The Ubuntu Edge and the tech media
0. phoneArena 25 Jul 2013, 16:00 posted on
While waiting in line at the Google event yesterday, media folks talk about all sorts of things. One thing...
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2. Shatter (Posts: 1651; Member since: 29 May 2013)
This device is the major change the phone market needs. This phone is a level above smartphones, anyone that wants lots of horsepower and functionality in their phone will be getting one of these.
3. Dr.Phil (Posts: 789; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Well I commend you Max for being one of the few tech writers out there that just truly admires technology in any form. I wish there was more people out there like you. It is a great project that I hope reaches it's funding goal. We need to have more competition in the mobile space, both in terms of hardware and software. I believe Canonical can bring that to the table. Maybe once the first Ubuntu Edge is released and people get to try it then they might be on board to help fund the eventual successor.
I also wish the same for the Jolla, Firefox, and Tizen operating systems. I hope I get the chance to try them all out someday. I've seen videos of them online and I feel they all have true potential to be something great.
5. MistB (Posts: 508; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Really hope this goes through, cutting edge innovative hardware with a lot of promise. This could be the breathing space the mobile space needs since Android came onto the scene and with the first IPhone, 2014 will a blockbuster year to say the least and this is actually the hardware that will be the most exciting imo.
8. jellmoo (Posts: 200; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
Honestly, it looks like a great product in theory. They have a solid design in mind, look to want to make it as premium as possible, and they are incredibly ambitious with what they are trying to do. I'm a fan of Ubuntu and I sincerely wish them success. That being said...
1) They are not a hardware company. I'm sure that they have hired some great minds for the project, but they are a software company looking to make an incredibly advanced piece of software. The inherent difficulties will be astounding, and their ability to put this out in a timely manner would greatly surprise me.
2) Do they have the ability to fully support the device at the level they will need to. Will Canonical be able to support their ongoing Ubuntu Enterprise, coupled with Ubuntu Touch and now Android users?
3) $32 million is a *lot* of money. They got out of the gate strongly, but can they keep that up for a prolonged period of time to get to that magic number? It's an unheard of amount in crowd funding thus far, and Canonical is not exactly a household name.
I like the idea, I like the approach and I like the brand. But it still looks like an incredible longshot, and most likely a logistical nightmare if it does make it out of the design stage.
9. Dr.Phil (Posts: 789; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
With regards to your second point, I would think (and this is just my opinion, I'm not stating any facts or known information) that Canonical would be able to support the ecosystem as a whole because of this whole idea of convergence. So, whenever they would be working on an update for the desktop OS then they would concurrently be updating the mobile OS as well because they are dependent on each other.
10. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
One question do they have a prototype device that actually running or anything? I'm all for ideas and theories but without any sort of device that is supposed to be bringing top tier parts and 4GB of RAM and other such niceties, I want to see some tangible evidence. I saw the photos of what looks like a slab like device and it has a weird trapezoidal thing going on, but little else.
No specifications of any kind, in all of the stories that I searched for on this site. Crowd funding is a bit like begging to me, I understand that it's community supported but what if it doesn't pan out then what? Humans have a long history of getting bent out of shape when it comes to money and lost investments.
I like the sound of all in one device, but unless Ubuntu hits the market like a meteorite this is going to dig a massive hole in someone's bottom line. People are dug into their respective OS trenches, developers are devoted to their bottomlines because it's where the consumers are and consumers buy what they see everyone has and what's being pushed in stores. Canonical and Ubuntu are both completely unknown to the average joe, sure the technologically inclined would know about it but technologically inclined aren't the biggest market for something of this magnitude. I'd say it would be better to start out small and be like a niche product and then seep their way into the mainstream when the timing is right. If they were ready to deliver last year when W8 stumbled out of the gate, they might have had a great time in the limelight and even won lots of curiosity. I wish them well, idea sounds great but they've got a hell of a battle ahead of them. Windows is a juggernaut and Android is already doing the multiple device one OS thing, so Canonical will have to wow and knock it out of the park to get any leeway. I find the all in one phone/PC incredibly interesting but there is just too many roadblocks ahead of them. I can guarantee we'll see some lawsuits, it's the nature of the beast, there's always someone willing to take money to do unscrupulous things. Good luck and God speed to Canonical.
11. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 1054; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Ubuntu is a horrible OS..js , phone specs are killer tho
12. taikucing (Posts: 568; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Intel core i3 please.... And the capability to install windows 7 / 8 into it.
13. megadirk (Posts: 33; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)
People are bringing up some very good points in relation to the obstacles that Canonical is going to have to overcome being a first time hardware developer. That being said...
I think one of the biggest obstacles here is the user base that is going to be interested in funding this project. If you got in on the ground floor and we're able to snag one of the phones at $600, that's still a lot of money for something you MIGHT have in your hand a year from now. I for one normally fund my next phone by selling my old phone, subsidized pricing and whatever deal a retailer has going at the time. So it basically ends up being free. Now I would still have no problem paying more money for a new phone that is as advanced as this one, but to have it a year from now?
Gadget lovers tend to get into buying more that one type of gadget. I'm already putting aside funds for one of the new consoles coming out this fall and just got done upgrading core components for my PC. I was ok with investing money into those things because I have seen them, read reviews on them, etc. Plopping 600 big ones on something that sounds amazing with a promise that it will happen from a company doing it for the first time is a big risk for me and others like me.
Final point, if I had $600+ laying around I would have funded this in a heartbeat. I think it's a great and wonderful thing that they are doing and everything they have planned looks amazing. I will most likely be jealous when the first units start rolling out and I am reading reviews about it. That's just it though, I'm going to have to read a lot about it before I hand over $$ for the full price of a phone, especially when other options like the Nexus are available for half the price that aren't tied to a carrier.