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USPTO gets one right! Rejects Apple's pinch-to-zoom patent claim

0. phoneArena 29 Jul 2013, 11:48 posted on

We don't often say many good things about the US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO), because we don't think the office does much good in the world of software patents. Frankly, we're not sure software patents should exist at all, because they don't seem to lead to much other than wasted court fees. Still, as much as we criticize, we do need to point out when the USPTO gets one right, and the USPTO has rejected Apple's pinch-to-zoom patent claim...

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posted on 29 Jul 2013, 11:51 33

1. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Tsk tsk...Apple can't pinch exclusively anymore.
Had it coming!!!

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 11:52 26

2. Diego! (Posts: 642; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


About time! You suck that punch, Apple! Sammy, your move!

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 11:52 13

3. Bootutu (Posts: 228; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Wonderful news! a lot more to follow, most notably the notification center

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 11:54 31

4. ZeroCide (Posts: 777; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


WOW!!! There are people at the USPTO not being paid off by Apple!

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 11:55 5

6. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14180; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


That was never a valid claim.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:00 28

7. tedkord (Posts: 12225; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Actually, all 21 claims were never valid.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:06 6

11. ZeroCide (Posts: 777; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


It doesn't have to be a vaild claim for it to be true. There are quite a few total BS patents that Apple filed that were approved. Seems like someone at the USPTO was getting paid off.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 15:37 5

26. SellPhones82 (Posts: 569; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


Like the invention of the round-cornered rectangle? Where would we be today if Apple had not graced us with that wonderful shape?! Someones kids are getting a real good College education somewhere.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:51 1

18. donfem (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


If it was never valid, why was it filed? Why was it apprved initially?

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 20:52

40. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


YES. now hopefully they would DROP OTHER LAW SUITS from Apple so we can get back making good technology

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 11:54 1

5. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14180; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


So is taking away something apple did unique a pity gesture from the uspto?

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:01 25

8. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Are you for real?
The only unique thing Apple did was turn a fruit into a machine.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:02 31

9. tedkord (Posts: 12225; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, it's the correct conclusion, as pinch to zoom is not only obvious, it was demonstrated by others before the iPhone launched our the patent application was submitted.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 19:49 1

37. OnlyiPhone (unregistered)


No it wasn't pinch to zoom is only capable on capacitive touch screens and its mo secret apple made capacitive screens popular and was the first to have pinch to zoom... I don't agree patenting a shape but different processes of your phone if you do it first patent it google should've patented the notification tray they pretty much invented that

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 02:03

42. tedkord (Posts: 12225; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


First, Apple was not the first to have a capacitive screen. The Prada had one before it. Second, pinch to zoom was absolutely demonstrated before the iPhone. Microsoft was using it on their Surface table computer well before the iPhone.

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 06:12

45. OnlyiPhone (unregistered)


If you read what I said I said iPhone made capacitive screens popular I never said they were first.... And they were the first smartphone with pinch to zoom.....what sells more a table computer or an iPhone I believe an iPhone

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 03:04

43. Just.Me (Posts: 23; Member since: 24 Apr 2013)


Didn't samsung make the screens for apple. So, If im correct, apple only made pinch to zoom popular thanks to samsungs screen technology. Then again, I could be wrong

posted on 30 Jul 2013, 03:34

44. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


There were previous implementations of zooming using two points in screens using visual input instead of capactity screens.
That makes the pinch to zoom in a capacity screen nothing more than a logical evolution of the pinch to zoom using visual recognition.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:05

10. Bootutu (Posts: 228; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


You are weird...Goosebumps!

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:07 9

12. Zeus.k (unregistered)


Now if they could look into some of more pathetic patents by Apple and could get them all rights. Anyway good job done by uspto.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:20 5

13. PhoneCritic (Posts: 694; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Is it correct to say Samsung Just won its appeal and Judge Lucy will have no recourse but to throw out the 1 billion dollar verdict and consider the case closed as no patent is being violated? Or were there any other claims that Apple had against Samsung/Google?

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:56

20. stealthd (unregistered)


No. One patent being invalidated didn't throw out the rest of the patents and trademarks Samsung was found to have violated.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 13:13

21. PhoneCritic (Posts: 694; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Thank you. Do you know what other patents that were claimed to be violated?

As far as I recall it had to do with the overall design on some older models and the bounce back feature which I heard ( don't know if this is true) was rectified by a update that corrected the said violation.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 14:00 1

25. tedkord (Posts: 12225; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It helps Samsung. Also, the rubber banding patent was initially invalidated, and to save it Apple had to redo the claims, and Samsung filed for a retrial on that patent based on the products not violating the new claim.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:27 6

14. jove39 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


That's good...in touch enabled devices pinch-to-zoom is very obvious gesture so right move by USPTO.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:39 5

15. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


WHAT??????????????...
they use common sense and their eyes!!..yay!

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:44

16. alpinejason (Posts: 262; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)


They did it first but who knows if it is good to patent anyhow

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 18:07 3

30. tedkord (Posts: 12225; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


They didn't do it first. There are YouTube videos of researchers using pinch to zoom a full year before the iPhone or the patent filing.

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:48

17. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


wow what a biased article title. come on PA continue to divide your readers. smh

posted on 29 Jul 2013, 12:53 9

19. donfem (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


What's your point? Article states the nullification of an invalid claim...So?

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