nexus 7 tablet that's been proven to work on their network and they don't even honor the open access rules they agreed to when they got their LTE license from the FCC. All that and the fact that none of their Android phones are allowed to get updates from Google is enough to pass on Verizon's so-called fast LTE network.
36. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I left Verizon for T-Mobile (couldn't resist the Nexus 4) and really haven't looked back. There are dead zones, and stretches of I-95 have 2G, but for the overwhelming majority of my life, I'm in the suburbs enjoying HSPA on a fantastic phone which Verizon refuses to carry the correct way.
46. Esteban4u (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Oct 2013)
I don't understand why Verizon won't allow Android phones like they allow the iPhone to get updates from their OEM/OS maker. For the long 4 years AT&T had exclusivity on the iPhone, Android was VZW's bread and butter yet they lock it down, retard/stagnate it and bloat it in order to force their customers to buy new phones more often. Why doesn't Google leverage with Android (given it's ubiquity and sheer number of phones sold over that of iPhones) the same way Apple does. What choice would VZW have, only sell iPhones, push Windows Phone or some other lesser known cell phone O/S?
40. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
I wonder if folks with iPhones now would be able to talk and surf at the same time if LTE is on the AWS bands versus 700 MHz.
45. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
You can have all the speed in the world, but at the end of the day when you crap all over your loyal customers, it just doesn't matter. I was on Verizon for almost twenty years and I finally had it. $212 a month for 700 shared minutes, two smart phones with unlimited, and one flip phone got too outrageous, especially with their hit-or-miss coverage where I live (they are the #2 carrier here). Add in the fact they would no longer validate my employee discount, got rid of unlimited data unless you buy one of their devices outright at robbery pricing, tossed on some upgrade fees and the b.s. sales pitches to save money by switching to "Share Everything" (a lie, as it would've cost us more based on our usage)...it was time to move on. Ten years ago, I was one of their biggest promoters, not anymore. I refused to give Fran Scammo and his crew of pirates any more money. I pay a hundred dollars less a month now and notice nothing different. Good luck to you guys sticking around with this band of robbers.
47. Esteban4u (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Oct 2013)
As seen with the Galaxy Nexus, the lack of any other Nexus device after it, the current Nexus 7 (2013) Certification Debacle, the probability that there won't be a Nexus 5 on VZW, their refusal to allow Android phones to get prompt updates and insistence that all Android phones be bootloader locked, VZW has become a hostile carrier to Android phones, fans of the Android O/S and Google itself. Its become quite clear that VZW doesn't respect Android the way it does IOS. But the only way they would understand the displeasure of the savvy yet vocal enthusiast minority like myself would be to hurt them where it would hurt them, in their pockets. Get the word out to all your loved ones, families, friends, coworkers, etc... who you support and influence their cell phone purchasing decisions and who are also fans of Android devices themselves to stop buying Android devices from carriers like VZW, that cripple and prematurely end the life of still-useful Android devices. We as Android enthusiasts, deserve to have the most current and secure Android O/S version as well as the same great user experience VZW allows iPhone users to have.