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Tongue in cheek ways to value Apple's stock

0. phoneArena 25 Jan 2013, 16:18 posted on

Over the years, we've discussed a number of methods used to value Apple's stock from fundamental analysis to charts and even complex wave analysis like Eliott Wave; the jokers as The Joy of Tech have come up with an infograph that we believe covers all of the remaining methods of determining where Apple should be trading...

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posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:29 21

1. GoBears (Posts: 451; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


They wanted the war with Android and now they got it. Too bad they are losing it. I love googling aapl and seeing the steady decline since Cook started calling the shots. Also at their new stock price, they are no longer the "most valuable" company.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 17:39 1

6. Hemlocke (unregistered)


You are funny.

Let's ask Motorola, HTC, and Google (Yes, Google) how that war is really going. Motorola is one step away from being worth less than a Starbuck's gift card, HTC is a rowboat with multiple leaks, and Google is now trying to wrest Android back from Samsung by stepping up the Nexus program. The only company really benefiting from Android is Samsung, and at the rate their brand recognition is growing, and the rate at which they are building their own ecosystem, it won't be long before they plop their TouchWiz skin on Tizen and head out on their own.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 17:52 7

7. joey_sfb (Posts: 6015; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I don't mind if Tizen ecosystem is the same as Android econsystem, hundreds of thousand of apps and great maps, emails, clouds services.

Tizen is open source and with enough developer support could be a viable choice.

But the fact is Android is currently the one with the best ecosystem apart from iOS.

I personally prefer Android over iOS for now.

Apple sucks balls !@@!

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 17:53 10

9. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"...and Google is now trying to wrest Android back from Samsung by stepping up the Nexus program."

Do you even know what you are talking?

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 18:16 6

12. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Dude

Motorola was worth less than Starbucks .... They have been loosing money since the RAZR (not to be confused with droid RAZR)

HTC!? Seriously? You knew what HTC was 5 years ago...? Yeah neither the rest of the world

Google is being working with blunt knifes and yet they manage to get 20% profit compared with 24% from apple that's not so much to be jealous about....

So far moto and Google are doing fairly good with their "war" being MS their only big pain... Also Google itself has yet to be sued and apple is been loosing patents from USPO

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 19:22

14. rd311 (Posts: 10; Member since: 08 May 2010)


Protozeloz,

Why should I listen to someone that doesn't even know the history of HTC or Google??

Htc made the original nexus in 2010 and were very successful for several years. They have recently got in trouble financially. As of late they have dug their self out of a hole with the release of the Droid DNA and HTC 8X!!

Motorola has been in financial trouble for years. Google bought them for patents and patents only!! And as of late Google has been laying off more and more Motorola employees.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 21:19 2

19. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Dude? You actually read what I said? HTC made the original nexus? HTC made the G1 if you want to go somewhere, but that's not the point, HTC is not a well known brand.... It is known now because of android

Motorola was bought for patents yet Google keeps holding into it, they will work things out and you will see a much better Motorola on the future.... Nokia fired a lot of people, RIM fired a lot of people.... Apple itself had times where it fired a lot of people, things happen when a period of change comes...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 22:38

24. rd311 (Posts: 10; Member since: 08 May 2010)


DUDE,

Maybe I just can't read or you can't read. I have read your original post again and again. I still don't see where it says HTC made the original G1.

Maybe some one else can see in your original post and tell me where it says that?

Need to get your story straight!!

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 06:08 1

33. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


What I meant is that a nexus means nothing, in fact the original nexus was not that successful. Yeah it was a good phone and all but every other nexus was more appealing to the consumer

HTC has some big issues

They refuse to simply their skin, not only their skin is full of hideous inconsistencies but they are the ones that go completely astray when it comes down to android design guidelines

They keep having the worse battery life of all android devices

They lack and actually good commercial campaign

what I meant with what I said that compared with the others HTC is the least known brand of all the android top dogs, and they make a lot of errors, making a nexus has no actual meaning because they built the first android device anyway... For Google it was the company to trust then they changed the way the nexus program works and have never chosen HTC ever again...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 22:46 3

25. predator93 (Posts: 122; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


To be honest HTC got popular during 'windows mobile' era , they made bigger success with android.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 23:40 2

27. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I was thinnking the same thing....the HD2? That Win Mo phone was also the start of the big phone craze. It just got more popular with the Droid X and EVO.

Sense UI also got its start there..

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 06:00

32. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Actually HTC has been nearly the only one making windows mobile smarphones

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 09:40 1

35. Aeires (unregistered)


Motorola was in trouble before Android, HTC was a nobody, now recognized because of Android, and Google is trying to rest control from the carriers, not Samsung.

You are not funny, even though your post was a joke.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 20:14 1

16. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


I'm right with you. My stock App points directly to Apple and this was the best week to see Apple suffer even with pretty good numbers. Tim Cook is a nobody and he is only good at modifying gadgets that Steve Jobs created.
This should shake Apples foundation and force them to release better product at competitive pricing. No one wants to buy over priced computers or stupid "S" models.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 20:16

18. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


What??? Seriously dude, stop talking fanboy BS.
google stock is so over-valued it isn't funny. What we've seen over the last few months is nothing more than co-ordinated price manipulation between hedge funds, brokers, and media outlets. As usual the SEC has done squat to prevent it.

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 13:08 1

39. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


AAPL should be valued under $100. It is a bubble that has swollen, is deflating, and likely to pop.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 21:29 1

20. AppLE.R0yally. (banned) (Posts: 6; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Apple still remains at $450+ which still they are the most ubiquitous, and way much reserves are elsewhere, so this is nothing for Apple!

We are all behind you Apple! iPhone5 will outsell the 4s sales....!

We like thatâ„¢

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 13:06 1

38. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


$439 and falling isn't $450.

IFail5stretchPadmini won't save apple

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:51 2

2. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Something I don't think I've seen (then again, I admit to not really looking into it) is the volume of AAPL trading. The stock price has gotten a black eye, but is the volume of movement of APPL up? Down? Steady?

One of the biggest things to me about AAPL is that I think Apple has only paid out dividends twice in 18 years (IIRC). So, until you've sold your investment, you're not actually seeing any profit from it. Is it possible that there are people simply cashing out before the value dips below their initial investment, which then instigates others doing the same as the value slides lower? Cashing out is the only way to profit from APPL after all.

If that's the case then I'd expect the value to stabilize somewhere around the value where the majority of people paid for the stock. The people that bought in at the mid range and low range will hold on to it waiting for it to rise again as stocks tend to rise and fall. All the people dumping it now are probably those that bought in recently after the stock started skyrocketing not realizing it couldn't last forever, or didn't realize there were no dividends.

I think paying out dividends could increase the perceived value of the stock in people's minds.

(Sorry for rambling people. I need so much more coffee today.)

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:58 1

3. faisolbauuz (Posts: 121; Member since: 05 Jan 2013)


Well anything goes up goes down thats it

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:59 4

4. amiaq (Posts: 509; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


All these over hype, denials, false and exaggerating testimonial regarding Apple products satisfactions which has been pushing the market up. Once truth set it, facts become apparent, alternatives becoming obvious, what else left? It is "dot com" bubble crash all over again.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 17:30 1

5. Hemlocke (unregistered)


The fact is, AAPL is severely undervalued. With a P/E below 10 (Google's is a 23+, MSFT's is a 15, and Amazon's is 3,380) and good cash flow, this is nothing more than manipulation. The dot.com bubble was built on companies with no assets, no cash flow, and no prospects of either. Apple is the healthiest company on the planet.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 17:53 2

8. amiaq (Posts: 509; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Yeah, the fact that Apple's foundation is strong might be the reason it hasn't crash as bad. However my view is the fundamental reasons of its decline is similar to dot com.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 17:56 6

10. Caralho (Posts: 119; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)


Wait, let me check my crystal balls...lol

The beginning of the end for Apple!!!

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 18:13 3

11. Joker (Posts: 24; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


I can see it too:
Apple stock dropped another 20% after the announcement of the next iPhone & iPad

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 19:24 3

15. TBomb (Posts: 769; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)


I just think that the apple ahh-factor has lost its momentum. they're not changing anything major anymore. Just makign different sized iphones and calling it an ipad or ipod after they take away the phone ability. My personal opinion.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 22:14 2

22. cheetah2k (Posts: 1597; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Apple was warned not to follow the RIM business model, but underneath all the denials, they've gone down that path.

Apple will end up like RIM -> small and irrelevant.. Its only a matter of time.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 18:18 3

13. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


PUT A VOODOO curse on Apple so it's stock can fall

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 20:16

17. darkkjedii (Posts: 22065; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Shhhhhhhhhh. No wack statements please

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 21:32 1

21. AppLE.R0yally. (banned) (Posts: 6; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


We see you are jealous! Apple already has VOODOO'S, and Litigates,
We like thatâ„¢

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