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The power of the 1% over mobile devices (expandable memory and removable batteries)

0. phoneArena 31 Mar 2012, 13:35 posted on

If there is anything that we try to do consistently, it is to point out that personal opinion does not equal one side of a right/wrong argument. There is a growing trend of manufacturers not including SD card slots or...

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posted on 31 Mar 2012, 13:52

1. AjayV (Posts: 4; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


First!!! :D

anyways.. this post is true.. but i experienced the need for an expandable battery only once (and i BELIEVE that I belong to the 1%). and im sure 1800 mAh is enough coz 500 mhz is all that you will be running on mostly in the one x and samsung galaxy nexus has 1650 mAh.. so not bad.. it was properly executed. but a little more could have been better. thats all.. otherwise.. 1800 is perfect.. :)

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:04

6. Habib (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)


samsung galaxy nexus has 1850 mAh battery :D!
with verizon..

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 19:08

52. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


Really nice, liked your article, and your writing
style micheal. every-one has coverd what few
thing's i was about to say! Well let's wait and
see what future brings.... shall it follow Apple's path.....!

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 22:17 1

59. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


1750 for HSPA version, 1850 for LTE version

posted on 01 Apr 2012, 01:36

79. AjayV (Posts: 4; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


I just don't understand.. everyone here keeps putting a negative to every comment!! why don't they just admit the facts!??
but still.. rarely does anyone cross the requirement for any memory more than say 10 gb? ok at max what 16gb?? its not worth it man.. and companies mean business and their business comes from the 99% and not 1%. we say what we want.. they say what they want.. so majority wins.. our wants are overruled.. no choice.. accept truth fellas..

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 16:45

115. sgtdisturbed47 (Posts: 679; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


I don't mind the "non-removable" battery in my iphone 4 (although I can replace it in under 2 minutes), and if I had a choice, I'd have a class 10 micro SD instead of internal storage only. Removable memory is easier to access and transfer, whereas with Cloud storage, you have to download it to your multiple locations.

The big Plus with Cloud storage now is it's becoming more and more automated, which is easier to work with, but with data limits/caps on smartphones and a limitation on free Cloud storage [before having to pay for more cloud storage], having removable memory is still a very viable option. Companies not including memory cards is not exactly harmful, because seriously, what percentage of people use more than the common 16gb of internal memory? 16gb is a lot of storage. I understand this, but it's still nice to not have to purchase a card seperately.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 13:53 5

2. Asasindude26 (Posts: 33; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)


I agree the cloud is the future

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 17:56 6

46. jlscott777 (Posts: 45; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Not mine, do not need it, do not want it.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 18:05 18

48. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)


I will always prefer SD cards, they are just safer.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 19:12 5

53. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


So I have to stream my music anytime I want it? No thanks.

Give me 32GB and I'll be happy without the sd if and only if it give me high speeds. As it is, I never remove it since I can get to it via usb just fine.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 23:25 7

69. frydaexiii (Posts: 1461; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Yeah, lets see you get access to your files and media when you're in a place with no access to the internet on the go...

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 13:53 19

3. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


I think Michael is the best Phone Arena writer.
Compare his articles to anyone elses, and you'll see why.
I read this article, and, without looking, I knew Michael wrote it!

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:13 6

10. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


He has a writing style unique from the others.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:17 6

11. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


totally agree.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 20:18 2

54. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


I agree also. Each article he wrote, you learned something. It keeps you reading until the last sentence. Keep up the good work Michael, we're just here always reading your articles.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:01 3

4. danny_a2005 (Posts: 167; Member since: 06 Oct 2011)


I don't know what's the big deal with this... If you want a phone with all those features go and get it, there's some people like me that don't care about the battery or the sdcard, in fact most of people don't (iphone).. listen to 1%??? who would do that?? if you listen to 1% you will lose 99% of your costumers.. 99% of their customers don't care about that stuff, and we will buy this flagship, cause we asked for it, they've listened and here it is..

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 16:58 1

38. jabberwocky (Posts: 89; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


I think I understand where you are coming from, but I would point out that you can buy an iPhone with 64GB of storage, and they have featured the longest battery life of all phones until only recently.

I think that is the point of the expandable storage and replaceable battery; more room for my stuff and a phone that lasts through an entire day (at least!).

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 22:20 2

61. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


I dont know why you got so many dislikes, I get your point. And also why is it a big deal to have a removable battery...not many phones even have extended battery option. Just carry a charger (Its just a wire...) And i really couldn't care if my phone had a micro sd card slot or not, as long as it has enough memory im good. I only have a TOTAL of 8.5GB in my Desire and i still have space left over after music pictures and even roms.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 23:25 1

68. phoenixpr (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


Hence you are the 99% fool "F"in it up for the 1%, LOL! You just don't care is my point with all these fools buying crap and happy as can be, LOL!

posted on 01 Apr 2012, 22:50 1

112. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


I do care. I wouldnt buy a phone with just 8gb and no sd card slot with a 1400mAh battery. If the battery is big enough...then what is the use of having a removable one. If it has enough storage without a card slot..then what are you losing out on? the card would just sit in your phone the entire time anyways, when you connect it to your computer most likley you plug your phone in and not take the card out. Android is better without card slots, it wouldnt take as long to load the data on the memory. and if you want more memory, you have dropbox (if you are with HTC) and soon you will also have Google Drive

posted on 02 Apr 2012, 22:39 1

118. WKlingbeil (Posts: 215; Member since: 26 Dec 2008)


I'll tell you one reason EVERYBODY needs a removable battery: phones freeze up. Unless you know the key combinations to reset the iPhone you'll have to fumble around the internet looking for it (but what if you don't have internet access other than your phone?). I don't need multiple batteries, but there's nothing simpler than removing the battery when my phone freezes up (though fortunately it's been months since I've had to do that).

posted on 01 Apr 2012, 06:00

88. SGSatlantis (Posts: 226; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


My God, I just don't know why are you here, I mean not caring for SDslot or removable battery. Seem you only care about the logo on your phone...
1. "If you want a phone with all those features go and get it" yeah right, wanted the galaxy nexus with 32GB: never made it! So 16GB and no slot...
2. " there's some people like me that don't care about the battery or the sdcard, in fact most of people don't (iphone)." Most of the people I know care. If your budget was limited you would care too...
3. "listen to 1%??? who would do that?? if you listen to 1% you will lose 99% of your costumers.." well this is just wrong, manufacturers do listen to 1% and this is a fact, unlocking bootroms, bugfixes, updates... And if you include an SDslot and removable battery you won't lose a single sale. I don't hear anyone saying "dude i WILL not buy a phone with removable battery, I might lose it!"
4. "and we will buy this flagship, cause we asked for it, they've listened and here it is.. " I'm lost here... what flagship and who asked for it? Was there a petition? Who listened?
So to sum up, according to you, 99% think like this:
"I hate the SGS II, 16GB AAANND a SDcard slot? They nuts? Just give me 16GB and I'll pay for unlimited data and cloud services. Removable battery? The battery cover is so big and bulky makes the whole phone ugly"
I apologise for all the cinism and critics, no offense to the people that i have cited.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:02 6

5. Outrager (Posts: 8; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)


I feel that if Android phones are going to lose the MicroSD slot they need to give you the option of different SKUs with more internal memory like the iPhone. The One X getting half the storage between the HSPA+ and LTE version is just so weird to me.

Some people might be fine with 16GB while others want at least 32GB. With the cameras getting better and taking larger pictures and also 1080p video recording it would be nice to have the extra internal memory to store all that. Also a lot of games and apps will start utilizing larger textures and other assets to look better on the newer 720p screens.

As for the cloud argument, some people live in areas with slow speeds and some people just aren't willing to pay extra for a higher data limit. If only carriers had affordable unlimited plans.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:04 1

7. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Nice read Michael! What you said really is true about the power we have and ultimately lose when the new technology becomes the norm, so we should do more to influence that tech in its infancy and while we have the only voice OEMs are listening to. I don't think we fully realize how much beta tester-like status can shape the future of technology. Thanks for the new perspective!

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:04

8. flopjoke (Posts: 42; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)


This post actually makes sense. We're not exactly "1%", it's growing.. but yeah, we are the minority who follow the tech news on a regular basis.

But, it's not what they'll use, since if you create a phone with no expansions like iPhone, they'll buy it anyway. But there is a significant group of "casual users" who want a device with everything in it. So they'll go quad-core, 5.3" screen, SD card slot, hologram, time-machine.. just because it's the "latest". They won't really use those features, but the real trend set right now is that the bigger, the better. Be it camera, processor or screen size.. people just want EVERYTHING in one.

So basically, manufacturers do what they want and you can only accept it or whine.. eventually, you'll either wait for your dream phone which will never arrive, or you'll end up buying one of the "trends".

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:06 14

9. GuiltyBystander (Posts: 199; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)


The cloud is nice but the problem is data caps..

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:23 7

12. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


So true. With everything moving to the cloud and online storage, data caps get in the way of constantly streaming and uploading. I'm sure in the future the cloud will include video storage as well, if not steaming services like Netflix hulu and crackle will be, as they currently are, the best alternative to movies taking up internal storage. using these services run through data packages faster than anything else. 2gb can be used in 8 hours. Cloud storage and moving away from sd doesn't bother me at all, but the prospect of fearing overage charges just by accessing that data is maddening.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 17:01 3

39. jabberwocky (Posts: 89; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)


I would add coverage to this. We do not have ubiquitous coverage, making local storage a necessity depending on where you are.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:29 1

13. ph00ny (Posts: 1268; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Expandable memory? Yes
Replaceable Battery? f**k no

If you use your phone for business, replacement battery is a nice thing to have.
Everyone in the office with company assigned iphone ended up with a battery case and android users ended up with extended batteries.

posted on 31 Mar 2012, 14:51 1

15. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Luckily, data cables, iPhone/pod/pad chargers are really cheap on Amazon.com. I charge my phone while using it sometimes, and charging while driving or working at my computer is a big help. And at a buck per cable, it doesn't cost much at all.

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