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Update to Android 4.4.1 on Nexus 10 eliminates translucent bars

0. phoneArena 04 Nov 2013, 00:59 posted on

Apparently,Google has had enough of a problem getting Android 4.4 to run on the Nexus 10 tablet, that it will make changes in Android 4.4.1 to eliminate the translucent status on the slate; the translucent bars, basically for navigation and notifications, allow wallpaper to use every pixel on the screen. But making the bars translucent puts more demand on the slate's hardware which is where the Nexus 10 is having troubles...

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posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:05 4

1. mr.techdude (Posts: 541; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


I herd that the nexus 10 battery is not that impresive cause of that high res display.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:03 2

10. xfire99 (Posts: 441; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


Nexus 10 1gen can last whole day on 1 charge, depends on usages and spec says 9H video. Reviews various between 7.5-10H and draw own conclusion.
Nexus 10 2Gen rumours to have 9500mah, possiblity Tegra 4 (ASUS TF701 has it) and how power efficiency its gonna be. Its just w8 and see after it released.
Im satisfied with 10H hard usages and just released god damn tab. I want one now! :p

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 04:03

19. ghaniosman (Posts: 64; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)


Although it's processor's architecture is based on ARM- A15 process but still its a dual-core, that might be one of the reasons..

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:23 2

2. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


That tablet should of had a tegra 3

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:34 8

3. tech2 (Posts: 1879; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Yeah that's right. Why not bring a 40nm chip which is not only older and less powerful than Exynos 5250 but also consumes huge battery to a tablet which is already giving an output of 7 hours of Wifi as against its rival iPad 4 which gives 10 hours of Wifi !

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:44 1

5. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


It had superior GPU. Which the N10 needed for its resolution. The tegra 3 being 40nm doesn't mean much since the N10 had a huge battery. Stop being mad

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:54 7

7. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 462; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Ha haa..... you're wrong buddy, tegra 3 is too weak for 1600p screen. Have you ever seen a tegra 3 tablet with 1600p screen? Mali-t604 are powerful enough to push 1600p screen because according to benchmark, it's slightly faster than adreno 320 which is more powerful than tegra 3.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 04:57 1

22. medicci37 (Posts: 612; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


Are you serious? Tegra 3 would be to weak for 1600p display. You obviously don't know what your talking about

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:01

26. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Are you high?

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 04:08 1

20. tech2 (Posts: 1879; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


1. I am the one being mad XD...yeah right !

2. If you care to mention Google as a 'source' (ROFL) then atleast care to use.

BTW, here is a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHrfPsYn0xA

3. Exynos not only beats Tegra 3 in CPU performance but also in GPU department.

@1:22 Nexus 7 (2012) with Tegra 3 outputs 10FPS in gaming benchmark while Nexus 10 at 35FPS and that is not even accounting the amount of pixels Nexus 10 pushing !

P.S. - No need to act so abnoxious when you're making statements without any knowledge or research !

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 16:24

35. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Google.com

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:36 1

32. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3940; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


That isn't true at all. The GPU in the Tegra 3 couldn't even stand up to the A5 chip in the iPad 2/mini. The Mali-T604 in the Exynos 5250 however beats the A5X chip by a fair margin, essentially making it have over triple the performance of the Tegra 3's GPU.

Source;

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review/2

Based on Egypt HD (Offscreen 1080p), the Nexus 10 has nearly quadruple the score of the Tegra 3, 3.65x to be more accurate. Even with onscreen, where the Nexus 10 has over 4 times the pixels to push, it still has double the performance.

TL;DR - No. Mali-T604 = about 4x Tegra 3.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 16:24

36. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Tegra 3 > Everything you named

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:42 2

4. imMature (Posts: 78; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)


Why? Or did you meant Tegra 4?

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:46 1

6. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Tegra 3. Tegra 4 wasn't available at the time the N10 was launched

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 01:59 2

9. imMature (Posts: 78; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)


well, care to explain why it needed tegra 3? Could it be the other theory by the XDA member that said that it couldn't handle overlays?

Anyway, I don't think that Tegra 3 can handle that 'cause even on the previous Nexus 7, games doesn't really perform smoothly. Well, that could also due to the cheap memory thing or what not.. What makes you think so anyway..

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:09 1

12. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 462; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


I agree with you
Mali t-604>Adreno 320>tegra 3

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:53 1

23. JojoGo101 (Posts: 211; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)


He obviously is just a fan of NVidia.I am too, but not for mobile. The Tegra 3 sucked.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:00

25. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


lol. Not at all

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 08:19

33. tech2 (Posts: 1879; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Whooooops..............Did someone froze your account ? Awwwwwwww..........try harder next time :)

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 16:23

34. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Awwwwww what?

Try again

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:31

29. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


ROFL The Exynos Dual was the only GPU that could run that resolution at the time. Yes, I didn't mean the best solution, which it was, but the ONLY solution. The current Qualcomm S4 PRO clocked out at 1920 x 1200 max resolution and I wouldn't be surprised if the Tegra 3 had the same resolution restriction but even if it didn't, it would have ran it more s**t than it did the Nexus 7 2012 and that only had a 1280 X 800 screen to push.

The Exynos Dual A15 was the ONLY solution powerful enough at the time. Unless they went with a 1920 X 1200 resolution but they still would have been better off using the Exynos either way.

posted on 11 Nov 2013, 16:24

37. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


lol. In your dreams

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:21

15. Klamba92 (Posts: 195; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


So there is a problem with the ability to show full screen on the home screen, and because of that its going to remain like it is on jelly bean?

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 04:53

21. docj8404 (Posts: 72; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)


As a former Nexus 10 owner myself, I think what it comes down to is that the resolution on the Nexus 10 was really just a few months ahead of its time, I think the overall experience would of been much better off with an Exynos 5410 Octa which comes with the PowerVR GPU & DDR3 RAM. I'm aware that this Exynos variant didn't pop up until a few months after the fact, along with the fact this combination wouldn't make this device hiccup free, however I'm convinced this would of prevented a lot of the issues I personally ran into for months including random resets/freezes/stutter due to insufficient memory & the 2 cores/GPU being stretched to it's limits.

Not that Samsung would of opted for any other chipset than it's own for a Wi-Fi only device, but a Tegra 3 was probably barely enough to power the N10 on lol, so considering the only other available option at that time, the S4 Pro, may of worked out OK with a GPU/CPU tweak/over clock to accommodate the Full HD+ display.Unfortunately I no longer have my Nexus 10, so I won't be able to see if some of the hardware shortcomings may possibly be redeemed by the optimizations in 4.4.

Whenever this Nexus 10 refresh is announced, it's great to know that CPU/GPU & other internals have fully caught up to today's flagship tablet displays. Based on the improvements with this years Nexus 7 refresh, I'm sure we can expect the similar important upgrades with the N10.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:11

28. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 763; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Exactly, good to see feedback from someone who owned it, the Nexus 10 as you put it lacks the horsepower to push all those pixels, which is understandable given the tablet's release, heck even Apple had trouble with the iPad 3 being underpowered for its resolution and launched the iPad 4 later the same year. Looking forward to see what will Google do with the Nexus 10, S800 should be enough for it to tick along smoothly.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:39

30. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


You should have waited. After a few updates it became the smoothest device I ever owned. That includes just about everything and is too numerous to list but these are the smoothest devices I have owned HTC 8x, iphone 4s, iphone 5, iphone 5s(although the fly in animation stutters a bit), ipad 2, ipad 3.

But yeah the Nexus 10 performance is still the benchmark for me right now. Never tried the ipad 4 or Air yet and the Nexus 10 performs much smoother than the Xperia Tablet Z imo.

My Nexus 7 2013 still stutters a bit when scrolling through the widget pages in the app drawer while my Nexus 10 never does.

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