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Upcoming quad-core phones recap

0. phoneArena 23 Mar 2012, 09:44 posted on

We list all the announced or expected quad-core phones from the spring crop, and, while you still can't go out and buy a handset with quad-core processor, the moment of truth is drawing near...

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posted on 25 Mar 2012, 07:19

53. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


ok.. /mostly/ mid-ranged devices. =] the stock thunderbolt is a horrible phone. all the HTC One announcements came and went, with no mention of VZW as a landing spot. sorry HTC fans, just telling it like it is.

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 11:10

32. McLTE (Posts: 920; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


What are you talking about?

There is no conspiracy with Verizon or any other US carriers only wanting dual core phones with 4G.. it's a technology thing.

Right now LTE isn't compatible with many of the quad core processors, nor the exynos.. I expect that to all change soon!

I'm very excited to see what the S3 brings as it's supposed to support LTE with Exynos, on their own chip. I just hope it gets better reception than my Nexus!

What I would REALLY like to see, and would buy off contract in a heartbeat is a Samsung Galaxy Note 2.. 5.3" screen, Quad core and LTE. DROOL!

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 11:30 1

6. Tommyp1972 (Posts: 14; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


I'm looking to future proof myself for the next 2 years on my contract and it would seem that a Quad Core..even though right now it can't be fully utilized ..is still the way to go for apps down the road..say in the next year or 2.....

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 11:31

7. Tommyp1972 (Posts: 14; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


but since Verizon and the other 4G carries will only comply with a dual core then I'm stuck in the mud with a Dual Core sadly

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 14:10

15. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Well, quad-core isn't the only way to go... I know chips with 28 nm tech have already beaten the Tegra 3. Not sure when they'll be available, but A15 architecture chips will also catapult dual-cores beyond the quad-cores currently released.

That being said, I think there's hope for quad-core to work with LTE.. I thought Samsung was saying they're going with a quad-core SOC that has the radios built right into it (don't have a link, but I think it was a PA article). The question is what frequencies those radios are, and if they're compatible with US carriers.

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 17:21

34. remixfa (Posts: 14334; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


correct. The T3 and the Exynos 4210 are not LTE capable. Nor is the exynos 4210 42mb/s HSPA+ capable. That is why these chips are unfortunately replaced by crapdragon chips in the states.

The exynos 4212 (A9) Quad and 5250 (A15) have about the same amount of horsepower. Both will be able to use LTE/ HSPA+ as samsung has fixed the issues.

Nvidia is supposedly trying to get LTE to work with the T3, but if not the T4 wont be too long down the pipe.. probaly by Fall.

The S4 is not an A15, dont fall for advertising. It is about as strong as an Exynos 4210 (SGS2) and T3, though the quad cores in the T3 give it advantages over all current dual cores for high end number crunching.

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 18:24

36. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Why do you keep saying the S4 is only as strong as the Exynos when you the number prove that you are wrong? First the Anandtech benmark test told us how strong the S4. But you keep saying the same s**t. What proof do you have? Please show us some number.
I have number for you.
HTC one S Quadrant: 4,828
http://androidandme.com/2012/03/smartphones-2/htc-one-x-and-htc-one-s-benchmark-scores/
Copy and paste it on your URL if the link don't work.
That is more then the SGS2 stock quadrant score.

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 19:51

39. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5712; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


you're putting the 4210 a little out of it's league when comparing it to the Tegra III and the S4 even i have to admit... o:

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 20:03

41. remixfa (Posts: 14334; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ive said it slightly out performs the 4210 multiple times.
But in real world, its not so strong as to say its superior in every way. They are on decently equal ground. Pretty sad for a chip coming out in like may/june 2012 when you can only compare it to a chip that came out may 2011. When the 4212 comes out, the S4 will start to be the bargain chip i keep trying to tell you it is. When the 5250, OMAP4, and T4 comes out, u will stop thinking about the S4.

should i have to repeat myself over and over and over again? its not like anyone listens anyways. You guys believe what-cha want. We can just keep making bets about how powerful the S4 is,and when it comes time, ill just take everyone's money. :)

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 20:49

42. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


How is it slightly strong then the 4410 when it is on par with turn T3?. So you are telling us that scoring more then 1k higher then the 4410 is slightly stronger. So the 4410 is slightly better then the the S3 because outside of HTC devices the S3 score is only 200-300 higher then the 4410.
By the time those chip come out the quad core S4 will be out.

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 21:53 1

43. remixfa (Posts: 14334; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


dude, no one pays attention to quadrant anymore. seriously. its long past its prime. might as well hold some linpack scores up while your at it.

The quadcore S4 isnt slated until christmas 2012 at the earliest, which means it likely wont be out until Q1 2013 with all the normal delays and such. the 4412 quadcore is going to be released at about the same time as the S4 dual core since its being pushed back, if all rumors on both sides are true. The 5250 exynos is supposed to be in their flagship tablet that is being announced about the same time as the SGS3.

Im not interested in continually comparing 2012 chips to 2011, when there is a whole new line up of chips coming out that all smash the 2011 chips. If comparing the 2012 S4 to the 2011 Exynos 4210 makes you happy, then go for it. Exynos is and was king. Its being replaced. That is the nature of the business. Whos the new king? The new exynos 4212 for now, then it will be between the 5250,T4, and the Omap4 depending on what TI brings to the table.
The T3 is an interm chip, just like the S4. They are meant to say "we are first to xxxx", to get brand recognition. Neither chip will last long in their current configuration. The S4 is slated to go through what.. 3 GPU changes in the next 8 months. Thats a lot, even for electronics. This current S4 that you are so defensive about is the transitional chip. here today, gone tomorrow. The only other interm chip slated for this year is the exynos 4212 which will only be around long enough to build up stock in the 5250 line. But of the 3 interm chips (4212, T3, S4), the 4212 is by far the strongest... A9 or not.

like i said, ill happily take bets if you like. we can get a little bet board going and exchange paypal account info. im happy to put my knowledge where my wallet is.

posted on 25 Mar 2012, 12:23

55. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


If no one is interested in quadrant, then why were you the one keep using it? The S4 is not a 50% increase. Please show us that it is a 50%. When you betting superevo you were using quadrant. You keeping say it is only slightly strong but when the data prove that you are wrong, you still say the same stuff all the time.

posted on 25 Mar 2012, 12:45 1

56. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5712; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


you're not taking my money. i know what's up. o:

btw the next SoC in the OMAP series is the 5th not the 4th... xD

posted on 25 Mar 2012, 13:10 1

57. remixfa (Posts: 14334; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


doh, ive been saying 4 this whole thread.. LOL. woopsie amazing that the only guy in the thread that mostly agrees with me is the only person that knows enough to catch that. :)

The only reason i bring up quadrant at all is because its easy to compare numbers since its been around a while. The numbers have changed a bit since quadrant can now use both cores in its benchmarking, where before it wouldnt, so the whole chip gammut needs to be rerun. However, those numbers are easily messed with. The I/O scores are very easily manipulated (which is also what a linpack tests). I've called samsung out on that many times since they like to manipulate I/O on the crapdragon S3 chips.

If you are going to use quadrant, then use the new quadrant paid version for the most accurate (though still not very) version of numbers. Then take the I/O section out completely so that way its testing only total cpu+gpu without the artificial inflation of the total score.
And where did i get 50%?
"On the CPU centric tests Basemark OS is showing anywhere from a 20% - 80% increase in performance over the 1.5 GHz APQ8060 based HTC Rezound."

half way between 20 and 80% = 50% average

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-krait-performance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2

but those numbers were found on Qualcomm's reference design, not in real world chip usage. When the real world usage popped out, it was substantially lower. Yes, still impressive when compared to 2011 chips, but we are in 2012.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one

posted on 25 Mar 2012, 20:44

58. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5712; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah, i'm kind of burnt from Quadrant. Antutu is what i generally use now.

posted on 25 Mar 2012, 21:45 1

59. remixfa (Posts: 14334; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


I use antutu, smartbench, quadrant full (so i can take out the i/o scores..lol) nenamark2, and a few others and just kind of compare them. Im partial to nenamark, just because i like flying around that little tree and house for some reason.. lolz.

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 12:32 3

9. fay99 (Posts: 107; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


Some ipad owners will experience real challenges when trying to understand this article, as the writer had not clearly stated that he's NOT talking about the GPU

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 14:43

21. c.hack (Posts: 613; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)


Cool - quad core for an OS that only handles a single core. You can throw 16 core at Android and live wallpaper will still stall and stutter. Besides 2 hours of battery life instead of 4, droids can now crash faster and run viruses at top speed.

But keep throwing better specs at the problem. Fandroids think more CPUs will fix their bug riddled OS.

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 19:17 1

26. fay99 (Posts: 107; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


hahahaha...dude, you are a very creative barista with zero or even minus knowledge. you are imagining a cell phone is as simple as your coffee machine. you need to stop believing in what you've imagined, or your creativity will lead you believe your mom is a guy one day.

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 17:22 1

35. remixfa (Posts: 14334; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ICS is multicore optimized and GPU optimized. It also gives a large boost in battery life without having to use a massive battery to compensate, unlike iOS5 which took a dive in battery life.

There goes your entire arguement.

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 12:34 1

10. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Don't like the ONE X due to it's non removeavle battery or SD Card Support. I'd rather choose the LG 4X or wait for the SG III

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 12:54

11. dcgore (Posts: 231; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)


SGIII

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 14:44

22. c.hack (Posts: 613; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)


I'm waiting for the SGVII 4G 3D Prime with 20 cores and 2 minutes of battery life.

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 13:07 1

12. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5712; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the only ones i like are the 4X and the SIII. o:

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 14:21 1

19. remixfa (Posts: 14334; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


SGS3 is of course on my top of the list.. then there is a gap.. then everything else. That fujitsu one or whatever it was, looked intriguing.. if not for all the benefits of a big screened quadcore as well as the bigger camera and waterproofing. If it has mod support... in english... it might be a nice runner up.

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 15:25

23. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Arrow>Huawei>One X>LG>SGS3>other one

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 20:16 2

27. twenti7 (Posts: 152; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)


I just realized something. Compare the supposed image of the Galaxy S III here:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Heres-the-latest-on-the-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III_id28305

To the Galaxy S Wi-Fi 4.2 Here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-S-WiFi-4.2_id6968

posted on 23 Mar 2012, 20:56

28. redrooster13 (Posts: 110; Member since: 20 Feb 2012)


Good find... they look almost identical.

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 02:03

29. dekay84 (Posts: 5; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


the only thing that would maybe make the samsung s3 worth the probably insane pricing is if it had the cortex a15 inside it

posted on 24 Mar 2012, 02:09

30. rihel_95 (Posts: 301; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)


thumbs up if u agree dat nokia will enter this race next year!

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