US getting an America-sized Nokia Lumia in early 2012
BGR reports that the model for the US will not be the Nokia Lumia 800 that we've seen selling out in the UK. Rather, the US will get a supersized Nokia Lumia 900, which will feature a 1.4 GHz processor, a 4.3" ClearBlack AMOLED display, and an 8 MP camera. The phone will also reportedly ship with Windows Phone Tango, which seems odd, because everything we had heard about Tango painted it as the WP version for lower-end devices, which certainly doesn't describe the Lumia. All of this info does match the specs we had heard about the Nokia 900, which had been codenamed Ace, so it's possible they are the same phone. If so, that would point to this device being made available on AT&T or T-Mobile, as it has been rumored to include HSPA+, not to mention AT&T has the best selection of Windows Phone devices in the US.
According to BGR's source, there will be a "huge marketing blitz" in January and February and the device should launch sometime after CES 2012 in January. No word yet on a price range, but at least we know when to expect it in the US.
29. apocalypsebc (Posts: 146; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
And it better damn come to Sprint and Verizon because it also has been rumored to support CDMA and LTE! If and thats a strong if, if it dont come to Sprint then I will have to settle with my HTC Arrive a little longer and hopefuly Samsung or Nokia will have a phone/tablet like the Samsund Galaxy Note but running WP8 with a quad core processor. HTC isn't playing with amoled yet and even though they have the best keyboard, with a screen the size of 5.4 and with an amoled display there wont be a need for a keyboard anymore. Plus a phone/tablet is the best of both worlds and WP8 will be close to Windows 8 ;-)
2. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Now that's confusing. Maybe it's some kind of Lumia 800 version for us market?
4. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2604; Member since: 26 May 2011)
It is a bump up from the Lumia 800 (hence the number 900) with a bigger screen.
19. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
I thought the Nokia 900 was the Nokia Ace. Maybe add some 4G (real or wannabe) and a FFC. I know I would be in if they did
23. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2604; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Yeah, Ace was the codename of the rumored device. Not sure it\'s the same as this, but the specs all match, and the Ace was the Nokia 900, whereas this is the Nokia Lumia 900, so it would make sense.
3. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
there is nothing that said that the next update wouldn't happen to ALL windows phones, only that it will allow compatabilities for low end phones. If they want to keep from being fragmented, then every WP7 phone will be on the same OS, regardless of if some of the main new features are meant for that exact device. Im sure there is more to the next update than just allowing lower resolutions/ screen sizes.
that all said,
bring it! :) We have a building here in Jax that would be great for that light display they did.. and its on the water too. :) Im all for a 20 story tall tech display. :)
5. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
I think when they said it'll ship with Tango they meant the video calling app not 'Tango' as in the update. It's just an assumption.
7. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2604; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Given that Microsoft owns Skype, it seems unlikely it would ship with the Tango video calling app.
13. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
"Tango" as refered to by Microsoft is a version of Windows Phones optimized for lower end phones. Microsoft and Nokia are looking at the markets where the Symbian line sold well at lower price points. They still want a good OS experience that will keep that segment. I am sure a 900 line in the US and elsewhere will carry the Mango and Apollo versions, not Tango.
6. lubba (Posts: 1309; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
One good news so far but need more than this to give up my HD7. Will look forward to news and rumors regarding Apollo update and wp with HD screen and improved camera.
8. buggerrer (Posts: 277; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
Great. Another giant phone with a huge 4.3" display. Smartphones are getting impractically large.
See my discussion thread here:http://www.phonearena.com/phon
10. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Except they are the size selling the best in the U.S. So a large segment seems fine with 4.3" and larger.
14. buggerrer (Posts: 277; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
I know, it\'s hard to argue with good sales. But that doesn\'t mean that the larger size is practical - it just proves that Americans are conned into thinking bigger is better.
Nevertheless, I still feel that the size is a little too large to be truly mobile and pocketable. If you have to take it out of your pocket everyime you sit down because it\\\'s uncomfortable, it might be too big.
Of course, this argument will disappear when fold-able screens come along. Smart-flipphones all the way!
15. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i wouldnt say conned..
i would say.. bigger is easier to use. thats my personal preference. i think 4-4.3 is my personal sweet spot right now. as bezels shrink and buttons dissapear that sweet spot can get bigger.
16. buggerrer (Posts: 277; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
You\'re right; bigger IS easier to use. For example, it\'s easier to use a Tablet than a Smartphone. My argument is that bigger might not practical for this kind of device and its method of usage.
Ask yourself for what purpose(s) you use your smartphone. Certainly email and messaging. Most likely web browsing, navigation and apps. Listening to music and maybe watching the odd video when you\'re stuck at the airport or doctor\'s office.
Do any of these functions absolutely REQUIRE an enormous screen to get the job done? Certainly, these tasks are made easier with more screen real estate, but are said tasks so impossible to accomplish with a smaller screen?
Larger screens mean higher cost, faster battery drain and reduced mobility. Slick marketing has convinced us that these tradeoffs are perfectly acceptable if it means having the latest and great tech in our pockets.
Smarter information design and better resolution screens could help us accomplish everything we want with having to haul a brick around in our pockets.
20. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
You describe the screen as enormous, which is a great use of language to support your argument. However consider this point of yours
"Do any of these functions absolutely REQUIRE an enormous screen to get the job done? Certainly, these tasks are made easier with more screen real estate, but are said tasks so impossible to accomplish with a smaller screen? "
You can watch T.V. on a 2 inch screen if you so desire, but why settle for less?
As far as mobility goes, that's opinion. Depends on how you carry your device.
Your argument about the cost of larger screens isn't significant, as there are 3.7 inch devices that have worse battery life than 4.5 inch devices. There is a lot more than screen that goes into battery life, as you probably already know.
21. buggerrer (Posts: 277; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
\"You can watch T.V. on a 2 inch screen if you so desire, but why settle for less?\"
Why settle for less? This is exactly my point. We\'ve been conditioned to believe that bigger is better. Only watch one or two videos a day? Screw it, you deserve a bigger screen.
I think we can get by with less, if people would only just take a moment and really think about how they use their device.
Would you buy a BMW if you only drove 4 miles a day? Would you buy a restaurant-grade stove if you eat out 5 nights a week?
I\'m losing my enthusiasm for this whole thing. Maybe i\'ll pick it up again when screens start approaching 5\".
33. robinrisk (unregistered)
Well, everything is more comfortable on a 4.3 inch screen compared to a 4" or a 3.5".
I had a SGSI and i moved to a Photon and the difference is unbelievable without sacrificing any comfort holding the phone. The SGSII version for Sprint and Tmobile and the Skyrocket are too wide for my taste though.
17. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
I agree with you, though I do have large hands. Even my mother, who is by no means large, has the HTC Sensation bearing a 4.3inch screen. She says its very easy to use and quite comfortable.
You of course are entitled to your opinion. IMO, you should try getting a belt case; I find it much easier than having the phone in the pocket. Even when I had my tiny Nokia 6300 i preferred the phone case as it is so much more accessible than when the phone is buried in my pocket.
When one wants to use his phone for something other than a phone- web browsing, watching movies, viewing pictures, gaming etc.- bigger often does mean better
27. lubba (Posts: 1309; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
In the entertainment world, bigger is better. 4-4\"7 inches is perfect. Question who puts their phone in pockets?
9. orielwindow (Posts: 85; Member since: 23 Sep 2010)
Sigh.....no love for Verizon when it comes to windows phones.
12. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Verizon was very well represented at Nokia World. Have no fear. Microsoft wants WP's our Nations largest carrier.
Sprint, on the other hand, concerns me....
11. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
This was kicked around months ago. Looking excited to see what Nokia brings to our shores.
18. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
And just in time too, My aging HD2 has just acquired a new addition to its state of disarray. A fine crack extending from one corner to the other.
22. 7thspaceman (Posts: 843; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I read that the Tango update gives Windows 7.5 smart Phones the power to work on LTE networks. it appears to be that an OEM can select what upgrades they want from the Tango updates and disregard what they do not want. Nokia wants the LTE capability from Tango and will use it on some Nokia phones to be sold in America USA
24. Stacey (Posts: 4; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Bought the Lumia 800 three weeks ago (have several smartphones with different OS).
Pretty impressed, superb design, curved polarized screen, ultra fluid and fast execution. Great UX.
I wasn't the biggest WP fan, but I have changed my mind.
Many of my friend using SGSII and Ip4 and 4s tried it, they were impressed. First by the design and feeling, and then by WP mango and the ultra fluid and fast experience.
25. SeniorEd (Posts: 15; Member since: 16 Feb 2011)
The Tango update to WP7, NOT the video calling app, is supposed to give support to lower screen resolutions as well as add support for LTE, think Verizon. I agree with an earlier comment that the lower screen resolutions will probably come to play for phones with smaller screens. Also, the tango update is an OS update so it should be on all Windows phones.
The Lumia 900 should be a big hit on US shores! Can\'t wait for Apollo and multi-core support. Wonder what Nokia has in store for Windows Phone during Q3 and Q4 of 2012. Should be sweet. -Ed out.
30. apocalypsebc (Posts: 146; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
You are correct Ed! I see myself buying two Windows phone in the future. I have the HTC arrive with Sprint and even though they make the best keyboard, I want a bigger screen. HTC also was doing great in that department as well but now other manufactures are doing it and great! If Sprint can get the Nokia phone along with Verizon I’m sold. The rumor is that it will support CDMA and LTE. Plus there isn't competition between the two carriers. Now with that out the way, my second phone will be a phone/tablet! Apollo supposed to support quad-core or and other great features. It also supposed to be the update for Windows Phone 8 and be compatible with Windows 8. If Nokia or Samsung make this phone/tablet thing happen with the nice amoled screen like Samsung did with the SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE but running WP8, I’m sold. It's bye-bye HTC, unless they start playing with amoled ;-)
26. T00muchF00D (Posts: 94; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)
If this is true then im upset. I been saving my money for the lumia 800
not for some stupid idea of a larger and under powered lumia. Im gonna get mine shipped from over seas then. Omg this is aggravating
28. vvelez5 (Posts: 623; Member since: 29 Jan 2011)
Come on release it already I want this phone.
31. BlazinEmperor (Posts: 35; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)
You call a Symbian phone "Low End" ??? Really?? It shows that you've never owned one! There's no Symbian^3/ Anna or Belle powered phone that costs below $250 unlocked! Nokia used to make "low end" Symbian phones in the days of S60v3/5 which was in 2008/2009. But Symbian^3 changed everything in 2010, cause it can only run on mid-range hardware.
32. noknsyder (Posts: 4; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
This is the "Ace" Lumia 900. AT&T and will be the first LTE WP7 Handset! All specs are correct but it is missing front facing camera which it will have. Also it will ship with WP Tango update. Look out, its coming! You can put this in stone.
34. rsiders (Posts: 193; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Quite possibly the best news I've heard in a while. Even better if this phone is coming to the T-Mobile carrier as well. Also still waiting for HTC to pick up the Titan which could still hapen. Which ever event occurs first I guess but I'm in. I'm excited.