The patent office denies Apple's application to trademark the term "multi-touch"

25. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:28 0 2

There not doing so bad apple. There are only the most profitable company in america. Selling more phones then any other company since the og iphone came out i think. Btw applw isnt the one who started this lawsuit war. Innovation isnt a about silicon its about changing the game. Upgrading specs is obvious but thats not whatbapple did. Apple changed computers with the mac change music players with the ipod changed phones with the iphone and created a new segment of computers with the ipad. Not so bad.

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28. roldefol posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:36 1 0

Exactly, they changed the game in 1984, 2001 and 2007. By the time the iPad arrived in 2010, they were changing the industry with marketing more than anything. There's nothing wrong with great marketing, but they can't pretend to be above other companies anymore.

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33. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:40 0 2

They changed the game in 1984,2001,2007,2010 and 2011 isnt over yet :). Who knows whats next. Thats a pretty big deal. Changed four different electronic markets in 25 years.

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31. ngo2dd posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:39 1 0

Really they did not started the law suit war? Did HTC sue Apple first? Who sue first, Samsung or Apple? You do realize that the iPod just a better MP3 player, iPhone is a more user friendly smart phone. Apple did not invent muti touch. MS hold the patient for it,that is why Apple is not going after MS.

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38. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:44 0 1

I think moto sued apple first.http://9to5mac.com/2011/09/24/oh-samsung-you-are-making-this-too-easy/
Plus sammy deserves to be sued. They are copy cats.
Ipod just a better music player are you kidding. It changed music players. Stop trollng

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94. ngo2dd posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:07 1 0

It was the software that change the music player. Really dude. All mp3 at the time was using flash. Apple itunes was the reason. I said nothing about moto. Samsung copy copy really do we have to go there. Yes in the German court they lost but look at the dutch court and can see that they won on design. What about them suing HTC? Unlike you I don't troll I know my fact.

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125. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:43 0 1

You make no sense and didn't even read my post or look at my link.

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127. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:44 0 1

I don't agree with the htc lawsuit btw. I think apple is wrong in that case.

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35. gotti88 posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:42 1 0

nobody is talking down on apple. THEY MADE ALOT OF MONEY BUT THERE INNOVATION CAME 4-5 YEARS AGO... I HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING NEW YET... THERE SEUING COMPANYS OVER THINGS WE HAVENT SEEN THEM CARRY OUT... COME ON... MULTI-TOUCH WAS OUT ON MY ASUS P535 IN 2004

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39. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:47 0 3

Haha your wrong so you now use caps lol. Btw ipad 2010 kind of a big deal. Innovation 5 years ago isnt so bad considering android has never inovated. Besides your post doesnt even make sense english wise.

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42. Me (unregistered) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:51 1 0

I don't understand how you can say the mac changed computers? please enlighten me. I will second the other two users, Apple is being like some small kid who has just gotten too much money and they don't know how to use it.
Seriously the amount they are using on vague patent wars that name a slab of wood as an ipad could have been used to create that truly innovative and truly distinct device. Some of these things were there even before apple got there. The only big up i will give apple is proper marketing and that's all there is.
All i can say is "Grow up Apple and be a man, be the leader you so want to be and stop wasting time crying over some vague patents."

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51. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:58 0 1

Things like the mouse, making it easier to use, design, and so so so much more. I am not wasting my time explaining to you all the things which was so special about the mac.

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26. darth8ball posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:31 2 0

The ipod, iphone, and ipad were all nothing other than making other companies products more user friendly and a great job of remarketing them to the masses. Not one of those products didn't exist before they were Apple Branded.

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30. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:38 0 2

You clearly dont understand inovation try reading one of my posts before. Have you seen music players pre ipod. You kidding me the og ipod still is better then any other music player ten years later. It freaking changed music players. How is that just making something easier to use.

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44. darth8ball posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:52 2 0

Look up Audio Highway's Listen Up the first mp3 player, other than some UI and general design changes by Apple, what else didn't it do?

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62. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:17 0 3

It didnt cost 75grand and you could go jogging with it because its smaller and so on. Otherwise i am not sure because very little is known about it. Except that it sucked. The ipod changed music players.http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2023689_2023681_2023609,00.html
That audio highway was a joke

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63. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:22 0 3

And you could store more then a hour of music content

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43. Me (unregistered) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:52 1 0

True that

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34. remixfa posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:41 5 0

wow bio

concidering android has like 50,000 more features than iOS, and most of them are google innovations, id say your about as far off as you can be.

also, what has apple actually innovated?

many of the best features on an iphone come from google. I wonder how well maps and navigation would work if google hadnt taken it apon themselves to circumvent the globe and get accurate readings of everything. Most every maping service on a cell phone ties in to google maps at some points for info.

i wonder how much fun the internet would be if we were still relying on alta Vista instead of google search... or NFC.. or picture search.. or location search and sharing.. or a bazillion other things google has come up with that make EVERYONEs life easier if they realise it or not.

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36. gotti88 posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:42 1 0

ur correct...

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37. gotti88 posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:43 2 0

this bio dude is still talking about the ipod ipad and all that stuff... come on dude

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49. Me (unregistered) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:56 1 0

Its sad. Dude doesn't even know who he/she stands for (HTC logo). For one thing i respect apple is proper market research and marketing. That is it. All the technologies they use were there before and all they did is market it better than everyone else. That's all.

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55. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:02 2 1

You cant back any of what you said up. Btw its an htc and apple logo. I love both of them for their great products they both make.

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46. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:53 1 0

Google inovated when they created there search engine. Thats changed how we look up data. Thats a big deal to me. With regards to phones features arent inovating. Widgets didnt change the phone industry the iphone did. Google has innovated for sure but never with android. They just provide the best specs and most features and customization. Which isnt inovating. They make great phones but they dont change the industry

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52. gotti88 posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:00 2 0

lol!!!! im done... his sense of innovation is a mure blinder to what the real definition is... come on dude innovation means game changer basically... customization is a major game changer,,, android is responsible for that bro... apple brings different hardware but really they dont because if u again breakdown the inside of apple they are using every manufature in the world bro... but in the end apple is getting ridiculous with sueing companies man thats all im saying man.. if u going to be the best then be the best... android made it to the top without out lawsuits

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59. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:06 0 1

O really android has never sued anyone. You might want to checj your facts bro. Customazitiin changed the game. I am sorry but i havent seen any change in the industry with regards to customization. However after the iphone i have seen increases in app stores touchscreens full web browsers mutiple page homescreen and so much more. Thats inovation. Apple has a right to sue they can protect their intellectual property. Doesnt mean they dont inovate

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92. remixfa posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:05 2 0

bio, go a month without using a single google product on your phone, computer, life.

welcome back to 1994.


google has changed the tech world so much you dont seem to have any idea about how many times you touch their services on a daily basis.

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129. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:45 0 2

Did you even read what i said about google does innovate and android doesn't. You complain about tacos reading but u aren't so much better.

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97. darth8ball posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:18 2 0

Innovation and refinement are two different things.
innovation = Mobile technology (no wires)
refinement = making mobile technogy better
innovation = computers
refinement = Personal computers
Coming out with something new is innovation making it better is refinement. Apple is GREAT at refinement, but IMO not an innovator.

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80. taco50 (banned) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:42 0 6

Bio is completely right. Android has been evolutionary. They took what iOS did and built on it. iPhone has been revolutionary.

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93. remixfa posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:06 2 0

the iphone wasnt revolutionary. It took existing technology and presented it in a new way.. thats evolution, not revolution

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88. darth8ball posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:01 2 0

Don't even try to change the mind of an isheep. In their minds Apple is the end all be all of tecnological existence. If it wasn't for Apple there wouldn't be smartphones, mp3 players, or tablets.
Now I hear that Apple is going to start making Tv's and I'm sure they will create that device as well.....LOL

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79. taco50 (banned) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:41 0 4

So remix give us some examples of androids innovation?

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91. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:04 2 0

I don't know.... maybe

-Malleable appi's (that's for manufacturers to work all their goodies out)
-Direct device push
-smartphone voice recognition
-Smartphone NCF
-Advanced cloud sync for both contacts, settings etc.
-Smartphone USB hosting
-A computer File system

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98. darth8ball posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:20 2 0

have to agree with you on all but one. I had direct push on my windows phone before Android

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102. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:36 2 0

So you could install apps and send urls and files to your phone with no cable and without using a shared network?

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121. darth8ball posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:55 2 0

by direct push I thought you were refering to direct push email. (not having to sign on to check if an email was received, instant noticfication)
There were no apps, and you could send data to your phone wirelessly though email.
But for all else yes wired sync was nesessary

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122. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:11 2 0

My bad I should have being more specific

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109. taco50 (banned) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:58 0 2

Malleable api's isn't innovation it's just giving access to the system

Direct device push?

Voice recognition isn't new even to smartphones, but android expanded on it.

Smartphone NFC is hardware

Apple had had cloud sync since iPhone 1

File system had been available on windows mobile since way before android was out.

Smartphone USB hosting?

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114. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:12 1 0

-it's not just giving away system files wish it was just that simple.

-means you can send stuff to your device though cloud

-Voice recognition was not by any chance close to how it works on android. But touchscreens existes on smartphones didn't it?

-retina, accelerometer, giro are all hardware

-you know what the word filesystem means? Every device needs one but the one. Used for most its a smartphone filesystem, android now managed to fully port ext filesystem for the os.

-means your phone or tablet can have any device plugged to it and it will work (someone bragged about 90%)

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117. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 13:16 1 0

And you could login into you itunes account on your phone and have your apps pushed back to you, and your settings?

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130. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:48 0 2

None of those are innovations because none of those changed the industry.

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131. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 15:05 2 0

NfC is about to.

Second what's the meaning to the word innovation? Regales of weather it creates a trend or not innovation its innovation. It's to make something rather different, now that it generates a trend is different. The atrix laptop dock was innovative and got an award on ctia for being Innovative, the galaxy S2 new gestures are innovative yet they are not trendy, same with the tweaks done by sense from htc.

Just because it does not become popular does not make them inovati

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132. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 15:13 1 0

Industry is not changed by innovation but rather By how this innovation becomes popular by the average user

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136. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 17:36 0 1

Industry do get changed by innovation. Adding a small feature isn't innovation. Innovation is a something that should change how you think about a product.

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137. protozeloz posted on 27 Sep 2011, 17:54 1 0

So any of those things don't make androids Different? I mean won't those Things also be added to new os's eg ios and wp7? How small you consider those Things are? Industry gets changed by trends trends of things that have being changed. Define innovation

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138. AppleFUD (unregistered) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 18:14 1 0

You do realize that the iPod is a direct knock off from an inventor in the UK? Apple even used him to defend themselves against other patent lawsuits over the iPod, but did they pay the man for his ideas? not that I'm aware off. . .

And when I say direct knock off I really mean it's blatant, near identical just upgraded with the tech of the day--larger copacity.

then we get to the iphone. . . we ought to realize that the co-founders of Google in 2001 were looking to create an internet enabled device and were carrying around sidekicks. Who were they bff's with at that time? Steve J. . . and you now know the rest of the story as to where the iphone came from, thus Steve's hypocritical rants towards Google to deflect from his own guilty actions.

47. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 10:55 1 0

Thats not what people want. Most people dont want to play with there phone not stop changing it. They just want it to work. Some people do have lives you know.

54. gotti88 posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:01 0 0

dude if thats the case where is your life at right now.. because im at work on phonearena...

60. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:07 0 0

Im in class as a college student bored as hell.

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69. gotti88 posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:30 0 0

i respect you for that dude... and u have some good points... lol!!!!!! whats ur facebook name!!!???

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77. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:36 0 0

Glad we can come to a mutual understanding. However i would like to keep my facebook private

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99. darth8ball posted on 27 Sep 2011, 12:22 0 0

And that is why you don't know any better than to blindly follow Apple. You are in class to learn not to troll PA. Pay attention and you might learn something more then " I want Apple because everyone has one so it must be the best, Apple invented everything so they must be the best"(in robot voice)

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124. biophone posted on 27 Sep 2011, 14:42 0 0

Yeah to bad I already now everything the teacher has to say. Its boring as hell way to easy.

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56. duder (unregistered) posted on 27 Sep 2011, 11:03 0 0

i love the apple is the most profitable speal from the i-diots when apple comp is giving the os out for free