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The battle of potential vs need: Moto X and the Samsung Galaxy S4

0. phoneArena 01 Aug 2013, 18:03 posted on

Based on the various leaks and inside info that we had gotten over the past couple of months, we basically knew what to expect with the Motorola Moto X. We knew about the customization options, and the color choices. We essentially knew what to expect from the spec sheet. And, we even basically knew what the hardware itself would look like...

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posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:07 23

1. mottykels (Posts: 385; Member since: 15 May 2013)


No expandable memory No thanks :/

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:11 9

2. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


You do know in a few years you're not going to have any choice.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 01:55 8

64. tech2 (Posts: 3476; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Wow....can you see the future ?

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 09:49 1

73. moroninc (Posts: 193; Member since: 14 Jul 2012)


LOL like the guy who said ipod would die in 5 years after its launch.. british bloke

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 09:55

74. tech2 (Posts: 3476; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


I am british :D

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 13:52

76. Kal-el (Posts: 93; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)


this phone is not one that people of gotham needs....but the one they deserve

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 18:44

77. tech2 (Posts: 3476; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


I swear to God this is exactly the first line I thought when I read that last line of the article !

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:30 10

5. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Get used to it. Phones with microSD card slots are a dying breed.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:32

6. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


I wouldn't be surprised if the S5 went the route of unibody.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 19:45 9

22. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


people have been saying this for along time, am not saying its not going to die on phones ever but dont think it will anytime soon, i can guarantee it will be available in phones in the next 2-3 years atleast and personally as long as a phone with a sd card exist i will always buy one.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 20:30 7

35. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


It's a dying breed because manufacturers are realizing the revenue they can make on making consumers come to a service center just for a stupid battery issue. So, they take that option away from us. One of the main reasons I switched to Samsung, is due to it offering the all important battery accessibility. Working around batteries all day, it really is amazing that more people don't realize how fickle and fragile batteries are. It is the weakest link of any phone regardless of brand, price or design. Recommendation for battery test and visual inspection on a phone should be 7-8 months. This assures that the battery hasn't started to swell or have internal anode and cathode wear.

Panasonic is banking on a 40% revenue from service of phone batteries alone. They don't want consumers changing their own batteries. A typical phone battery has an average of 15-18 month life span before consumers notice degradation. Out of manufacturer warranty, a consumer not being able to purchase their own batteries anymore, is forced to pay higher than normal replacement costs. Service centers make a killing and so do the manufacturers controlling the battery marketshare.

Batteries are a huge business and the industry is going to find yet another reason to pick our pockets. If you don't care about higher prices, then supporting the companies that don't offer removable batteries, is playing into the game plan.

John B.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 00:01 2

58. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I made a post very similar to this when the HTC One came out. Couldn't agree more.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 21:22 8

42. jdoee100 (Posts: 334; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


No, in android world, phones without SD card slots are dying breed. Phones with SD card slots(samsung phones, and other phones) rule in android space.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 01:05 2

62. joey_sfb (Posts: 6005; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


In the real world consumer is king. And they wonder why Samsung captured more than 50% Android market.

Every Samsung phone and tablet has microSD slot plus they also sell premium microSD card with the fastest read and write speed.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 10:01 1

75. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Samsung captured more than 50% of the Android market because they flooded it with dozens of products and marketed some of them like crazy. The fact that those products have microSD card support is mostly irrelevant. If what you're saying is true, then Apple would have no market share because none of their products have microSD card support, but every new iPhone that comes out massively outsells the leading Galaxy S handset.

The majority of people I know that have phones with microSD card support (mostly Samsung/Motorola devices) don't even know they're there. You don't know how many times I've heard people complain about losing their pictures when upgrading, when their previous phone and new phone both had a microSD card slot, and then I had to explain it to them.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 00:43 2

61. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 146; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)


No..expandable memory is never gonna die..as we r moving towards future we r needing more and more storage..there was a tym when a 40 gb hdd on my pc was too much..and now evn 2 TB is not enough..and external memory ll always be cheaper than the built in ssd's...and the new external cards r evn faster than the internal memory..we ll always need expandable storage cuz we ll always b running out of space(with 4k resolution videos,large pic sizes and the amount of data we hv on phones these days,probability is very high)..if mobile devices aim to evn come close to what desktops r today they ll definitely need external expandable storage..micro sd cards with evn larger memory ll be coming out soon(120GB)..

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:24

83. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


Well not a all. If iPhone was a completely new phone is 2013 it wouldn't sell. iPhone is selling well, at least until iPhone 5 because people have a good image of it, as it was revolutionary in 2007. It's more like nostalgia if people buy it now, not for it's specs like absence of MicroSD. As you can see now that Samsung phones and Android are as good and better than iOS, iPhone sales are dying and I'm sure if the iPhone 5S or 6 will be out it will not sell as good as the previous if they keep the same old closed specs. Even on iOS 7, you see they try to update things because they know that people now forget 2007 and Android has catch up iOS, without the limitations (same for iPhone and Galaxy S4, One, Z, etc.)

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 01:52 2

63. Just.Me (Posts: 23; Member since: 24 Apr 2013)


It may be true, But, By the time microSD cards slots die out in a phone, We should see phones with well over 120GB internal storage. When that happens, We won't need the external microSD Card on a phone anymore

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 06:21 1

70. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 146; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)


Oh u ll still need it..like i said earlier we r always running out of storage space...there ll never be anything like too much space..

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 19:38 13

20. mi55u (unregistered)


Sadly agree, what I see about moto x is that the device is not potential and not our need as well... But Samsung deliver that, always care for their customer and provide best service as well..

I feel sorry to moto, but kudos to Samsung

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:22 8

3. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Between the two...i'd take the X.
"Moto Make" it to a look that'll hardly be opted for.
As far as i can say, i think the software and OS flow within this device will be smooth since Google has an important hand over the make.
Even if the hardware isn't on top, or somewhere close, i'd take it anytime if it provides me with a lag or freeze-free experience.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:34 8

8. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


Im not sure what older model phone you have now but my Note 2 never freezes or lags much less an S4. Most of that was eliminated with project butter.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:44 4

12. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


"Most of it"...it happens, not very often but what if all those can be eliminated? Won't that be great.
By the way, i don't have Note II but i tried playing Temple Run 2 and i experienced freezes and frame drops.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 18:47 7

13. Robes1 (Posts: 17; Member since: 08 Dec 2009)


I actually returned an S4 because of the lag. It's real and it's terrible! Sometimes I would click on a field to type and took 6-7 seconds for the keyboard to pop up on the screen. The HTC One didn't have that problems though.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 19:51

23. kozza3 (Posts: 702; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


i wonder how the GE S4 compares...

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 20:19 1

31. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


For that, i'd refer you back to the review of both versions. Play edition scored higher...maybe it was smoother than the UX.

posted on 02 Aug 2013, 00:04

59. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Completely untrue. The GE versions of both the S4 & the One received the same score as the original versions. 9.3 & 9.1, respectively.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 19:52 6

24. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


ive had the s4 from day one, and its true there use to be lag/stutters mainly in the animations but honestly its not been bad like some people go on like as if it was totally unusable..was it annoying, yes because the hardware of the phone should have meant it wasnt laggy but i personally never had so much lag that i couldnt use it..thankfully the lag is pretty much a non issue since the latest app2sd firmware and for whatever reason samsung released the s4 with poorly written firmware which is why it was docked points in many reviews. agree with you the htc one is super slick from day one, my brother has it and it is a great phone but for me the s4 is the better device mainly due to the sd card and imo the camera is also better.

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 19:57 2

28. papss (unregistered)


Um the s4 has known lag issues. Project Butter didn't do a thing against the bloatware SS added

posted on 01 Aug 2013, 22:35 2

54. sniper1087 (Posts: 515; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


the main thing that people dont realize and only look at CPU is the 2 additional cores that have context computing and and language processing might improve performance, at least Im still positive this is the way phones should be cater to the users, by them picking how to build them just like PCs.

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