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The debate over why the HTC One Max will not have a Snapdragon 800

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The debate over why the HTC One Max will not have a Snapdragon 800
Yesterday, we saw a post on Weibo from China Mobile indicating that the HTC One Max will not have a Snapdragon 800 processor as was previously rumored, but instead would have a slower chip running at 1.7GHz, which could mean either a Snapdragon S4 Pro, or perhaps a Snapdragon 600. It turns out that may be due to supply issues with the Snapdragon 800, or it could be cost concerns. No one is quite sure.

Some sources are saying that HTC couldn't get the component because of supply issues, but that theory doesn't really hold much weight. The Snapdragon 800 is the chip to have this holiday season. And, given that it is what you'll find in the U.S. version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3, the LG G2 (and also the rumored LG Nexus 5), the Asus PadFone Infinity, the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, and plenty of other smartphones and tablets, it's hard to imagine that Qualcomm can't produce enough of the chips. 

The other theory says that despite HTC aiming for the premium market with the HTC One, the company is looking to cut costs, and in order to do that has chosen an "older" chipset from Qualcomm. This theory also seems to indicate that the One Max may have a Snapdragon S4 Pro, and not a Snapdragon 600.

source: DigiTimes

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posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:06 30

2. Derekjeter (Posts: 202; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Well so much for that. Im happy with my LG G2. This thing is amazing. It was a good idea to sell my iPhone 5. Did you guys know i can make calls and be on the web a the same time. Having iPhones for the past 3 years i did not know that i could. LOVING ANDROID!!!

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 02:58 5

16. GoJin (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Feb 2013)


.nice!

how much did LG paid you for advert? :P
(Though I really like the G2, I'm considering the Note3 too)

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 04:33 1

17. joey_sfb (Posts: 2734; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I also discover the joy of multitasking in Android. Next, You should check out the joy of sharing data between apps. There is a share button in most apps in the top right corner.

Have fun!

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 07:47

25. rawbow (Posts: 409; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


lol, that's carrier exclusive. I can talk and surf on my iP5

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:06

29. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


Welcome to the wonderful world that is Android sir!!! +17263634732!!!

Now if more Apple iFans could only see the light

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:22 1

31. rawbow (Posts: 409; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


you mean bloat and lag? which you eventually hack and crack to perform to industry standards....no thanks

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 17:55 1

37. werthedroids (Posts: 60; Member since: 15 Sep 2013)


"...which you eventually hack and crack to perform to industry standards..." that's iOS. Poor little thing doesn't know a thing about Android. What's the matter? the iPhone seem a bit more shiny in the commercials?

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 07:03

40. ratsrats (Posts: 2; Member since: 15 Oct 2013)


You realize a large number of people own both. It's not a binary option like most losers make it out to be.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 12:47

35. theruleslawyer (Posts: 108; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


You switch carriers at the same time? I understood talking and surfing was a carrier thing. IIRC my wife has done it with an iphone on att for a long time.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:07

3. Mrmark (Posts: 125; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)


Interesting!

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:08 4

4. jeff_1 (Posts: 105; Member since: 30 Aug 2013)


S800 on paper..

HTC is not Samsung...That explains why.

''HTC uses technology..while samsung write technology for sales''

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 02:24 3

15. sarge77 (Posts: 202; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


Yes htc isnt samsung but you get better recption and call quality from this device how can you explain note 2 gs3 and gs4 having the same low quality antenna vs htc or motorola at the end of the day calling still has to come through and maybe they'll overclock this quad core to over 2 hopefully. why would you make the same device but only bigger not faster.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:21 2

7. Trex95 (Posts: 543; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


I saw Xperia Z1 review in you tube and the reviewer mentioned that the Z1 have heat issue when you playing games! It seems that 800 not that great.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 06:21 2

20. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 848; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


My G2 gets quite warm, as well. I haven't even played anything terribly graphics intensive, and it gets fairly warm. I'm thinking there are some thermal issues with the S800.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 06:57 2

23. Shatter (Posts: 1989; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Snapdragon rushed it to the market again.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:42 1

8. Commentator (Posts: 2330; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Why are we assuming that the US variant will not have an S800 just because the Chinese version doesn't?

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:47

10. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5599; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


True that we are assuming the US edition won't be equipped with the S800. If the assumptions are correct though, HTC will have a sales fail on their hands that they can ill-afford.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:45 1

9. a_merryman (Posts: 640; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Or, it could just be that these rumors about the s4 pro and s600 are wrong

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 01:49

11. Commentator (Posts: 2330; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Well, we've seen fairly official-looking branding confirming that it's 1.7 GHz, but we've also seen HTC make different variants for different markets. The Chinese version of the HTC one has a removable back for instance. It wouldn't be surprising that HTC goes with different processors for different markets to optimize costs.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 02:01 4

12. Lyngdoh (Posts: 223; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


Did'nt HTC said One will be the only flagship this year? Maybe its for that reason that the One Max is equipped either with SD S4 pro or SD 600.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 06:56

22. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)


If it has SD600, then it automatically becomes better equipped than the One-having newer OS and fingerprint scanner and all. What HTC might be trying may be to keep the One as its flagship (against the likes of GS4), and release the Max as a seperate category-like samsung, who have the S series as their flagship and note series for the phablet category.
Or they might be wanting to pit this in between the galaxy mega and galaxy note to increase sales

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:22

32. RomeoJDR (Posts: 237; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


Samsung stated their 'S' series is their flagship even though then Note 3 has better specs than the S4 just like the Note 2 had over the S3. The term "flagship" is simply a moniker used as a marketing tool to keep a model selling after more recently released phones come out with updated internals. We'll see if your right about HTC's thinking once pricing is revealed. If it doesn't have specs on par with other top devices being released then it better cost less.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 02:13 1

13. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2457; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Yes, they'll put S600 and price it more than Note III.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 02:14

14. rizevnarastek (Posts: 328; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


I believe it's to cut costs in China and make it a wee bit affordable. The global variant will have a Snapdragon 800.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 04:42 4

18. _Bone_ (Posts: 2106; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Cause HTC sucks at core decisions?

UltraPixels... unrepairable body... confusing ads... dubious HW choices... late updates...

Look at how mighty LG has learnt... the G2 has everything, efficient top-end SoC, screen and camera, large battery, feature-packed SW with IR blaster and gestures, good repairablity, thin bezels, cool cases, no real weakness. Or if we are talking phablets, you know who's unbeatable there...

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 07:59

26. Shatter (Posts: 1989; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Htcs last good phone series was in 2010-2011.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 05:45

19. Genersis (Posts: 179; Member since: 29 May 2013)


To be honest, if a company is going to be turned down by Qualcomm, it's going to be Blackberry or HTC, as they are both rumoured to be going down the pan so to speak.

Either that or their premium external designs are killing their profits, so they're cutting the hardware.

I feel sorry for them, I still think they make good phones; unfortunately just rarely great phones.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 06:36 1

21. taikucing (unregistered)


I prefer S600 to S800. Both have a little difference in performance IMO. I don't care about benchmark bullsh*t. But S600 has better power consumption.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 08:06 1

27. Jason2k13 (Posts: 633; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


is that what you say every time? the older generation is always better?

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 11:36 2

34. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Except that you are dead wrong. The S800 GPU is light years ahead.....

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 12:50

36. theruleslawyer (Posts: 108; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


Yes, please tell us about that amazingly better s600 battery life.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/3

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 07:31 2

24. Epicness1o1 (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)


If they putt a 600 nobody i going to buy it,because the sgn 3 is there and so htc gets no profits again...

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 09:27

28. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


I can't see it being the S4 Pro. That is literally last fall's processor. Even if it's essentially the same chip as the 600, it would look bad for HTC to go back a half generation. I think the more likely explanation is that they're using the same Snapdragon 600 clocked at 1.7 Ghz as in the One, so that they can easily use the same software on both devices.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 18:40

38. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I wouldn't put it past HTC. They put DDR2 ram in their S600 even when it was originally DDR3 standard like it is in the GS4. Asus also uses a S600 light for their Nexus 7.

Seems like a sketchy Taiwanese manufacturer thing where they get discounts but at a cost where something is switched out to achieve the lower price.

Although Motorola has something similar with a dual core version of a quadcore chip. I guess you can order lower end ones for cheaper. Seems like a hassle for Qualcomm though.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 10:08

30. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


Strange decision if it is indeed true.

I have my Droid Ultra with the X8 and I'm very pleased with the speed and response I get out of it. So it could work out just fine.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 11:17

33. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


I don't know how much of a drain the screen is on the One series, but it's a huge drain on my (admittedly outdated) Rezound. The X8's S4 Pro performs very well with a 720 screen, but might not do so well with a 1080.

posted on 19 Sep 2013, 18:45

39. Taters (Posts: 2661; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Another theory that makes sense is LG's excuse of why they are not using the S800 on the G pad 8.3. Heat management issues.

If you want that fancy Apple aluminum crap, you are stuck with a S600 until the S1000 comes out.

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