The death of RT? Microsoft says there won't be three versions of Windows in the future
0. phoneArena 23 Nov 2013, 14:34 posted on
Windows RT was something that no one really understood ever since it first hit the market. It always seemed like a stop-gap measure until Windows Phone was able to extend into tablets. Let's just say that RT is the Honeycomb of Windows: Microsoft needed a cheaper option for tablets, but didn't have time to do it properly. There have been constant rumors that RT would disappear or be merged with Windows Phone, and Microsoft's Julie Larson-Green is now fueling those rumors...
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1. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
So is Windows RT going to be part of Windows 8/future versions or is Windows phone going to become RT?
4. 14545 (Posts: 1537; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I would say RT will become WP. Not the other way around. Not that I am in the know or anything.l
5. Finalflash (Posts: 3104; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
In essence, no one knows, and likely will not know for a while. All we know is that there are 2 versions of windows and no one wants to design for 2 and therefore, they are haemorrhaging their own development. All they have said here is tablet and phone is GOING to be the same, but if that doesn't combine with their desktop, where is the real unique advantage of windows phones OS.
6. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
They could just be going back to there roots. In the past, Windows (the main version) used to support many different chip architectures from ARM, x86, among others. Though, this was wayyyyyyy back when (the first few versions of windows, before Intel crushed the competition).
15. joey_sfb (Posts: 5749; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Glad i didn't took on M$ offer of a $200 RT1. After doing my research i just can't find a fit for it on my day to day use.
My Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 plays a better role as a tablet as RT1 is huge and heavy plus limited codec; i do have a video collection in real player; rm format which is incompatible with RT1 and their 289 collection of apps.
30. DFranch (Posts: 206; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
Dude, RealPlayer, can't you convert that to something people actually use today?
2. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
nothing new, it has been talked for a long time in a merge of WinRt and WP . The stores will join in 2014 Spring
3. Gaurav008 (Posts: 328; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
"RT is the Honeycomb of Windows: Microsoft needed a cheaper option for tablets, but didn't have time to do it properly."
Well for starters, MS just didn't do that. Instead they decided to take on the market leaders with their pricing, which is ridiculous considering it couldn't run legacy windows apps except office, along with the the lack of a good library of apps.
Surface and RT had potential. But MS ruined it completely. Surface 2 and L2520 will be another futile attempt at keeping the OS alive.
7. bucky (Posts: 2579; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
I wouldn'tind if they just made RT and full windows. RT with a few touch friendly improvements would be pretty cool on a phone.
8. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Waiting for the initial bugs to be ironed out, but I'm definitely buying a 2520.
9. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1546; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I have heard that Windows phone 8,1 and windows RT would merge into a single OS that can be used on both. In other words with modifications of this new OS an APP can be used on a Windows smart phone and the APi's changed a bit to it will work on a tablet.
Hmm sounds great for those who want to make Apps for Windows 8.1 Mobile devices
31. DFranch (Posts: 206; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
I heard RT & WP would eventually have 100% API parity, not that they would be one and the same.
10. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1546; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Hmm Apple did this with the Iphone OS The Ipad is said to use a modified Iphone operating system
11. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Its because Intel tablets running x86 windows cost the same price so RT is pointless because Arm is worse.
13. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
care to mention a x86 equivalent to the Surface RT that cost the same ?
22. noler (Posts: 323; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
Dell's Windows 8.1, quad-core tablet now on sale for $299
24. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
8" vs 10" , HD vs FullHD. How are they equivalent ?
27. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
HP omni 10" full HD 10" display , windows 8.1 , $399 ..you were saying?...
12. FadyNabil (Posts: 39; Member since: 10 May 2013)
Windows RT is the same code as windows 8, but recompiled for ARM processors, and have a restriction of installing WIN32 applications, only accepts metro apps (it can however be cracked to run legacy applications recompiled for ARM, as it have the same Windows API).
Windows phone have the same kernel (NT kernel) with Windows 8, but does not contain all the WIN API, and can't run legacy windows applications by any means.
Windows RT is needed because intel processors and hardware are not yet as power efficient and cheap as ARM processors and hardware. When intel made hardware suitable for tablets and portable devices(they are close now), Windows RT will have no point.
14. wongdg (Posts: 12; Member since: 23 Nov 2013)
it's a sad fact commonly known that M$ purposely crippled RT. Should full blown windows able to run on ARM platform, it would have good sales to pick up where notebooks left off
32. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
this is because most windows legacy programs arent compatible with ARM processors. So yea, RT does have a more limited experience, but it would be more consumer friendly than just putting on a full blown windows os onto an arm processor device.
16. nlbates66 (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
we know they're merging Windows phone and Windows itself together(which just happens to include RT), and have known for almost a year now, @wongdg Windows RT is not purposely crippled, original Windows desktop applications simply do not run on ARM processors without being recompiled and the developers have shown throughout 10 years that they cannot be trusted to re-write desktop applications in a manner that respects power efficiency, thus no Proper Desktop in Windows RT. 15 years in the future, Desktop itself may become "optional" or "legacy" on Windows itself, replaced by the new environment(which Microsoft Still hasn't come up with a blasted replacement name for so i'll call it Metro again).
17. volcano (Posts: 348; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
they are going to merge windows phone and windows RT into one OS for tablet and smartphone many reports said it
20. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
They will most likely converge everything into one. And we will be able to travel seamlessly between each of them.
23. JkB_SlH (Posts: 8; Member since: 13 Nov 2013)
This change will make sense following other platforms.
Tablets and Phones should have the same OS based on ARM processors, while full windows should be only a full windows without the RT nonsense.
25. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
No, because today you have full windows tablets , convertibles and AIO with touchscreen, etc.....
26. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
This doesn't exactly strengthen consumer confidence in the rt products on the market now =/
This exec shouldn't have made this comment, IMO, and especially not a week before the busiest tech shopping weekend of the year.
28. BREvenson (Posts: 240; Member since: 17 May 2012)
Well, it's not all bad. The Windows Store does have a solid selection of apps/games at this time, and the Surface 2 has moderate specs, so RT still has some potential...especially if you can get it on the Surface for $449 and below (under $400 if you get the 1st generation Surface). On the other hand, plenty of Windows tablets from Samsung, Lenovo, Acer, Dell, etc. have full Windows 8/8.1 support from the get-go, and they are competitively priced. More people would be inclined to grab those, at it gives them the functionality of Windows 8 in a tablet.
RT was a nice experiment for Microsoft, but at this point, I see it as a losing effort.
29. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
The "Burned platform" ... even before Elop becomes CEO
33. scriptwriter (Posts: 396; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
You cant really call it 'The death of Windows RT' considering it was never really alive in the first place