US carriers driving a hard bargain over the Samsung Galaxy S II, says executive
0. phoneArena 08 Jul 2011, 04:34 posted on
"Negotiations with American telecom companies have dragged on" about the Samsung Galaxy S II arrival on US shores, one Samsung executive was quoted saying. Motorola's handsets are preferred as more experienced with CDMA connectivity, it seems...
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143. rocko0011 (Posts: 33; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
People don't have to line up for days to buy an android because android knows how to make money by not limiting themselves to 1 phone manufacture. That is where Apple fails. That's why it'll never be on top. It can only be 2nd, and in my book, 2nd is the 1st place loser.
48. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3449; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
taco50 someone else just found out how puny your little iSheep brain is. ilia1986 now you know how the iSheep brains work! LMAO. iSheep never see the light, they are so governed by Steve Jobs that if he were to say jump taco50 would be like "how high Shepherd Jobs”! taco50 you might need to take a breather! lol You are definitely tired! lol
54. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
How old are you. Your post doesn't even make sense.
61. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3449; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
My post makes perfect sense. taco50 don't cry dry your eye. YOU are asking ME how old I am when you type ilia1986 as idiot1986. Really? Don't get mad when people just your own tactics against you! lol How old are you? lol
105. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
And we could clearly see how your Fhagdroid brain works as well :)
If we're governed by Steve, then I guess you are governed by google. And when google asks you to "jump Fhagdroid", you'd also ask them "how high do you want me to jump your googleness". Again, you keep on forgetting that what you tell us can also be applied to you. But you obviously are a slow thinker. Oh well, can't expect much from Fhagdroids :)
110. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
You are a child.
But of course it's okay because you put an h.
119. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3449; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
530gemini you can copy me it's flattering. Thanks I didn't know you cared! lol Android fans don't have a religious feeling toward Android. This was on the news papers, radio, & CNN! I am not making this up! Scientist are studying the iSheep mind because it reflects a religious feeling toward Apple. So scientist want to study this because of the way iSheep act not because it is rumor but because it’s the truth. It's almost to a cult like level. So again when your Shepherd Steve Jobs asks you to jump YOU the iSheep, scientists want to study will say how high. lol We Android fans don't have this stigma toward Android. lol So try to copy that! lol
135. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Don't be flattered SuperFhagdroid. I had to stoop really low to your level for me to do that. So when it's us Apple fans, it's a religion, if it's you android fans, you're just a user, lol. What's the difference between our feeling towards iOS and your feeling towards android? NOTHING. You're attacking Apple users and we're just defending. That makes you worse. And what would you call your aggressive behavior towards Apple users and your undying love for android? Just an interest? Hypocrite. And what phone did that scientist own? Probably an android phone. He's probably a Fhagdroid like you :) I mean who in their right mind would even bother to conduct such a crazy study? A Fhagdroid like you of course :)
53. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
My quote is called sarcasm you idio1986
Android doesn't have 50% markets are worldwide. You're making up facts. The last 3 months it had 38% in e US. android has a bigger markets are in the US than most other countries. Also as pointed out android is an OS and iPhone is a phone. If you want to compare iOS to android OS Apple has a bigger markets share. Don't make up facts you worthless troll.
57. ilia1986 (unregistered)
lol taco, learn to read:
"Android has 50% more market share worldwide?"
keyword - more. More than iPhone. OMGZ how can that be? iPhonez teh besterz1111!!!oneone
That's sarcasm alright.
And yes I AM comparing Android vs iPhone, because it's like comparing Android vs iOS - since you know - iPhone's the only phone which has iOS. And people in 2011 don't but Samsung or HTC or LG phones. They buy Android phones - or iPhones - or other stuff. This is based on the OS - and the exact brand is secondary to it.
lol SuperAndroid gotta agree with you. Seems like iFanatics just don't understand reason and logic. They should prolly go to AA - Applefanatics Anonymous.
71. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Android doesn't have 50% more share than iOS either. In fact iOS has a bigger user base than android.
No one walks into a store and says give me an android phone. They say I want the charge or the evo or the thunderbolt.
Brand is first and you come out looking more and more idiotic each post.
65. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Wait a minute. I'm getting the impression here that you want Apple's existence to revolve around YOU. Apple's conservative approach pisses YOU off? And Apple should what? Send you a letter of apology for not doing things the way you want them to? Wow. Hey listen. You need to stop thinking that planet earth revolves around YOU. Apple's business decisions are their own. Not yours. You are not Apple's founder. If their way of business does not appeal to you, then don't buy their products. Don't get upset when other users like Apple products. What works for us may not work for you, vice versa. You need some anger management class, lol.
67. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
This "smart" iOS user says I quote "APPLE SUCKS!!!"
Is that what you people think that iPhone users should go around saying how much it sucks and they can't wait tovget android?
58. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
So if an iphone user thinks that iOS is fine, he's an idiot? What would you call then an android user who thinks that android is fine? And how is android 3x better than iOS? And what's a "sandwitch"? Is that a new android os? Lol.
You're just hating. And you need to stop the hate and respect other people's choices that has nothing to do with you.
If iOS sucks so much as you deem it to, then that would lead to Apple's demise. No one would be buying it. No one would care for it. But yes, it won't matter if the iphone5 would have quad core or 20mp camera. Not because of its software, because no matter how good the iphone5 will be, you will just keep on hating it. Haters will hate ;)
63. ilia1986 (unregistered)
- Yes, because Android is 2x - 3x better than iPhone - and last I heard - it's constantly evolving. Mainly due to the fact that it's open source and everyone makes mods, skins, tweaks and widgets for it.
- if you don't know what I mean when I say "sandwich" you have no right to speak, I'm afraid. Being oblivious to the competition is one of the characteristics of the...
- iSheep - which always buy anything that Apple makes - regardless of quality - and the sole reason in my - and many other people's opinion that this company still exists today.
And haters will hate - but I'm not a hater. I just hate it when people like taco are seemingly satisfied with the obviously low amount of features iOS has when compared to Android.
Remember 2009? 2010? When I said that Nokia will go down soon - and that symbian is dead - and all the symbian\nokia fans just spilled s**t on me? Well - look where we are now. LOVE to tell you all - told you so!
68. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
The last you heard? You mean you haven't experienced it yourself? You just heard it from someone else? Lol. And we're supposed to take that as the truth?
Look, android is obviously doing a good job competing with Apple. They're selling well. But it's not good enough to make everyone switch to android. If android is indeed 3x better than iOS, Apple would've filed bankcruptcy by now don't you think? But the fact that the iphone is still the #1 seller, says a lot about how good the iphone is still.
Why would taco's satisfaction with his iphone upset you? Lol. I could give you a number of qoutes from several philosophers that will say that less is at times better.
Well I also said that Symbian will go down soon. So I was right as well :)
69. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Mods skins and widgets add no functionality. It's like painting your room a different color.
iPhone can do everything android can do.
The argument that Apple is one of the most successful companies in the world because supposedly there's this worldwide cult of sheep that buy anything Apple tells them to is idiotic. If you don't make a good product word gets around and people stop buying it. The fact that people love Apple products shows they make a good product.
Were you a sheep in 2010 when you bought your iPhone?
73. ilia1986 (unregistered)
lol okay I give up.. arguing with iSheep is indeed pointless.
I will wait for my contract to be over - then I will most likely sell the phone of a company which I was defending up until WWDC 2011 - and switch to Android. And then I'm going to ridicule every single iPhone lover - because less is not more when it comes to technological superiority.
I guess that's how "Fandroids" are born - they are just disgruntled ex-iPhone users who realized the sad truth.
76. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3449; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
There will be Android fans & then the iSheep. I agree with what you say but iSheep will never agree. They will tell you the sky is polka dot pink & will argue until their heads explode. Some ex Apple fans like yourself ilia1986 SEE the difference between Android & iOS. They just simply switch, but then there are the iSheep who will not accept any one criticizing their beloved iOS. You are entitled to your opinion just like everyone else. To iSheep less is more & that is why their iOS is so “smooth”. My HTC Evo 3D is so "smooth" while I run widgets & apps that they will never understand. Their iPhone can't do that, but they will still argue that point, & even say “I don’t need my phone to do that”. I totally understand what you have said in every post. You make clear and concise points!
79. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So unless you switch to android you're a sheep? There's no possible logical reason that someone can prefer iPhone over android?
Also idiot1986 has contradicted himself constantly on here but he's been clear and concise?
He said in 2010 iPhone was great and now it sucks and he used examples of features that android already had in 2010! Lol what a dumbass.
90. rtrhurtjut (unregistered)
DID HE JUST SAY IOS CAN DO EVERYTHING ANDROID CAN DO??
101. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
That's how fandroids are taco. But that's alright. They're all talk, but when it comes to reality, the iphone is still the topdog, and they know that, otherwise they won't be so affected with how the iphone is doing ;)
They know that Apple has every right to their claims against Samsung, and they hate Apple for trying to put a stop on the copying of iDevices. Because they know that when the copying stops, they'll end up with nothing, hahahahaha.
94. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I can tell that we iOS users affect you a lot, lol. You keep on forgetting that what you say about us, also says a lot about you. You only see your choice as the only choice. It's ok for you to like android, but it's not ok for us to like iOS. It's ok for you to defend android, while it's not ok for us to defend iOS. You take notice of iphone users who switched to android, but you don't take notice of the millions of android users from Verizon who switched to the iphone. That's the kind of mentallity you have. Yes, the iphone is still the smoothest touchsceen phone on this planet. And you can run as many widgets as you want on your evo, but you will never get to enjoy better quality apps like we do on our iphones. Have fun with your android device, but I'll have more fun with my iphone :)
97. rtrhurtjut (unregistered)
"You keep on forgetting that what you say about us, also says a lot about you"
Coming from the little kid who says F-agdroid. -.-
When it comes down to it it's all opinion. I don't agree with all of ilia's comments because they hate on someone's opinion.
102. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Hmmmm, I haven't used that term for a while. Although, you're the perfect example of a fhagdroid :)
111. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
And you're the perfect example of a 10 year old who says anything he wants online cause he feels invincible.
You are a child. I'm not going to even bother debating with you anymore.
Can't even have a respectable debate without little kids being ridiculous.
121. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3449; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You come to an Android article to defend Apple? Ok 530gemini. You are officially Apple's lawyer! lol Yes have fun with an iPhone that can't do half of what I do on my HTC Evo 3D. I can do everything you can do and more! All the great apps that are on Apple's app store are on or will be on Android so I am not sweating it at all. You on the other hand feel so inferior that you need to come to an Android article to "defend" Apple. lol Yeah that makes sense!
O K! lol
136. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I read the article and I was curious as to what fhagdroidslike you think of the article. And sure enough, you fhagdroids are attacking Apple and their users again.
Can your evo have a retina display? Can your evo take hdr photos? Can your evo last as long as the ip4's battery life? Can your evo download high quality apps from the appstore? Uhh, no. How long did it take you guys to finally have netflix? Now that you have it, how's the quality? Lol. Stop blaming Apple for your phone's inconsistencies and incapabilities :) Iphone is the bestselling phone on both AT&T and Verizon. You lost again, and again, and again, hahahahahaha
154. JoJo AZ (unregistered)
Samsung is now the biggest phone manufacturer (Worldwide)=fact
Iphone is the most popular phone (by sales)= fact
Android is the most popular OS (Operating System)=fact
the Samsung Galaxy S 2 has been unofficially named the best phone out now by many reviewers. Look it up if you want facts. The Iphone 5 nobody knows what it will or won't have, apple runs a tight ship so not many leaks get out. But if Apple sticks to its making little incremental changes to its iphone it is in trouble. Galaxy S 2 and more and more new phones are releasing with dual cores and higher res cameras. Apple is not innovating anymore they are playing catch up. Everybody copies, thats how innovation happens you take something and make it better. B&W TV to color to HD.
You guys are all arguing over nothing that will ever be won.
Apple fans will always love Apple products even though you can't personalize them. Apple will continue to release products 6 months apart with small changes that they could of added in the first place.
Android fans will always love the ability to customize their phones
The only ones the will win is the consumer if they keep on innovating with their products and stay out of the courts.
115. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
you said iPhone can do everything android can do.... lets see it play kongregate games in the web browser, or play 1080p videos on youtube from straight in the browser( sgs2) .
so dude... gd luck with flash
137. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Why play kongregate from a website when we have better quality games from the appstore? So yes, gd luck with flash, lol.
148. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
Agreed, you CAN play better quality games from the appstore. but most of the games available on YOUR appstore are now available on the app market, or through gameloft's and getjar's online stores.
so dude... lyk i said, good luck with flash, recording and playing 1080p videos on the native video player without the need for using iTunes to convert them.
plus, i bet you if apple suddenly introduces flash on iOS, taco, you and all other iFanatics will go on lyk woow we invented flash.. so it just goes to show you. You can be influenced by Jobbs easily.
153. cnwwyo (Posts: 123; Member since: 26 May 2011)
good job taco, i'm so glad u were able to sniff him out....LOOOL. U win the award!....Your so smart!
52. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
You don't have to wait for your contract to end to get rid of your iphone. You can sell it unlocked and make money :) Go to Gazelle.com
3. StrumerJohn (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 May 2011)
At this point, we may as well wait for the GS3 or another newer phone because by the time we get this f--ng phone there's going to be a 2 Ghz dual core 4GB RAM phone out lol
5. pandamaja (unregistered)
its funny but its true. The GS2 is a pipe dream and when it gets released in the U.S. is will be dated technology...waiting for the nexus prime.
4. sotos73 (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 Jul 2011)
Galaxy s2 the best phone ever!!!!!!!! Do you hear me apple???????????
6. kaka (unregistered)
i knew apple is behind sgs2 delay in the us....this surely proves it. apple is an american company and i won't be surprise if a judge or ITC agrees with the ban. moto being favoured by us carries surely shows pattern of american bias.
8. Tyler R (unregistered)
The touted "free market"; it doesn't exist.
9. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
If the lawyers were as tech knowing as anyone HERE they could havee easily destroyed Apple in court room a while ago and this couldv'e been over already.
21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Hahaha!! Yes I'm sure the people on here are much smarter than the high end lawyers samsung can afford. Why don't you offer your services to Samsung since you're so smart.
47. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
I HIGHLY doubt it takes a high end lawyer to know that Apple wasn't the first to use the GUI.
55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Actually the courts have agreed with Apple so far and ordered samsung to turn over the devices in question. Whats your expert response to that?
91. rtrhurtjut (unregistered)
Retard, the only reason they got it was so that they actually had some evidence. That would be the only way to prove their lie. If they didn't get it they would have had no case and that would have been a wste of money.
103. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Then you have nothing to worry about mr Fhagdroid. You just cross your fingers really hard that Apple cannot prove their case, because if they can, the galaxy line won't step into US soil :)
113. iSheepHunter (Posts: 55; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
I'm fully aware of what will happen if they lose you idiot.
I hope you don't have kids, and are still saying fag.
138. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I don't care if they win or lose really. I actually wish that Apple will lose. That way the galaxy s2 will be allowed in the US, and so I can once again see the ip5 own it :)
But of course you Fhagdroids would come up with your classic "Apple has great marketing", and "Apple has mastered hypnosis". You fhagdroids are major jokes :)
10. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Apple is a piece of work, lemme tell you. And a piece of s**t. Holding back millions of people to buy an awesome phone because they are whiney bitches, really? I'm about to shoot an email to Apple and raise hell.
11. rwolf1984 (Posts: 518; Member since: 06 Jun 2009)
I want this phone to come out ASAP. My Galaxy S device works fine so I am not shelling out 700 bucks for an unlocked Galaxy S II...this really sucks. For my next device I am considering the Galaxy S II, iPhone 5, and whatever top end Android device from Motorola or HTC is out on AT&T...
14. KingK (unregistered)
People who buy iphones don't care about SGS2 or "tech"
You are overestimating the Galaxy.
It's mostly just a bunch of geeks who really want it that bad because of meaningless benchmarks.
I hate the Iphone but it will out sell GS2 no matter what, it can be 10ghz and 10gb ram, it won't matter.
27. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)
i couldnt agree more with you.. specially about geeks owning this forum.. people want to even raise hell for not getting their phone.... and some even think they know more then lawers..give me a F** break...
16. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Does anyone remember when Apple started it's lawsuit against Samsung? Does it line up with the release of GS2? I am also on board with the handset's delay being tied to the lawsuit, I just do not recall all the timeframes.
I am not going to just say that "Apple is lawsuit happy, and they are scared!!" They DO love their lawyer firm and keep them busy, but there has been enough arguments I have read on these things to think that the company who cried wolf may actually be worried about the sheep this time. It is a shame, the lack of the GS2 is our loss.
Besides, the last time I thought Apple would win a lawsuit was the infringement case it had against Amazon's Appstore name. Maybe I will jinx them again, and we can get this thing over with and get the stupid Samsung.
18. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
By the way.... that excuse from "one Samsung executive" is really, REALLY lame ...
17. sniperace (Posts: 95; Member since: 20 Aug 2009)
I once used an Iphone ,but this whole thing has made me lose any and all respect for apple. True if the Galaxy SII drops in late August it would go head to head with the Iphone 4S or 5 or what ever it'll be named. Apples slower, smaller screen, non-removable battery,and no Sd card --VS-- THE BEAST Samsung Galaxy SII! It's thinner, faster, bigger screen, removable battery, 16-32gb of internal storage plus a removable sd card up to 32gb...oops almost forgot to mention 2 mp front facing camera and 8 mp on the back.Oh and dare i say it...FULL FLASH SUPPORT. So if samsung coppied how did they manage to come out with a much better product? And even more importantly what makes you think that anyone that wants a Galaxy SII would settle for the Iphone. 3g not 4g no LTE...next case please!!
46. Joe (unregistered)
the GSII doesn't have 4g either...
64. hmmmmye (unregistered)
we do know that yet it possibly could
72. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Can you enumerate to us what was on Apple's complaint against Samsung was? You probably can't. And neither can I. But the court did, and they thought that Apple has a strong case against Sammy.
It is Apple's right to file a lawsuit against anyone who infringes on their protected IP's. Apple would have to present evidences. It's not like they just make a phone call to the court and a case is opened. If their evidences are weak, the court would dump their motion right away. And their wouldn't even be a case.
Some people just don't know how due process works. Frustrating really. Why don't you do this. Call ITC and tell them to ban Apple products in the US. Let's see what the court will tell you.
19. Synack (Posts: 634; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
I know so many people that have an iPhone and ask me what phone I have (currently Droid Charge, was a white Fascinate before) and they immediately want my phone.
2 things that they want more than anything:
1. A bigger screen
2. Super AMOLED display
Good LORD they love the colors and brightness that the SAMOLED screen dishes out.