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The iPhone 5S' 64-bit processor is for marketing not performance benefits

0. phoneArena 10 Sep 2013, 23:43 posted on

Apple's iPhone 5S announcement today was a very strange one for Apple, because Apple more often than not focuses on the software side of things rather than digging into specs and hardware. But, today's announcement had the Apple team basically skimming over all of the iOS 7 changes, and focusing on the big hardware changes of the iPhone 5S like the fingerprint scanner, camera, and new 64-bit A7 processor...

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posted on 10 Sep 2013, 23:48 53

1. mr.techdude (Posts: 571; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Apple think that most consumers are just stupid but they know that isheeps are just plainly thick headed.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 00:02 39

9. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Take a look at any Android fanboy talking about the Moto X and you'll see that it's not just a problem with Apple users.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 00:19 6

15. sam_tek (Posts: 105; Member since: 18 Feb 2011)


I used to think Michael is just an Apple Fanboy, than thought he was just an android hater, then I began to think he's quite unbiased but just plain arrogant in his approach. And other times, I don't know what to think!

Michael, you are quite the enigma.

But mostly, I think he just calls spade a spade - with a bit of an attitude. :)

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 00:24 1

18. sam_tek (Posts: 105; Member since: 18 Feb 2011)


I like your work. Not run of the mill, and you often question. Great.

posted on 17 Dec 2013, 16:26

116. pawn3d (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Dec 2013)


I think we're all giving him too much credit. He's just a mediocre tech troll who spams controversial propoganda to increase the site's ad revenue... Now, if he doesn't get paid by Phone Arena, then he's a bigger buffon than once thought.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 00:36

21. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)


True that. Active display and the shake-launch-camera thingy is super awesome though! I just wish Active Display feature was more customizable though.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 00:52 4

24. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


So, it is like Nokia announcing the 41 megapixel sensor in the 1020 or 808, but only capable of taking 5 megapixel photos???
Why in the world would Apple do that if the 4GB RAM barrier is light years away from being broken (In Apple\'s terms?

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 01:58 7

29. hmmm... (Posts: 78; Member since: 05 Jun 2013)


It is nothing like Nokia. Nokia\'s camera takes a 38mp picture and super sample it to 5mp. You get to keep the original 38mp as well as the 5mp which is used for uploading to save bandwidth. Many people don\'t know how Nokia\'s camera work. You\'re not alone though. But you got one and use it, then you will understand how cool it actually is.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 08:17

70. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I do know how it works...i don't blame you
though. My way of expressing an example
was a l'le out of tune.
By 'It is like Nokia...' i meant, "it is as if
Nokia..."
You know, Imagine Nokia marketing the capable 41 megapixel sensor but in reality, it
can only take 5 megapixel photos.
Comprende?

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:48

84. amasog (Posts: 351; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)


just do some research first about the 41mp sensor on the phones you mentioned so that you wont look idi()tic!

1st, 808 can do 8mp shot in PV mode & 38mp in normal mode.

others? its for you to know!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:55

86. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4004; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Well, before telling me to do some research will you please see comment #70? Yes, the one right above you...i'm just giving an example.
Chill buster.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 03:12

32. boosook (Posts: 1437; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


So true, Michael, so true!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 04:19 6

39. GeekMovement (Posts: 2156; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


Not all android fans are excited about the moto x so to say \\\"take a look at ANY android fanboy...\\\" is a bit over the line.
Apple fans only have the iPhone to look at (: so whether they like it or not, they usually accept it anyways.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 05:35 1

52. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Motorola Moto X has mid-range SoC with fancy X8 name on it and it is same marketing as Apple does with 64-bit A7 CPU.

Motorola Moto X is assembled in U.S. and Americans are not working for low payment as Asian workers does and it automatically lifts the price tag. And it is one of the main reasons why Motorola Moto X use yesterdays hardware because in such way Motorola can lower product's price. And all this new TREND OF LOWER SPECS AWESOMENESS is just a Motorola's propaganda - inflatable hype (the way to compensate high price tag).

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 05:49

55. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I don't say that Motorola Moto X is a bad smartphone, because it is not bad. In overall view it is very balanced and good device, but there is no need to trick people that X8 SoC is something super awesome and that since now less performance is magically better than more performance. X8 SoC is yesterdays hardware with minimal upgrade and fancy X8 name on it to attract average users eye.

P.S.
I'm not a fanboy, Michael.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 06:20 3

58. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


But your overall suggestion - that using a dual core processor makes the Moto X only "not bad" and therefore not worthy - is what Michael has been fighting here. No matter how many reviews tell us about smooth performance and gaming prowess, diehard Android fans are still stuck on "bigger (and only bigger) is better". You continue to dismiss well rounded performers like the iPhone 5, Lumia 92x and Moto X.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 06:41

59. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I don't say that Motorola Moto X hardware can't handle the latest games or apps (at least for today). I just say that Moto X hardware is not high-end.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 07:39 1

63. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Which is exactly what Apple haters have said all along about every new iPhone since the 4S - if it doesn't have a big screen and top of the line processor, it isn't high-end. But there are dozens of huge, highly-powered Androids out there in China. Are they really high-end, or just wannabes?

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 09:42 1

80. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"But there are dozens of huge, highly-powered Androids out there in China. Are they really high-end, or just wannabes?"

In my opinion high-end device is device wich has high build quality, high-end hardware and latest software. If these Chinese smartphones match these criterias then they are high-end devices.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:59

88. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Would you pay $200-300 on contract for one though? Or $700 full price?

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 13:56 1

93. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I don't know anything about smartphones you are talking about, i just said that In my opinion high-end device is device wich has high build quality, high-end hardware and latest software. If these Chinese smartphones match these criterias then they are high-end devices. Also I'm from Europe and there I buy phones without any contracts, full price. :)

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 14:31

95. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


The point I keep trying to make - and writers like Michael are on board with - is that hardware specs alone don't dictate a great device. If the hardware and software are a good match, you don't need the biggest, fastest CPU on the market. You need what works well and gives you a great, smooth user experience. That's what you're spending money on.

Apple has understood this all along. They put most of their emphasis on GPU performance and build/materials quality. That's what people like about iPhones - the look, the feel, the smoothness. They don't even tell you that the iPhone 5 is a 1.3 Ghz dual-core, because it's irrelevant. Motorola tried to do the same with the X8, but ultimately they had to admit that yes, it's "only" a dual-core S4. But that doesn't matter, because the phone they put it in is well-built, feels great, and runs smoothly. They took a page from the iPhone playbook.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 15:41 1

98. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


And the Moto X failed, cause it didn't use DragonTrail glass or Aluminum or steel on it's devices, unlike iP4, and 5. Even the iP4s GPU is much better than Motos X device.
™

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 16:01

100. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


The phone was just released two weeks ago and it's already failed? Interesting. All's I know is I played with one in store the other day and it was comfortable to hold, well built, nicely sized, and was smooth and speedy. Whether that translates into sales against the (plastic) G2 and S4 is yet to be seen. The only fail I see is their silly exclusivity deal with AT&T in the US on the 32 GB version.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 06:46 4

60. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2147; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


But the thing is, most Apple fanboys are blind unlike the Android fans!

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 15:33 1

97. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


What's wrong with MichaelHeller nowadays...... He is siding with Apple users!
We thought you was an Android, Fandroid™

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 16:02

101. roldefol (Posts: 4332; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Michael is a true critic. He calls out BS and hypocrisy on all sides.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 00:47 1

22. konnor (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Apr 2013)


I think you mean "zombies". At least that's what the NSA likes to call them.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 06:18 1

57. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Apple did this thinking of the future. It might not take full advantage of the 64bit but it makes developers want to support it so that in the future the next iPhone can fully use 64bit architecture. Either way, 2x cpu and gpu performance and the new open gl still make a pretty good cpu. Not the fastest but still able to provide the smooth experience that iOS brings. And it will still run games with the same quality as android flagships if not better.

posted on 11 Sep 2013, 11:41

83. Santi_Santi (unregistered)


devs are lazy

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