Upcoming MT6592 octa-core chip rivals Snapdragon 800 in benchmarks
0. phoneArena 22 Jul 2013, 09:26 posted on
Mediatek is a name that might not ring a bell but it should. The Chinese chip maker’s roadmap has just leaked out and it shows a monstrous octa-core chip…
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1. fistigons (Posts: 264; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
Looking foward to seeing all the chips compared. Still looking foward to the extra features that Snapdragon 800 is offering. Quick Charge 2.0. Support for GPS IZat GNSS. Also the always-on, low-power voice activation.
I was surprised to hear the Moto X wasn't powered by the 800 since voice commands appear to be the main reason to get that phone.
4. hung2900 (Posts: 847; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
But Mediatek SoC will be very cheap, and cheap with... dual SIM support already (Qualcomm's solution is relatively expensive)
13. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Congrats to MediaTek for a useless chip, when everything except benchmarks are single-threaded!
15. _Bone_ (Posts: 2146; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Congrats to TheLolGuy for a useless comment.
21. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Care to refute my point instead? Oh right, I guess your comment is just as useless, huh. Touche.
27. sorcio46 (Posts: 420; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
You're right man,
more cores = more troubles with bad optimized code
28. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Precisely. The newer versions of Android still have to account for lower spec'd phones, so it uses two cores. Now, the Play Store has almost one million apps, and how many do you think has a team of developer geniuses able to code parallel for two cores, let alone 8? The more cores you utilize the more of a nightmare it is to find the errors and fix them.
So 95% of the time you're going to be sitting on 6 cores that would be collecting dust if not tightly sealed inside. This is nothing but to grab headlines, and as the Qualcomm CEO said before, the core wars are pointless.
36. rdeleonp (Posts: 44; Member since: 21 Jan 2012)
Android 4.3 is the start to put all those cores and more to good use.
31. sapibuntinx (Posts: 55; Member since: 08 May 2013)
I had to agree with this statement. Many developers still doesn't know how to design and optimize their programs with paralel processing
23. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Taiwan is the Republic of China. Big difference.
22. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
China is mainand China or People's Republic of China.
Taiwan is either an independent nation due to Japan giving up its rights after WWII (Japan had acquired Taiwan after the Sino-Japan War) or if you believe the Communist mainland Chinese, then Taiwan is a renegade province. Taiwan is known as the Republic of China. While the people of Taiwan are descents of the mainland, the ethnic Taiwanese is a separate and distinct race same as Americans and Native Americans, respectively.
Mediatek is a Chinese company in a perjorative sense. I beleve they would like to call themselves a Taiwanese Company, instead.
24. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
I just checked MediaTek's website for a company description. http://www.mediatek.com/_en/02
Here's what they said: "Founded in 1997 and listed on Taiwan Stock Exchange under the code "2454", MediaTek is headquartered in Taiwan and has sales or research subsidiaries in Mainland China, Singapore, India, U.S., Japan, Korea, Denmark, England, Sweden and Dubai."
Notice how they dodge the "Chinese" issue but make it clear that the Company is listed on the Taiwan Stock Exchange and has subsidiaries in Mainland China.
Food for thought.
30. cheetah2k (Posts: 1012; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
So its a Taiwanese company with Chinese affilliations :p
3. rd_nest (Posts: 1054; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Useless. For Android (or other mobile OS), most apps still don't take proper advantage of multiple cores. Most of them don't scale linearly with number of cores. Performance per core is much more important factor.
5. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
How's the battery drain, though?
And just because there A7's doesn't mean they'll be more effective than big.LITTLE. A7's have to work much harder to get the same performance has an A15, so just using a more effective architecture (and primitive) isn't going to make performance better (especially given performance on the A7 hits a wall that, even when over clocked, can't match the A15).
6. livyatan (Posts: 833; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Ah, Victor and his pearls again.
Since when is snapdragon 800 below 29600 score?
Its Antutu score goes up to 34000.
Anyway, I'm calling the future ideal CPU setup for phones.. six A53 cores at 2.0Ghz and two A57's at 3Ghz with fully scalable core migration, done with 14nm process.
25. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
If you cared about per core performance you would buy intel.
29. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Maybe next mobile gen. But the Z2580 doesnt impress me. Good things coming though.
8. zombiewolf115 (Posts: 38; Member since: 16 Jul 2013)
i fail to see the need for so many cores. honestly a phone could be a dual core. but if the software and ui is all buttery smooth it really has no need for 8 cores. we are running phones. not gaming desktops
19. JMartin22 (Posts: 1515; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
You mean if the OS software is optimized? "Buttery smooth" sounds kind of... silly.
11. lhtbinh1909 (Posts: 85; Member since: 02 Apr 2013)
More RAM, more internal memory, more anything but CPU cores. Smartphones are not computer and never will be. That's the point
17. MistB (Posts: 581; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Nope, they will be and are and smartphones are not really phones anymore either.
16. will1956 (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)
Has nobody noticed the obvious: the mediatek processor needs 8 cores to beat the quad core snapdragon 800 processor
18. mike2959 (Posts: 358; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Nobody freak out with what I'm about to say, but it's the SOFTWARE people, the SOFTWARE! The number of Cores will be 16 in 2 year's, yet there will be lag, force closes etc...
20. JMartin22 (Posts: 1515; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
Well, continual technological improvement in SoCs (CPU/GPU) will allow for heavy future proofing of more demanding software content such as video games; but no amount of computational power will mend the typical issues of latency and crashes when it comes to a poorly optimized and written OS. This regards any software in general; not just Android.
32. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
What are talking about the S800 score any where from 32k to 35k. So how does it beat the S800 again?