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Tizen OS-touting Samsung Z9005 Redwood reminds of a TouchWizzy Android a bit too much

0. phoneArena 04 Nov 2013, 02:14 posted on

It's been no secret that Tizen, an upcoming alternative OS to incumbents iOS, Android and WP, has received some serious backing from South Korean giant Samsung...

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posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:17 5

1. mr.techdude (Posts: 551; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Good competition. Hope HTC comes back to the biggest android oem

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:54 1

8. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


HTC won't. Not unless it replaces their CEO with someone more competent. I cannot believe that their much-hyped One max was just a blown up One with no spec bumps.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 04:54 2

13. FiddyPence (Posts: 21; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Who hyped the One Max ?

Its a big phone for the asian market and not a flagship or Note 3 alternative.

It fills the same niche that the Galaxy Mega fills.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:49 1

16. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1627; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


it really doesn't it was meant to be competition to the note 3 like the one was to the s4

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:19

19. FiddyPence (Posts: 21; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


You clearly have not read a One Max review because all the decent ones have pointed out its for the asian market and is doing quite well there.

Why did they make it worse than the One then ?

No OIS and no S800 and no multitasking apps or stylus ?

HTC have made mistakes, but clearly its just a large phone like the mega. The Note 3 still has no real competition.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:31

2. ianbbaa (Posts: 202; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)


They skinned stock android for they "likes" so they will do the same with Tizen - so people can handle the new OS without any other learning needs. We can just see the Settings in the video - who first use tabbed group settings on Android? The will not drastically change UI of Tizen - what for. They just need their own OS - slowly putting Tizen into their line of phones - some midranges and people will not even notice/care - if Tizen runs smooth, low on power and resources, it will have a chance to live.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:51 4

6. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


Yeah, but we as more demanding users care. And from what I can see, Tizen is anything but "smooth". Reminds me of pre-ICS days when Android was still a laggy mess.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:56

9. Arman (Posts: 42; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


yep.. Tizen is in it's second major version 2.2 to be exact.. and yet there is lag everywhere.. after 4.4 android will become a lightweight OS even for mid range devices .. so TIZEN must work even harder..

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:54

7. Arman (Posts: 42; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)


making a new ecosystem in this crowded competition is like making a wheel out of stone in a Formula 1 race..

I know Samsung is the biggest OEM (in component and in Gadgets) but Software, OS and ecosystem isn't really their biggest competitive advantage..

just look at Microsoft, a gigantic company in OS and software and even in hardware tech(thousands of unique and exciting patent in hardware) but cant make a decent ecosystem after many years of development..

believe it or not .. the only thing that can beat iOS and Android is a better product or a new category of products.. not a new Smartphone(tablet) ecosystem and OS..

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:36 2

3. TwentyWendy (banned) (Posts: 65; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)


Still a better looking than android kitkat :3

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:40 9

4. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


You serious? Tizen, much to my disappointed, looks like absolute crap. And laggier than Android as well - did you see the lock screen?

The Touchwiz influence is not a good one. It actually looks worse than the Android Touchwiz skin. Oh well, Sailfish, here we come.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 02:47

5. darkskoliro (Posts: 990; Member since: 07 May 2012)


more like android, here i stay?

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 03:04

10. mew7946510 (Posts: 55; Member since: 10 Nov 2010)


Yeah, yeah! Sailfish ! If it matures properly, it might even become a potential threat Android. It's already pretty good at its young age.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:51

17. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1627; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


hahaha sailfish won't even touch android!!

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 16:06 1

23. roldefol (Posts: 2999; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


What you aren't getting is how mature the phone industry is already. Android came in at the right time, when hundreds of millions of phone users were upgrading from dumbphones or from non-touch smartphones. Now that the majority of users already have a smartphone, it needs to be truly compellingly different to get any attention.

What are we expecting Sailfish or Tizen to bring to the table that Android, iOS, and WP8 don't? What's going to lure me from my Android and the Android apps I love, or a satisfied iPhone user from the iOS ecosystem?

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 03:15

11. androiphone20 (Posts: 1474; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


Samsung stealing ideas from Samsung :D

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 03:38 1

12. sniperdroid (Posts: 123; Member since: 23 May 2013)


I don't have a problem with Samsung creating their own OS, sure it's a bit laggy but sure to improve eventually. The problem I have is in the looks department, they should put more effort there so we can get something that is a mash up between firefox and Ubuntu in terms of looks and runs as smooth as ios.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 04:59 1

14. anleoflippy (Posts: 299; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


So, reincarnation of the Bada OS?

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:49

15. Sadman_Hossain (Posts: 18; Member since: 01 Oct 2013)


The phone looks like a Galaxy S3 covered by a white cover of a Nokia Lumia 920.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:51 2

18. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1627; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


its a case over a s4....

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 13:52

20. Ravail (Posts: 182; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)


Looks to much like Touchwiz. Would have liked to see Samsung come up with something completely new.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 14:01

21. pookiewood (Posts: 613; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


Samsung is doing it right by making it look exactly like their Android offering. Sure it may be laggy now but it hasn't been released yet. They'll fix all of the bugs, call it Galaxy something if their smart, and rake in the cash. App Ecosystem? Samsung is driving the Android Ship and a reason for the market share/dev interest. Make it easy to port Android Apps. Rake in dough!

I don't have a Dog in the fight I'm a Windows guy but I could see Samsung being successful here given their record.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 15:52

22. Kishin (Posts: 618; Member since: 30 May 2013)


If samsung left there would (not be)anymore android!!!

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