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The patent office denies Apple's application to trademark the term "multi-touch"

0. phoneArena 27 Sep 2011, 08:26 posted on

The United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has denied Apple's appeal to receive a trademark over the term "multi-touch", saying that it is too descriptive for that. Apple filed the request right after the first iPhone was introduced, hoping to patent one of the selling points in its marketing campaign for the device...

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posted on 28 Sep 2011, 00:28 2

139. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Dumb? Why dumb? Are you incapable of contemplating than an iPhone 4 user can be utterly unsatisfied with his device?

And you can use the same apps on almost all Android phones because the majority of apps \widgets require version 1.5 and above. ALL Android phones have at least that version now. And almost all of them got 2.1+ now - a version which a significant amount of apps\live wallpapers also require.

In addition - you can use custom roms! I saw a T-Mo G1 - the very first Android phone running Gingerbread with widgets and all - smoothly. Can the iPhone 1 run iOS 4? No. Can the iPhone 3G have official multi-tasking? No.

And as I said - in the end of the day it's Android vs iPhone. Just like it's pen vs pencil. Linux vs Windows. Platform war. And Android is winning so far by a large margin.

posted on 28 Sep 2011, 15:05 1

143. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


If things keep moving the way they've been, this will shake out like the Mac/PC war of the 90s. You've got the iPhone (Mac) which brought touchscreen smartphones (windowed GUIs) to the masses, and Android (Windows) which made them cheap, varied and ubiquitous. Sure, there's the occasional Blackberry (Amiga) user remaining, and the stray rabid bada (OS/2) fan, but in the end, most people are going to get an Android phone(Windows PC). iPhones (Macs) will have their loyal following, but they'll remain a proud minority.

(Sorry WP7 fans - couldn't find a place for you in my metaphor.)

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 08:52 2

8. dacastrator (Posts: 232; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Apple is so greedy. Sooooooooo greedy.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:35 1

73. cb2047 (unregistered)


I miss the days when apple products were the cool alternative. They didn't care about having a huge market share and suing everyone...they wanted cool, innovative products that weren't so mainstream. They still do wonders with tech, but now its more for money than pure innovation IMO

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 08:54

9. warrenellis (Posts: 101; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


"i think" is that trademark infringement?

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 08:54 3

10. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4861; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


This is very stupid, it's like trying to trademark Text, Phone, Call or Touch screen. Very silly & futile try by Apple!

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:01 3

11. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


Good, no one should be given exclusive rights to something that has spread everywhere. The USPTO should go through all of Apple's patents and revoke all those generic, can cover anything patents.

Apple wanting to have exclusive rights to multi-touch proves that they want a monopoly over the touchscreen market. And they weren't the ones who invented it either, they just bought out Fingerworks, who didn't invent it either, and claimed they made it.

If anyone should have exclusive rights to it, it should be the University of Toronto who developed the technology in 1982.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:57

50. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


This is NOT a patent but a Trademark, which usually is just for marketing and naming in the same "market"

HUGE difference between Patent and Trademark...

Patent=Supposedly invented or idea.

Trademark=Name for said patent or product/company. aka "Android", "iPhone" etc

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:10 1

61. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


I know, I'm just making a point that Apple wants a monopoly on touch devices. Trademarking the phrase "multi-touch" would make it so other manufactures can't use that word as a selling point for their products.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:09 2

13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


aww, man, there goes taco's main talking point (even though weve proven him wrong over n over again about it) about apple inventing/controlling multitouch.

wooopsie.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:01

53. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


Apple can still hold patents on multi-touch tech and even gestures... and sue with them.

They just don't "own" the term "Multitouch", as they do "Apple Computers" or "iPhone" in the tech industry.

aka anyone can now use "with multitouch technology" on their packaging and branding... Apple cannot sue.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:25 1

65. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Great point. Everyone read his post

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:49

107. shayan (Posts: 159; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


how did they tradmark iphone when there was devices named iphone before that?

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:37

78. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Remix I don't think you understand this article. I claim Apple is the first to have certain gestures on their phone like pinch to zoom, which is still true.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:02

111. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@taco. It's not that they don't understand. They actually do. But android fanboys are cheaters and bullies. They twist things around or divert arguments or make up stuff to their favor. Android fanboys are dirty debaters. They will never work in court, but in fairness to them, they do well in blogsites like this one, lol. Unfortunately for them, their cheap, smart alec approach has no weight in the real world :-)

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:44 2

126. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i think you switched the word "iphone fanboys" and mistakenly put in "android fanboys". looking over the history of this forum, most of the time, when someone is wrong... its an android fanboy.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 15:47

134. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Nope remix. I did not make a mistake. Just read all the posts from android fanboys. They're all hateful. Not just that. A lot of them are premature as well in favor of android. Every time there's an article about a lawsuit, android fanboys prematurely make judgements that Apple will lose or get in trouble. But when Apple ends up being the victor, android fanboys act like they never said anything, or, call the court an isheep. But yes, android fanboys are usually wrong :)

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:10 9

14. dacastrator (Posts: 232; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Apple holds the exclusive rights and trademarks for iFags though.. so it's ok..

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:15 5

16. gotti88 (Posts: 101; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)


you are the greatest for that lol!!!!!! ifag rights!!!!

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:36

29. messiah (Posts: 438; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)


bwah hahah hah ah... that's the funniest post reply in months!!!

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:13 2

15. gotti88 (Posts: 101; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)


darn... apple is eating very good and they want more. what the heck get over yourself its not that serious apple.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:32 1

17. AppleFUD (unregistered)


I was actually shocked that apple would even try to trade mark "multi-touch." But then again I had to remember what apple is really about these days, and it isn't innovation, it is about convincing people via marketing and online FUD that they invented/innovated things that they did nothing other than pull off the shelf, copy, or flat out steal.

Sad, my first computer was a MacBook Pro. . . some years back when Apple was starting to decline. I liked them much better then. At least they made solid products and weren't such d-heads.

Now they are just a patent troll who has to rip off Palm, Blackberry, and Nokia to make a new "smartphone" and then copy Android's features incrementally into their iDevice because they just can't do anything other than spam the EU with design patents and spam the USPTO.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 09:49

18. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


What's sad is that only a few years ago, Apple did innovate. The iPod was a brilliant device with a unique interface. The iPhone brought touchscreen phones and multi-touch to the masses. But by the time the iPad rolled out, nobody was surprised that Apple made a tablet. Now they're laying claim to the very concept of a thin tablet when it was predicted they would make one. That's not innovation, it's clever marketing, which is all Apple's been great at lately.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:05 1

19. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Hows much innovation can you expect from one company. The mac the ipod the iphone the ipad and who knows whats next. Android never innovates they just give phones better sPecs. I am sorry dual core isnt innovation.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:12 1

20. gotti88 (Posts: 101; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)


wow!!!! the attrix has a finger print scanner thats innovation... the status has a fb button thats innovation.... and actually if you tear the iphone down its full of samsung parts and other manual facture parts... so is apple really apple.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:23

23. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Sorry a fb button or a finger print scanner isnt inovation.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:26 1

24. gotti88 (Posts: 101; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)


dude ok.... lol!!!!!!! u make innovation then...

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:33

27. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Did a fb button or finger print scanner completty change phones. No. Look at phones from 2006 to now. Pretty drastic difference. That is how you can tell innovation has occured. Look at the happened to app stores phone browsers and touchscreens in Phones.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:12 1

21. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


This is true, I would only expect one big successful innovation every 5-10 years or so. But Apple rose so quickly on iPhone sales that the company and its shareholders will expect to keep up that growth. If their only way of doing that is by suing their competitors, it's a pretty depressing outlook.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:19

22. gotti88 (Posts: 101; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)


u are correct my friend... apple did change the game but if your going to change the game u have to keep us the public interested rite...!!!! u cant keep coming out with a phone and the only specs u have is a better camera and some breakable glass....

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