The top selling smartphones in the U.S. during Q3 were the Apple iPhone 4 and the Apple iPhone 3GS
0. phoneArena 14 Nov 2011, 11:50 posted on
Thanks to the deeply discounted pricing for the Apple iPhone 3GS, that model trailed only the Apple iPhone 4 as the two top selling smartphones in the U.S. during the third quarter of 2011; during the period, the older iPhone models sold more units than Android heavyweights like the Motorola DROID 3...
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34. bucky (Posts: 1989; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
doesnt really apply. Android phones are cheap one month after they are released and overtaken by a new one. Just look at the galaxy s2 ($100) and the droid bionic. the demand is still there.
144. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
For Q3:11, the aging Apple iPhone 3GS with outdated specs outsold the best Samsung phone, the best HTC phone or the best Motorola phone, respectively.
I said it before, I will say it again. If Samsung or Motorola or HTC stop making crap, i.e. a phone for every market or segment, they too can have similar success to the 3GS. Instead, Samsung or Motorola or HTC are caught in the treadmill of producing as many phone variation as possible akin to throwing wet paper against a wall and seeing which one sticks. These companies spread their talent, resources, attention too thin can't produce a phone that sells as well as the 3GS.
To add insult to injury, only one carrier offers the 3GS.
97. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Agreed,seeing as there\'s only 3 phones representing a whole os its really easily how to see they are the top selling \'phones\'. Android however is the top selling os by far but with several top popular handsets from mulitple vendors (samsung,htc,sony,lg,motorola etc) the sales over from android are spread across the wider base of handsets thus giving the impression the iphone is more popular by individual handset sale
99. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
mistypes there,meant that there\'s only 3 iphones representing a whole os so easy to see how they show up as best selling individual \'phones\'
106. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
There's lots of flaws to your theory. First handset sales do matter. Motorola, Samsung, HTC etc compete with each other. Androids market share is of no benefit to them individually. Second Apple competes with all the top handsets just like android makers do. iPhone sells more because people prefer iPhone's. Once an android maker makes a phone that's competitive it can outsell the iPhone.
No need to justify facts. iPhone is the best selling phone in the US. Period.
111. c.hack (Posts: 534; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
Why would Samsung care about just US sales? It outsells iPhone worldwide. Same goes for the other manufacturers.
I wouldn't make the inference that iPhone sells more because people prefer the hardware. I bought it for iOS, even though I would have preferred a 4.3" screen and less fragile hardware.
115. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Not sure what you're getting at. The article is about US sales.
I said people prefer iPhone that could be a lot of reasons including the software. I prefer iOS mainly. I also like the build quality of the phone, but the OS is the main selling point of iPhone for me.
Only Samsung outsold Apple world wide. Apple outsold every other manufacturer in Q3. Sorry you're wrong. Apple has outsold Samsung for the year so far and with Q4 they should extend their lead.
125. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
while obviously an iphone competes with all other phones, it has less competition. When someone wants an iOS phone, they dont have much choice. when someone wants an Android phone, there are lots n lots of choices.
If you say "top end iphone".. you can only think i4S. If you say "top end android" you can say SGS2, note, razr, bionic, sensation, on and on and on and on. For that reason, unless iOS just drastically falls in market share, an iphone will more than likely be in the top spot for a long time to come.
103. messiah (Posts: 434; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)
Two outdated products on discounted rates are easily sold
145. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
I wish people would also take the time to focus on the business side of things. For example, do you realize how much money, resources, and time is needed to bring a phone from the drawing board to market.
Just ask yourself, how can you stay in business if you don't generate an adequate rate of return for your efforts. Right now, the high-end Android OEMs may enjoy their day in the sun, but watch out as the second tier android OEMs flex their muscle. This is not the time for the Samsung, HTC, or Motorola to rest on their laurels. Next year, the android market will get more crowded and fragmented.
9. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i did? which thread.
no he was just temp banned.. he will be back shortly.
and no, the bet is still on. :)
117. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Well pa said he was banned they lied. Um the thread with the skyrocket.
98. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Yes sometimes we need a taco comment to keep the stereotype of apple fanboys intact
26. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i guess the better question, is why did your question get modded?
110. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
if that makes you feel better. There's no numbers I'm aware of for world sales, but pretty sure that will be iPhone as well.
6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
BTW, this news comes from an apple fan site. while it may or may not be valid, some actual hard numbers would give it credibility. It beat out the others by how much? how did they come to this conclusion? what were the actual rankings of the top 5-10 phones with sales?
14. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Try reading the article
"According to stats compiled by the NPD group"
19. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
taco, that doesnt answer any of my questions about actual sales, its just reiterating what this article was paraphrasing from the apple article that was cherry picking from that NPD article, which i read already. Hense, my questions.
22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Considering iPhone has been #1 in sales and # every quarter this year why would this be surprising?
33. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i didnt say it was, did i.
i expect a popular OS with only 2 or 3 phones for sale to outpace the other OS that is more than twice as popular but has like 50 phones for sale. Thats the nature of the beast. Marketshare though is stagnant for iOS, with or without top sales spots, while android is growing in over all share.
75. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
What does android market share have to do with the article. Please stay on topic.
101. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
im pretty sure market share has a direct correlation with sales.. cant have the former without the latter.
102. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Agreed android is outselling and out pacing ios on a daily basis but islaves have just 3 phones to choose from if they stay stuck with apple. Android on he other hand has at least 20-30 top current hansets so the purchases are spread over a much larger base of phones and over individual handset sales are less than that of the sole iphone choices. Over all though individual sales don\'t represent the over market as android is gaining further and further distance in the lead
105. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 240; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)
stop calling iPhone users with offensive names.
118. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Why is he not being moderated or limited when calling Apple users i$laves and he did it again below after being told to stop
124. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 240; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)
andro. will not be able to post for a while
50. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
@remix.. so because it was reported form a Apple site then the Android news coming from Droid life Etc.. should not be reliable..is absurd.. if you want to troll...just troll...is ok.. we know you are an undercover closet troll
130. Paden (Posts: 262; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
They are moderating harmful names as well. Might wanna take the higher road and cool it with the "Fandroid" talk too.
60. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
hey, this closet is comfortable. I got a plush lazy boy, a 60 inch flatscreen and skyrim goin on. You know u wanna hang in this closet. :)
8. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Top 3 selling phones in Q4?
Androids rush in with excuses as usual.
15. c.hack (Posts: 534; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
Actually, a more fair comparison would be total Android phones to total iOS Phones.
18. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
No it wouldn't. That would be 50 phones against 3.
54. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
and everyday you bash Apple... go figured...
96. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
1. you're off topic by talking about market share. Hopefully this post gets deleted
2. Your argument makes no sense. iPhone competes will all 50 android phones as well. It's not like people buy exclusively Apple or exclusively android. Very few people are actually fanboys and pick out the one they like best. If android made a really good phone it would sell well. Example is GS 2. It has sold very well.
You don't have to justify this to yourself or PA. Iphone is the the best selling phone in the US in Q3 and also the 2nd best selling phone. Everyone else is behind.
END OF STORY
116. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
1) market share and sales are 2 halves of the same whole.
2) part of apple's strategy is to force you to buy exclusively apple to get full compatablity with everything, which keeps you locked in apple's atmosphere otherwise you have to rebuy everything.. which is darn expencive.
3) most customers come in asking for "android" or "iphone4 (or 5 sadly)". We have a lot that ask for the SGS2, but thats an anomole comparatively. very rarely other than the SGS2 does some one come in looking for a specific android set. Brand recognition. With apple, the device is iconic. With android its the OS that people know.
67. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 240; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)
Offtopic posts have been deleted. Please stick to discussing the news itself.
104. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
PhoneArena Team, I don't like censorship. This is now going too far. We the readers come here to post whatever we want. We are regulars who talk with each other on mostly on topic stuff on a daily basis. Sometimes we may deviate but that is the nature of the beast.
I rather you temporarily ban someone then DELETE entire threads. This is very childish by PhoneArena.com.
You ALL at PhoneArena.com are NOTHING without the people who visit your site. You guys need to show some respect & accept what is written. I am very ashamed you guys are now censoring blog space.
If you guys are capable of this, then what else are you guys doing when articles are presented on your site. If you guys can manipulate ours posts then you guys can manipulate any articles that you supply as news to us the readers.
In all the years I have been reading your site, NEVER have I been so appalled like I am right now. This is completely unprofessional & it's a complete stain on your legitimacy! Literally deleting entire threads is something that China or Cuba would do, this is the U.S. & if you want to get rid of offensive people then that is fine but to manipulate & change posts is something that makes me questions your ethics.
How do I now know if your articles are sincere after such a heinous act?
108. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
A heinous act? Get over yourself they deleted some nonsense on a blog. I agree though the censorship is getting out of hand. Also if it will be enforced it needs to be done so evenly. There are people on here that literally post the same islaves or crapple sux posts on each article over and over. They should be limited or banned if I can be limited despite presenting facts and debating.
120. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Look taco50 PhoneArena.com if you will gives us the arena to post our opinions, yes sometimes it gets a little crazy but there is no need to delete entire threads. This is a public forum, I can go and petition & speak anywhere because it’s my right. To be silenced by PhoneArena.com in the form of deleting of entire threads, is crossing the line. I was ok with the moderating & the temporary bans but now this is a new thing altogether. If they can delete threads then what else is PhoneArena.com capable of?
How do I know that they are not manipulating articles? I just don't know, but what I do know is that they DO manipulate threads & it's sad that PhoneArena.com can cast a dark cloud on itself like that! To me PhoneArena.com’s ethics are indeed in question.
109. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i really dont understand the harm in off topic as long as its not a poo fight back n forth with name calling and all that. A lot of off topic conversations lead to general education and even consensus depending on the topic.
I'm all for watching how we treat each other and getting rid of those that constantly ignore common courtesies (yes, i know i have blown those rules in the past, but i am working on it.. which is what everyone should be doing).
However I think that conversation flows like a river.. its not a straight line.. it ebbs back n forth.. deep n shallow. As long as no one is trying to start fights or be extremely rude, why not let it go wherever it flows?
Now im curious to just how many times the "report" button was hit on this thread by everyone seeing as how often it got modded and then deleted. lol.
112. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'm reporting every single post now. Even mine.
113. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
baha.. i dare you. i reported one of mine because it tripple posted, so they would delete it. but they deleted all 3!!! :( and now im too lazy to repost.. lol.
114. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Things that are NOT allowed:
•Off-topic talk - you must stick to the subject of discussion
•Trolling - see a description
•Offensive, hate speech - if you want to say something, say it politely
•Spam/Advertisements - these posts are deleted
•Multiple accounts - one person can have only one account
•Impersonations and offensive nicknames - these accounts get banned
the rules are there... dont like it... the door is wide open....
119. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yet, i continually see you breaking these rules too. dont be a hippocrit gallito.
also, what is your point? we are aware of the forum rules.
the point is, never before has a thread been so heavily moderated and then deleted... and it wasnt even an offensive thread. thats the shocker. it was deleted because we were having an off topic conversation that naturally flowed from the original conversation. thats how conversation works. and for 95% of it, it was nothing but respectful and inciteful.
there has to be a balancing act. do you want active threads that are respectful and show a thriving community, or do you want threads that stay purely on topic. there is going to be a lot less posting with the latter as people can only say so much per topic without either starting a flame war, or getting bored and going to another site.
There are dozens of sites to get the news from. People stay on one site or another because of the community. As much as we go back n forth, if we didnt really like the banter, we wouldnt come back and post again.
121. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
nop.. it originated with Android followers doubting the article coming with old excuses taking the conversation off topic.... and is not how many people broke the rules in the past.. is how many will not break them ...
122. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
gallitoking, life is not scripted. The topics that we all talk about might lead to a different place, just like real life face to face conversations. Sometimes comments might get off topic, that's life. This is a public forum to express our opinions not a English essay. I can understand moderation or temporary bans but deletion of entire threads is completely uncalled for. This is the nature of the beast. PhoneArena.com is completely over stepping its boundaries by deleting entire threads.
128. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
in order to find the boundaries, we must first over step them. Hopefully, this is a learning lesson for all.. including the hand that moderates PA's boards.
then again, its there boards, there is no freedom of speech. that is relegated to public space and private residence. this is neither, its a company. we are using its boards, so there fore we have to comply with its rules. Just like at work... there is no such thing as freedom of speech.
But there are consequences. over moderation will lead to people leaving the boards, which will reduce visits and posts, which will reduce revenue for the site. under moderation will lead to the constant flame wars that this board had become.. which will drive away posters and visitors resulting in less revenue for the site.
the sweet spot is in the middle somewhere. Which in my weightless PoV is taking action against the individuals that constantly break the important rules like constant trolling, flame starting, and insulting, and let the rest of the conversation go where it pleases as long as its respectful.
131. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Exactly, actions like this might cause people to leave PhoneArena.com. If PhoneArena.com gets a reputation for deleting threads then it will hurt them in the long run. Most of us visit others sites not just PhoneArena.com. I could understand if we were spewing ethnic hate, child porn or whatever, but we were talking about the MHz of a certain phone & we doing it in a normal manner, nothing too over the top.
Then comes PhoneArena Team deleting like 40 to 50 posts. That was unprecedented, I have NEVER seen anything like that! It went from 4 pages to 2 in a flash. I was like you got to be kidding me.
132. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well I can tell you this... Android followers started reporting Taco... and now we have this... if you guys would have been adults formthe beginning... none of these would have happen... it only takes one person... to ruin it for everyone... Taco was only expressing himself...
133. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You don't know that gallitoking. You are making things up. How do you know that people reported taco50? I don't know that, do you have some information that I don't know? For the record the only thing I report on a consistent level is SPAM. I hate when I see horrible Chinese translations into English, to try to sell me some crazy stuff when I am reading what other people are talking about in a very interesting article. That is it. This to me is fun, it's not that serious that I need to report anyone. Sticks & stones may break bones...... I think you know the rest!
135. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Yeah, as much as I shoot down taco's worthless posts and enjoy proving him wrong I have never reported him.
In fact, i've never even given him thumbs down. It's more fun to just prove him wrong.
148. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
You've only proven me wrong in your imagination.