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The iPhone 5S display may sport two times the pixel count of the iPhone 5, come with thinner bezel

0. phoneArena 28 May 2013, 03:50 posted on

If Apple managed to score enough yield with Sharp's IGZO displays, which allow record pixel densities in a thin and light package which has a very low power consumption, there might be some merit to this rumor, and the source says it will enter production next month for a release in September, which jibes with the launch rumors we've heard so far...

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posted on 28 May 2013, 06:32 2

58. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1619; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Well you keep making the mistake every time....

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:36 1

60. quadrazeus (Posts: 359; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Promising a blue moon and not bringing one, isn't that a mistake?

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:14 1

21. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5530; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Depends on what happens to the bezel and the home button. Replace the home button with a new sapphire fingerprint scanner, and you might get to 4.3 inch screen measure in the current chassis footprint.

Stay tuned.

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:44 1

29. Klamba92 (Posts: 195; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


I can see it now they will either call it super retina, hyper retina or just the new retina display! Don't see the point in this if they are going to stick with the same screen size. Also if there will have a thinner bezel why not add more screen to it like a 4.3inches and at least a 720p HD resolution?

posted on 28 May 2013, 04:50

31. boosook (Posts: 898; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


LOL! Still forced to double the resolution as their OS and app still don't automatically adapt to different resolutions... and of course the same size, this mean that there will be little difference. Same 4'' display... the apps will look the same.

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:13 1

37. iEpic (Posts: 6; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


Doesn't matter about pixel density anymore in my opinion. If pixels cant be seen with the naked eye, what's the point of improving it? Just add more features like the GS4. Apple lacks creativity.

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:41 5

39. selena1000 (Posts: 83; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


when samsung puts high resolution display on s4 it really matters but when Apple do it then the resolution doesnt matter??? u should really get a life fanboy

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:58

47. giri555 (Posts: 95; Member since: 15 Mar 2012)


He said pixel density and not resolution.

posted on 28 May 2013, 12:38

134. ecmedic4 (Posts: 193; Member since: 02 May 2013)


It doesn't matter what he said, Selena's point still stands that if it was samsung or anyone other than Apple, it would be a big deal, innovative, etc.. but since ppl have to be immature and hate on Apple no matter what they do, its just so so. Need to realize that not everyone has the same preferences as some of you fanboys, so please get a life and get over it.

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:00

49. boosook (Posts: 898; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


if you put a higher resolution display which is, at the same time, bigger, it makes a difference because you can actually "see more things". Going from the 4.8'' 720 x 1280 display of the S3 to the 5'' 1080x1920 display of the S4 is a real improvement, albeit you might not consider it as a massive one increasing the resolution together with the screen size (and increasing the resolution MORE than screen size so that even ppi is increased) actually IS an improvement.
But what happens if Apple really doubles the resolution but leaves the display size unchanged? You won't be able to see more things on the display. The apps and os will look the same. You'll see the same amount of information (icons, list elements and so on). Now you might say that you'll gain definition, and this is true, but wait... when Apple released the first Retina display (220 ppi) they claimed that it had "the maximum pixel density that a human eye could see"! So, either they were lying or doubling the resolution on the iphone 5 is useless. The truth is, of course, in the middle: 220ppi was not the maximum density (so they were lying), as you can see now that these 5'' fullHD displays are stunningly sharp. So there is a margin for a resolution increase, anyway if this is not coupled with a screen size increase it will be almost useless (you won't see much difference, since the iphone5 is already sharp enough).

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:11 1

51. giri555 (Posts: 95; Member since: 15 Mar 2012)


Check out HTC ONE, 4.7 inch, with higher PPI than S4 or XZ with 440ppi. HTC ONE looks better.

posted on 28 May 2013, 05:44 1

40. giri555 (Posts: 95; Member since: 15 Mar 2012)


Yawn, PPI war is over and already won by HTC one, Xperia Z, Samsung S4.

Apple is trying to catchup somehow.

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:58 1

68. quadrazeus (Posts: 359; Member since: 03 May 2013)


There are no ppi wars. iPhone 5 was introduced last year, whereas all the flagships with higher FHD resolutions were launched this year!
If apple goes with higher ppi, it's not about winning any kind of *war*, but increasing the standard of their already awesome display.

posted on 28 May 2013, 07:44 3

78. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Before the iPhone 4 all phones had around 200 ppi displays, Apple innovated when they introduced the iPhone 4 with a 326ppi display in june 2010, the first high res android smartphone display (720p) was (i think) the Galaxy nexus, but still had less ppi, after a year and a half (october 2011) but now competition is catching up with Apple, and they surpassed them this year (440-460ppi). It took them a year and a half to catch up and two years and a half to surpass them. That would be great if we see such a high res display on the iPhone 5S or 6, after all, Apple is the king when ti comes to resolution and ppi wars (the iPad 3, first tablet to have a higher resolution than 1280x800 (it took the competiton 8 months to catch up), the first 5M pixel laptop with a resolution higher than 1080p (it took the competiton a year but can we consider the chromebook pixel a laptop?))

posted on 28 May 2013, 08:37 1

90. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


It wasn't *all* phones though. Does anyone remember the LG enV Touch? 800x480 / 3" = 311 ppi. Apple just made the 300+ ppi screen a well-known, highly desired feature. They didn't vastly exceed the 2010 state of the art though.

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:17 1

52. Bozzor (Posts: 99; Member since: 02 May 2012)


There are a lot of technical "if"s here, but this would make perfect sense for Apple. First, it would be simple for developers to simply scale up their apps. Beyond 400ppi, even the sharpest eyes looking at the screen from very close could not notice any real differences with displays of 600ppi or more. Apple could simply offer the current 4 inch display as Classic, a larger 4.7 inch one as a Max, and a 5.5 inch or so as Pro. Cater to every size whim, whilst keeping developers happy. That would also allow it to increase margin on the larger handsets and also take back share from Android.

On the downside, whilst IGZO displays would be very efficient, that would need to weighed against the sheer processor power needed to run such a display.

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:50

65. giri555 (Posts: 95; Member since: 15 Mar 2012)


You imaging things that would most probably never happen.

posted on 28 May 2013, 06:34

59. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1619; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Will never happen...

posted on 28 May 2013, 07:35

75. ajac09 (Posts: 1341; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


love the over blown iphone rumors every year.

posted on 28 May 2013, 10:59

119. Taters (Posts: 2584; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


They reused the same panel for all the 3's, and reused the same panel for the 4 and 4s. I highly doubt that Apple will buck that trend anytime soon, especially since they are still stinking rich.

posted on 28 May 2013, 11:25

120. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


It would also force developers to accommodate yet another resolution on top of the existing three. I think this leak is about the 2014 iPhone 6.

posted on 28 May 2013, 11:27 1

121. PhoneCritic (Posts: 352; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


I don't think Apple will change the specs dramatically of the next iPhone ( why should they it's fine the way it is). The 5s will be a refresh with a bump up in processor and GPU I believe the iOS will be the bigger change. Some new features will be added ( things that are already in use by other manufactures) we may see the adoption of NFC ( with a Apple twist iBuy< because they refined how it can be used with their device>) Bluetooth file transfer, (with a Apple twist iBlue < because they refined how it can be used with their device>) This is the typical Apple pattern that has worked well for them. I believe the iPhone 6 is where we will see the major hardware overhaul. Apple is stuck in between two Paradigms if it abandons it's current model that caters to ease and simplicity it will alienate many of it's user base. If it plays it safe and continues it's current model then it will lose many of it's user-base because it will seem to be lagging behind. (Apple has created such a good brand (iOS) and following that it can't risk changing it to drastically but if it doesn't it continues to fall behind. This is what happen during the PC-Mac wars and the position that Rim Found it'self in not to long ago. Apple has to really step lightly and carefully. That's why Iveys is going for the safe bet of flatting iOS- it's a lower risk maneuver in my opinion

posted on 28 May 2013, 12:28

133. alanaldo (Posts: 5; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


WHATS ALL THE HYPE WITH THE NEW IPHONE 5S? ALL I HEAR IS NEW DISPLAY NEW DESIGN.. ITS ALL CRAP ! NOTHING IS GONNA CHANGE IT WILL STAY THE SAME LIKE ALWAYS! ITS GONNA LOOK JUST THE SAME! ALL WE CAN EXPECT IS NEW APPS SIRI THATS IT DONT GET UR HOPES UP!

posted on 28 May 2013, 12:53

136. ecmedic4 (Posts: 193; Member since: 02 May 2013)


The iPhone 5 design vs 4S design was a bigger change than the S4 was from the S3. So really your comment holds no ground, except for your trolling and hating on Apple simply because you dont like them. The S4 looks very close to the design of the S3, and they put in new apps, so kinda the same thing as what your saying about the iPhone.

posted on 29 May 2013, 00:26

149. Taters (Posts: 2584; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Samsung made a small jump once in their entire life and people take that as gospel. I suggest you look at the GS2 vs. the GS2 LTE, even variations of the same model has more differences than the iphone 4s and the iphone 5.

Stop being a dense.

posted on 28 May 2013, 14:26

138. belovedson (Posts: 830; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


somehow this sounds full of crap..

thinner bezel and higher resolution and faster speeds = heavier battery use.

these cellphone makers are getting ridiculous every iteration of the next model uses more juice

posted on 28 May 2013, 17:08

144. speckledapple (Posts: 877; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


And yet no person could ever tell. The screen wars is getting a little nutty.

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