USPTO: Apple's '949 patent, aka the "Steve Jobs patent", is invalid
0. phoneArena 07 Dec 2012, 16:46 posted on
Following up on October's ruling that Apple's rubber-banding patent (the overscroll bounce) is invalid, another Apple patent, this time the '949 so called "Steve Jobs" patent has been found invalid; ironically, Samsung was found to have infringed on both patents before they were ruled invalid...
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1. Droiddoes (unregistered)
15. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Good news! And I think that USPTO should review all Apple patents, I'm pretty sure that they would find even more invalid patents.
22. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
iTotally disagree!! How is Apple supposed to innovate if all of their patents from stolen ideas are found invalid. I'm looking at the bigger picture of iPhone 15VD and, quite honestly, it would be nice to have Multi Window functionality on a Super Retina 4.2" screen; or, it would be super cool to be able to edit photos with special messages in iNotes; and, I'm really looking forward to being able to FaceTime over 4GS LTE. None of this will be possible if all of their patents are iNvaliDated. Besides, what I don't understand is why haven't they iNvaliDated the black turtle-neck??
25. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
+1 from me, That is true, well said, Lmao....!
27. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1236; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Well now it just seems that Apple will have to do real work just like the rest of us honest folks to earn their money. It just looks like if they want to sustain themselves they will have to just start innovating...and this time for real in tech and not lawsuits :)
41. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
Yes, rotten patents of rotten Apple must be invalidated...... Time to forget about non innovative and inferior Apple's products...
45. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Non innovative? So why does Samsung and other companies continue to copy them?
47. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
I really don't know why Apple is a copycat with statusbar and almost all the new iOS 5 6 features has copied from Android ;-)
50. tedkord (Posts: 11659; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The answer is simple. They don't. Folks like yourself simply rationalize it that way because you can't accept the truth - that Apple stopped innovating after the first iPhone, and the competition has passed them like they're standing still.
44. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
This is bad for business. They have those patents for a reason.
48. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
Yes, just to bully innovations......
We have multi user API, photo sphere..... iPhone is still stuck as a icon board..... Enjoy :-)
49. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"This is bad for business."
Fo Apple business.
"They have those patents for a reason."
Of course Apple have them for a reason and no one deny it but those patents are invalid.
52. tedkord (Posts: 11659; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
A patent is required by law to be for something new, unique, innovative, worth no prior art. These patents (and many more of Apple's) do not meet that standard.
53. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Those patents are for running a business of "Extortion" and that's why they are being invalidated at last :)
2. KickRocks (Posts: 166; Member since: 22 Mar 2011)
As this patent and the bounce back patent weren't dumb enough, its time to invalidate slide to unlock and these ridiculous design patents. If the USPTO would stop issuing every single patent apple files for half if not most of these lawsuits and hunded of wasted man hours could be avoided. Long live the bot!!
3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Apple may not see even $300 million, given this invalidity. The trial verdict may end up a Pyrrhic victory.
38. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Also.... The Apple-HTC settlement may be of no further effect. Too much redaction of the publicly available copy to tell, but.... If so, HTC may be better served to breach the agreement and just move on. I wonder if HTC is considering asking Apple for a refund?
5. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Ha! This is some news! Glad to see the USPTO is stepping up and invalidating bogus patents.
46. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12979; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
The only thing bogus here is the decision.
7. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
And it should have been invalid. I mean cmon.....Apple didnt invent it or innovate it enough to call it their own.
That 1 billion settlement certain fans bragged about....some of us said it isnt over yet....lol. I see that amount getting alot smaller.
8. techguy22 (Posts: 227; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
about time. start going after every apple stupid patents.
10. roscuthiii (Posts: 2217; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
I suppose a Reality Distortion Field is similar to any other bubble... they're all subject to popping/deflation eventually.
I envision some groggy clerks at the USPTO waking up, rubbing their eyes, looking down at their paperwork and thinking to themselves, "Ohh, what did I do last night? Hey... Hey who stamped this? I did?! The frig was I thinkin'?!"
11. amiaq (Posts: 509; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
"I was too drunk", "It just happened", "It was a mistake", "It's not what you think"....bla bla bla
12. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Where's the Apple Attorney by name of myxpytx (or something like that) on this board ?
13. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
Samsung: Everyone Let's boogie!!!!
Christmas came a little bit early for them.
14. ncv144 (Posts: 126; Member since: 04 May 2012)
A van is rectangular, with rounded corners, comes in black and white, has a glass screen, and slide to unlock, Apple MUST lawsuit and ban! /s
16. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
This is why I said htc sold their souls to the devil. I got down voted.
19. lyndon420 (Posts: 4373; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
That's what I said as well. And the thumbs down I got were crazy.
17. ausnote2 (Posts: 84; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
The good US of A is finally waking up. Others to invalidate
-slide to unlock
-rubber banding (it's like a door stopper that when pull all the way to the end it bounces back)
-etc etc etc
the USPTO change of first to file instead of first to invent probably cause a flood of these ridiculous patents crap and spawn alot of patent trolls. It is sad that apple is participating in this garbage though.
If nothing is done, it will stifle US innovations and make US uncompetitive. Imagine a young engineer trying to create a new OS software and hardware and the amount of legal minefield that they must cross???
Don't get me wrong apple does provide competition which is good. But would we get here today without apple? ABSOLUTELY.
I actually really like windows mobile 6.5 until stupid microsoft kill it with close off windows mobile 7 and then kill it with close off windows 8.
windows mobile 6.5 reminds me of Android and both would be successful if microsoft continue with their UI and icons instead of these tiles crap.
Bring back windows mobile 6.5 and enhance it with modern cpu/gpu/ram/screen capabilties is the only way to save microsoft.
29. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Take the rubber banding off your list. That was the first one to get invalidated recently.
18. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
oh look another patent on the Samsung vs apple case gets torn down, more evidence of a faulty case
21. tedkord (Posts: 11659; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Common sense from the USPTO? Is today April 1st?
26. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Yea where's Mxyzptlk Jstahl Gallitoking Serious9010 ......?
36. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well I am happy because I know one way or the other Apple will stand tall
39. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3759; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Was tall, was tall...now it's shrinking buddy.
57. tedkord (Posts: 11659; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
They always stand tall because they have no shame. Steve Jobs stood tall on stage and proclaimed that Apple had invented multi-touch. Apple lawyers stood tall in court and posited that a tap was just a zero length swipe. They stood tall in line at the patent office as they claimed slide to unlock as their own.
30. xfire99 (Posts: 829; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
David Kappos eat this and there is nothing wrong with USPTO software patent uh. Working as intended my ass.
The whole world see its f**ked up and u say it working as intended. Yeah sure!
Keep invalidate all bogus patents, not only Apples and maybe theres still hopes for USPTO.
40. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
This was probably set in motion while he was still in office. Just sayin'.
34. ddeath (Posts: 167; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)
Looks like David Kappos resignation is doing USPTO a good thing. They really need a overhaul of their patents approvals. Enough of stupid patents!
35. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3759; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Steve Jobs got a freakin' patent to his name???
37. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
they have no respect to his patent... have more respect people
42. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
But you have respect to stupidity :-)
43. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
"Even though that trial was canceled, Judge Richard Posner banned the use of the name "Steve Jobs patent" when referring to '949' before tossing the case"
I think that shows respect. Try looking past the blinders once in awhile. Or did you want it to be called that? For it getting invalidated.....it is what it is. Hopefully soon the lawsuits stop. Compete by innovating not litigating..
56. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
NO ONE HAVE RESPECT FOR A COMPANY THAT WANTS TO BAN OR CONTROLS products
58. tedkord (Posts: 11659; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The patent deserved no respect. It was just a rehash of someone else's work.
51. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
Tim Cook to uspto: You mean we actually have to work now?
55. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
USPTO finally got their dumb minds right for once. Now we need TO GET RID SLIDE TO UNLOCK PATENT CRAP to END ALL PATENS and not just the SLIDE TO UNLOCK but RECTANGLES