The new iPhone may yet be called the new iPhone, so what does the 5 mean?
0. phoneArena 04 Sep 2012, 21:04 posted on
Earlier, Apple finally made it official that there will be an event on September 12th, and it is pretty much certain that will be when Apple announces the new iPhone. In the invitation, there was the shadow of a number 5, which made it seem pretty certain...
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1. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)
I'm still uncertain as to why everyone called the the upcoming iPhone as the "iPhone 5." The iPhone 4S is the iPhone 5. Either the person who started the rumor was an idiot or couldn't count.
6. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 245; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
My money is that they can't count, with education these days its not surprising. Especially people who own smartphones are carrying around a pocket sized computer with internet access where they can easily look stuff up but choose not to do so.
9. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
The rumor was started because it seemed unlikely that Apple would call it the iPhone 6, because then people would constantly ask, "What happened to 5?" People don't care how many iPhones there have been, people just like numerical consistency. If you go from 3 to 4 (even if that's not what the name actually means), you either go to 5 or you drop the numbers, you don't go to 6.
16. HäckeMáte (Posts: 168; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
to this day I still refuse to call it the iPhone 5. In my head this is the 6th gen iPhone, but to NOT confuse ppl I would call it "the new iPhone".
However, since most ppl dont know any better, they just kept refering to it as the iPhone 5. I cant stand it when ppl ask me when the iPhone 5 is coming out. I always reply: "you mean the new iPhone?"
20. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Hi Michael, I have a question.
So if this thing is called the "new" iPhone, what would be the successor of this be called? Same with the "new" iPad?
The next iPad? What do you have in mind?
23. Commentator (Posts: 2557; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Apple's gotten along perfectly fine for years without having to call their Macbooks or iPods anything but "Macbook" and "iPod."
I'm sorry for not being Michael.
31. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
No need to apologize. I think your idea is solid. Apple generally doesn't need numbers in the official name of products, and just uses unofficial generation indicators.
The only trouble with that idea is that it assumes Apple will only have one version of each device on the market. It works for all the other products because there is only one official Macbook or iPod Nano. But, if Apple is going to keep selling older iPhones, and iPads, its going to have to rebrand the older versions next year.
Maybe we'll see next year, the new iPad/iPhone, the iPad/iPhone, and the iPad/iPhone Classic?
25. lyndon420 (Posts: 1831; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Maybe every year they will just call it the new iProduct? The newest iProduct? The newerer iProduct?
30. E.N. (Posts: 2380; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I guess we'll just have to wait a year to find out, or at least until the newer iPad is released, lol.
as for iPhone 5 vs iPhone 6. I agree its stupid that people call it the iPhone 5, but I have to say the iPhone 5 does have a better ring to it than iPhone 6.
46. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
iphone 5 is the name that was given to the larger screen, LTE iPhone before the 4s came out. It was all based on speculation at that point, but many people were thinking we would get the 5 last year and not just the 4s. As soon as the disappointment set in, everyone started asking when we would actually see the iPhone 5. the name is tied to rumors well over a year old. It has very little to do with this being the 6th iPhone.
I do think apple will drop the numeric tags this time around since there is no clear way to make any sense of it.
34. -box- (Posts: 3913; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I dunno, jumping to 4 made a lot of folks incorrectly assume it was a 4G phone, which only the AT&T version of the 4S is (barely).
35. -box- (Posts: 3913; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Interesting: the photo of the alleged boxes show just 4 rows of icons plus the dock row. Maybe no elongated screen after all, or no added functionality of the larger size?
53. DonkeySauce (Posts: 168; Member since: 03 Dec 2011)
Apple's days are numbered. The new iPhone will undoubtedly sell very well, but I don't think we'll see any huge innovations. Rather, several small upgrades. As Steve Jobs' influence fades, Apple will become more and more bureaucratic, much like in the early 90's and the products will suffer. The only thing that has made Apple work in the last several years is that they went to extremes, and gambled on their products. They had a winning streak.. Either way, they'll only be kept afloat for so long by the Apple sheep....
2. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
the girl in the picture... yea shes probably dead by now.
and to cover it up, apple told foxconn to throw her out the window of her dormitory and make it look like a suicide.
8. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
hahahaha this is what i just have in mind :))
27. HäckeMáte (Posts: 168; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
Tim Cook prob gave you that thumbsdown...
...I would lay low for a few days there Bucko lol
3. katstackdiss (Posts: 3; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
I'm guessing because of the IPod nano, iPod shuffle,IPod touch, iphone, ipadmini or IPs 6.1
7. cGmC11 (Posts: 118; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
It's not the current iPhone 4S the 5 Gen? In that case the next will be the 6 Gen!
11. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Generation has nothing to do with the numbering system. Of course, that could be why Tim Cook is killing the numbers.
24. ScottSchneider (Posts: 323; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
Though I have a doubt... How will you call this upcoming iPhone when the phone is an year old from now... The "New iPhone" or the 5th or even the 6th Generation iPhone..
10. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3043; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Who cares what they call the iPhone? Nobody, its the next one to come out and that's all that matters.
It should be called the 5 because the 4S was really just the 4.5 anyway.
13. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
There's someone who obviously didn't make it to the end of the article...
15. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3043; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
People actually are arguing over what the name should be, its just silly. When they actually put LTE on it, call it the iPhone LTE.
12. cGmC11 (Posts: 118; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
That mean 5 years from the first iPhone in 2007 to the 6 Gen in 2012!
17. Sniggly (Posts: 7199; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I like your theory, Michael. It makes more sense than anything else I've heard so far about that name.
I'm actually disappointed with how well all the rumors nailed the probable design of the phone. I couldn't riff on them like I did with all of the conflicting rumors last year.
19. protozeloz (Posts: 5383; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
HA! I was not cray when I said my theory about the 5 being a possible referral to the screen and the fact that now is 5 rows
45. andro. (Posts: 1974; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
If it is intact over 5 rows of icons and apple is parading it as something miraculous then apple are well and truly done for as far as innovation and progression is concerned.
54. Fallout09 (Posts: 419; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Magical.... We can now show 5 rows of icons! Looks like someone put in a lot of overtime. Apple think tank at its best!
21. JessJess (unregistered)
5 years, 5 rows of icons, Media calling it iPhone '5' .. it all seems to tie in.
I don't think anyone really thought that 5 meant it would be called the iPhone 5, not after 'The new iPad' it would have been strange. It does make me wonder what the next iPhone/iPad is going to be called though. Are they going to ditch numbers from now on and call each refresh 'The new...' ?
40. itreday (Posts: 68; Member since: 24 May 2012)
If they do ditch the numbers there just gonna name it by generation or year like they do the iPod and MacBooks.
22. karansaini (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
LOOL wtf is this. i dont get why people even think it would be called 'the new iPhone'. the only reason the iPad was called 'the new iPad' instead of iPad 3 was coz Apple got threatened of being dragged to court from some chinese company coz they already had a product called iPad 3 -__- obviously the 5 in the invitation means iPhone 5 not 5 rows of icons HAHAHA
and the picture that says 'the new iphone' is fake.
28. Commentator (Posts: 2557; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Apple's needed to get its iPhone naming system straight for awhile now. The second-gen was called "3G", after the fact that it had 3G, and the third-gen added an "S", whatever that's supposed to mean. Then suddenly Apple completely changed its technique and named the 4th-gen after its iteration number "4". Then they added the ambiguously-defined "S" to the 5th generation. This seems awkward and, in my opinion, dilutes the iPhone brand (not that the iPhone has ANY problem with brand-recognition anyways.)
Not that Apple is the only manufacturer to use confusing naming systems for their smartphones, but it seems odd that a company that produces several other product lines (e.g. Macbook Pro, iMac, iPod Nano) and DOESN'T add a confusing designation to the end has been doing it for years with its bread-and-butter device.
29. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
i think they will announce iPhone 5 if its already in 5G technology... but as for now new iPhone it is...
32. Obdabeast (Posts: 41; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
if they call it the "new" iphone.. like they stupidly decided to do with the newest ipad to come out... whats the next one gonna be called after ?? the new new iphone ? the newer iphone ?? .. the new iphone 2 ?? what great innovation.. people who didn't like the bigger screens of the androids ( 4' and up) are gonna go head over heels about the "perfect" size of this one.. people are so stupid...
33. kingpin81486 (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
I have a feeling that isn't the actual iPhone display box because it is showing only one feature on the side iOS 6 and I feel apple still has a feature up their sleeve that we don't know about yet like Siri with the 4s. (NFC,Optical Zoom Camera, something). And I don't think the "New iPad" says "New iPad" on the side of the box i think it just says iPad.
38. itreday (Posts: 68; Member since: 24 May 2012)
It isn't the real box.. Still has YouTube app.
37. itreday (Posts: 68; Member since: 24 May 2012)
FAKE! It still has the YouTube app on the iPhone on the box which they are removing in ios 6 if you look closely.
41. linkismyhero (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
You have read that iOS 6 may not be availble for the New iPhone right out of the box, correct? It may be a download that you grab after the fact.
EDIT: My bad, on the box it says iOS 6. Hmm.
42. paulyyd (Posts: 327; Member since: 08 Jan 2011)
Lol oh man you're so clever. The 5 represents the extra row of icons? Can you say fanboy?
55. itreday (Posts: 68; Member since: 24 May 2012)
I doubt they would use the 5 to hint a extra row of icons.. That's pretty stupid. I think It's either hinting iPhone 5 or 5 new devices.
43. xtian1103 (Posts: 361; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
i guess the 5 means there are other devices/features to be unveiled besides the iphone
44. poddey (Posts: 76; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
I think we are more likely to see the Apple call the new iPhone the, erm, "new iPhone", following the naming of the "new iPad", but I see that as a wasted marketing opportunity. Apple should instead be saving the "new" tag for a major revamp in design and/or iOS. We've seen iOS 6 and the handset leaks. Sure there are many more improvements but it doesn't look like there's anything revolutionary about to happen here.
47. darkkjedii (Posts: 13366; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I'm an iOS/iPhone guy, but MAN I hope that's not the next iPhone. If it is I won't be getn it. I will b getn the Gnote2 either way tho.
57. Alistaire (Posts: 132; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
oh good, then every man will have to carry a purse.. uhm... I mean a man's bag... What is up with all these large screen that don't fit into any jeans pocket.
50. o.parker (Posts: 4; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
I wouldn't have though it would say ' new iphone' on the box... it ould probably just say 'Iphone' like the new ipad....!
51. o.parker (Posts: 4; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
if its supposed to have LTE, what about the iphone 4g... like when it first included 3g technology
52. redsox420 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
A warning? More like f**king censorship is more like it. PhoneyArena is a joke. f**k this Im out. Delete comments. Pusscakes
56. Alistaire (Posts: 132; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Don't care about the new iphone. Seriously annoyed by the small improvement iphone to iphone. Apple thinks everyone has lots of $$ to burn? And what is up with the problematic home button that seems to get stuck or unresponsive after a year?
Switched from Iphone 4 to Lumia 900 and could not be happier. Can wait to get the Lumia 920 and a new W8 tablet. It's the 1st time I'm so excited about a new (non-apple) product after been using Mac since 1998.
I do need a new Ipod nano for music, hopefully there is an updated one soon.