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Validation! Google Wireless planned as data-only VoIP service in late-2013

0. phoneArena 17 Nov 2012, 10:35 posted on

Okay, we cant say that we predicted this, given that we just wrote about it yesterday. But, it seems some credit is due for knowing how the minds at Google work. It sounds like the deal between Google and Dish Network is being finalized, and Google is planning to launch a wireless network by late 2013 that will be data-only, using VoIP and data for SMS...

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posted on 17 Nov 2012, 10:47 14

1. MartyK (Posts: 669; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


SIgn me up, please

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:22 15

5. MeoCao (unregistered)


Wow, this is real REVOLUTION!

Google Fiber, Google Wireless the pieces come together and suddenly there will be no more cutthroat data plans.
Bye bye Verizon.

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 18:09

32. MpowerSkills (Posts: 33; Member since: 19 Feb 2011)


Why won't they by cuttthroat?

And wont Verizon network still be needed for a long time to come? I assume Google won't have a data coverage map thats very big for a while yet.

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 19:56 1

33. MeoCao (unregistered)


Google has different business model, they are in advertising business so they need people to use their services as much as possible. We see that everything Google offers is very cheap or free including Google Fiber, Nexus 4... And I expect the same thing with Google Wireless.

Of course Verizon will be there to stay, but Google is pushing hard to make the internet access more affordable and if Google wireless is successful Verizon must change or else.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 10:53 6

2. ajac09 (Posts: 1211; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


best have unlimited data , use phones that work on WIFI and cellular using GSM and CDMA LTE ( and wimax just to cover all the bases but wont happen lol) and you can sign me up! (and unlocked phones to)

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 12:21 8

14. -box- (Posts: 3565; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Why CDMA AND GSM? Having both would add uneeded cost and complication. I would guess Google would use GSM so it would be worldwide

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 19:35 1

26. Bernoulli (Posts: 1396; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


It'll be stupid if Google uses both technologies gsm and cdma, it's inefficient and they would basically have to have different towers for each technology, why do you think someone with let's say Vodafone comes over, and when they search for networks they can't see Verizon or sprint? No, they only see t-mobile or at&t, so having both technologies is the stupidest thing a company could do

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 10:56 4

3. ghostnexus (Posts: 95; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Yes woot!!!

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:01 6

4. cncrim (Posts: 415; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Google you have my support.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:22 3

6. dsDoan (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


I love the idea, but if it's from an anonymous source, then it's not validated.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:27 5

7. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


wow...!!!
Google is really changing the world for Good.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:28 5

8. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


Google Voice + Groove + Google Wireless = Satisfied Customer

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:38 5

9. shuaibhere (Posts: 859; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Google, there is country named india. Just have an eye in it.....

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:43 5

10. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the only problem is that with google voice there is no MMS unless your talking between 2 sprint customers.

If they can get that figured out and talk about national roaming agreements, they will have my ear. I rarely make calls, so a data only service + VoiP is really up my alley.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:49 8

12. LamaFc (Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Nov 2012)


I doubt they will let that go unchanged. Google is smart and tactical. remember Gmail beta? If you do you'll remember that they said it was apart of a "larger project" and so here we are. G Voice may have very well been just that.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 13:17 3

17. DaNTRoN (Posts: 135; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


+1 for both of you.

One question i just thought of. If it is VoIP can you talk and surf

Never mind. I thought about it. I can play Pandora and look at this site so one would imagine you could

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 15:46 2

20. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I'm on T-Mo and I have been getting MMS via Google Voice. It's weird though, because the text comes as an SMS, and the attached picture gets forwarded to e-mail.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 11:43 4

11. LamaFc (Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Nov 2012)


I love Sprint but I worship Google. Sign me up!

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 12:11 7

13. Kronic (banned) (Posts: 321; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)


Google=progress

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 12:23 4

15. akhi216 (Posts: 61; Member since: 01 May 2011)


Google may be a little too late to make their own wireless service with players like Verizon and AT&T readying to do the same thing with VoLTE. With that said, Google's pricing will actually give the companies a run for their money as Google will almost certainly offer cheaper prices. Will these players match Google's wireless offerings or will they bleed subscribers left and right until they get with the program? Time will tell. Currently with VZW' and AT&T's shared data plans one has to pay for unlimited talk and text in addition to paying for data, if they move to having everything done over LTE will they risk charging for talk and text and get undercut by Google or do they stop raping their subscribers and acknowledge that they have competition?

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 16:50 2

23. AWiseGuy (Posts: 68; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


"if they move to having everything done over LTE will they risk charging for talk and text and get undercut by Google or do they stop raping their subscribers and acknowledge that they have competition?"

It's for this very reason why I don't think that Google's too late to make their own wireless service. If you've got the money, it's never too late to enter the market. Google's pricing will probably be extremely competitive. Compared to current plans, it'll seem like free, I'm sure. This alone will attract a HUGE number of customers early on, including my family I'm sure. As they build up their network, the holdouts who wanted better coverage will likely be swayed by the better pricing. Again, I don't think it's too late for Google.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 13:05 3

16. lyndon420 (Posts: 1637; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Hope it happens soon.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 15:12 4

18. The_Innovation (Posts: 531; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)


The reign of the greedy wireless companies will soon be at end.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 15:41 3

19. carlosechev07 (Posts: 39; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)


Sign me up, please... it's unacceptable the price that Vullyzon and AT&T force the user to pay for voice+data packages..

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 15:48 1

21. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


a little spontaneous given the fact that it came from an anonymous source, but im also inclined to believe this is real because I really dont see why the "anonymous" person would give that much info and be lying about it......Unless he is a little spontaneous as well and would just want to see this come to pass.......but Im gonna doubt that and go with what seems to be true..........hopefully it is and we all can make america a better place by freeing up peoples wallets a bit for doing what is pretty basic in the first place......making phone calls!

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 16:29 2

22. JaiCameron (Posts: 4; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


Google I can't say this enough but shut up and take my money.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 17:34 1

24. freemarketeer (Posts: 25; Member since: 05 Jun 2010)


There are a couple reasons that I don't think this will happen or that it will and flop. First and foremost are the two key resources to delivering wireless phone service: bandwith and infrastructure. While Dish may have some spectrum, it pales when compared to the amount held other wireless carriers and if they are doing a data only network, they are going to need as much as they can. Then of course you have to build a network out from scratch. That means securing leases, running fiber, erecting towers, configuring antennas, building your switching system and NOC; the whole deal which means that a launch date within 12 months is highly unlikely. All this with capital costs in the billions of dollars. Then of course you have Google directly competing with its domestic carrier partners who more than likely will not be too happy and put as much money and resources into promoting their platform. Now some of you would say "So what? People will just use Google's service instead if they want Android." This is assuming that Google, with a marginal coverage footprint to boot, is able to recapture 100% of the existing Android base from other carriers and these users wouldn't simply switch to a competing platform. This would ultimately undermine the growth of their platform in the US.

This all plays into doing a simple cost benefit analysis of such an idea. Google along with Dish would take on the operating expenses of a wireless network, which for any quality, will run north of $10 billion per year. While Google has been known to do certain things at a loss as it helps their more profitable segments, I doubt they would see enough of an increase to offset that kind of expenditure.

Google is about creating capture points for the data they mine, not the connection to them. If anything, I see possibly a partnership of Dish with Google TV, which makes far more sense rather than taking on the massive task of building out a nationwide wireless network.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 23:47

28. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


they can do it bro.........

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 18:42 3

25. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3643; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I still think they should buy T-Mobile, but I guess Google knows what they're doing.

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 20:09 2

27. VictoriaBrownberry (Posts: 11; Member since: 17 Nov 2012)


Oh cool. Brighter and faster speeds ahead :)

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 01:44 1

29. Sniggly (Posts: 6474; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Give me unlimited data and good coverage and I'm sold.

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 01:56

30. Fuego84 (Posts: 250; Member since: 13 May 2012)


Hell Yeah just like I said data only and talk thur voip. I'm all in.

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 09:45

31. JunBringer (Posts: 95; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)


I hope they just dive right into LTE Advanced and just stick it to the carriers in every way. Super exciting if it's true.

posted on 18 Nov 2012, 22:07

34. mustafansu (Posts: 1; Member since: 18 Nov 2012)


So How much do you think an Iphone would cost on Google wireless :)

posted on 19 Nov 2012, 12:09

35. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


This reminds me of that one carrier that did the same with Sprint. Unlimited everything for really cheap, but bill may spike up if calling too much without wifi and need phones that's certified by them.

I hope if we switch over to them, we could still use our phones.

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