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The Street says Android users know nothing about their phones

0. phoneArena 24 Jun 2012, 00:31 posted on

Wall Street blog The Street says that Android users are clueless when it comes to their phone, citing a comScore study from April that said that 70% of Android users don't know how to access Wi-Fi with their Android smartphone...

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posted on 24 Jun 2012, 17:14

128. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Keep making excuses we know the reality is most android users are very uneducated

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 17:30

130. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Dude, you're still here?! i thought u moved on with something better to do. u start arguements from posts hours ago, whats ur goal, to try and change opinions of ppl online, what is that ur official job,,, one side wins and the other loses all the time, no one cares about these things except the people in the comments because that wont affect ur life in anyway right, except for u who has a MASSIVE heart attack when u see any anti-Apple hate. Are you paid to this, is this the only happiness u can find (other than ur cat?)

And accoridng to you u claim that iPhone users are more likely to be successful and stuff, but look at you, a BAD example. . . . by ur constant trolling and addiction to this site, u imply the idea that u An iPhone user, has nothing better to do than troll on websites and that u also dont have a life outside of the internet... And dont bother to comment on this cause unlike you, i am not addicted to a website like it's my job. ur sad dude . . .

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:04 2

143. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


And yet, on every tech subject on this forum, you are always wrong, and the android users are always right. I guess you're the exception that proves the rule.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:22

149. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


that statement couldnt be any more true. dude is blind to his own ignorance.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:53

169. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well I'm just going off the FACTS.

You guys use friends and family as "proof".

Who's wrong?

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 19:02 1

175. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You're not going off facts, you're going off one person's analysis of flawed data. Facts are by definition true. Since we already know that browser stats are flawed, any analysis based on them US flawed.

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 02:06

216. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I figured you'd agree with the analysis without looking at the basic facts. Eric Jackson (or Jackass) makes the claim about Android users "not knowing" how to turn on Wifi without a shred of proof. All he has is the numbers that 70 percent of American Android users DON'T use wifi. According to one number read.

That number read was NOT the result of going out to Android users and asking them if they could turn on their wifi. He jumped to a conclusion, as did you.

Because you're a dumbass who can't. FU.CKING. READ.

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 15:13 1

228. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


I'm confused. If ios users are soooooo tech savy, why are there stores all around the country full of fat sweaty neckbeards, or "geniuses", who's job is specifically to hold their hands and show them how to turn on their phones, dl an app, answer a call, etc?
What is the android equivalant? Oh, there isn't one sincce MOST users are smart enough to figure it out on their own.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 14:13 1

97. glenwf (Posts: 11; Member since: 14 Jun 2012)


i Am what would qualify as a geek, yet i haven't turned my Wi-Fi on in well over a month and i use the browser maybe once day or less, i rely on Apps and news readers for most things. This means that even though i use my phone heavily i fall into the category of dumb users that don't know their phone or have any loyalty? seems like skewed assumptions and weird math to me...

of course surveys are right 90% of the time except the 48% of the time when they're wrong, plus or minus a 5% error rate and everything posted on the internet is 100% true...

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 14:20 2

101. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


iOS users "man, i need to find some wifi to use this app"
android users "whats wifi? everything I have works over 3g/4g without a hitch. People still use wifi??"

simple explanation for the lack of wifi knowledge on android users parts... if there is such a gap in knowledge.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 19:05

176. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Considering unlimited data is gone wifi is very necessary to avoid throttling and overage fees.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 19:43

183. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


That's very true. That's what annoys me about Verizon - when I had their dirt slow 3G, they told me I needed unlimited data.

Now that I have LTE, and can actually use my phone for the stuff they advertise it for (streaming video, streaming music, etc...), they want to limit me to a couple of days worth of data per month if I actually do those things. (I've used over 12gb in a month on my line alone)

Well, not me. I'm locking in for two more years of unlimited. Then I'll weigh my options.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 14:38

108. carlos5593 (Posts: 28; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


How about they do a real study and add all the browsers that work on Android. 7 out of 10 android users don't use the default android browser. Want to know why? Because there are choices on the android ecosystem, because people use (opera, dolphins, chrone,) and all kinds of different types of browsers and most of android OEMs build their own browser, for example Samsung, htc, Motorola, etc. So start thinking (Wall Street).

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 17:15

129. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


It is a real study. 61% of all mobile traffic comes from iOS.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:12 1

145. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Except, as you already know, that traffic statistic does not take into account Android users who set their browsers to desktop, since we can get the full internet on our phones. Those people don't read as being on Android, so the stars are faulty.

You can choose to keep ignoring that fact, but the rest of the folks here know about it, and about how wrong you were about UAStrings.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:53

170. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Keep telling yourself that man. Whatever makes you feel better.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 19:08

177. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It's a fact. It's the reason opera removed User agent choices from their browser, because it was harming their usage stats. You have Google, look it up. You won't, because you know you're wrong. I even provided you several links, which I'm sure you didn't check out because you feel better shrouded in your ignorance.

You are the perfect proof this blog is wrong. You are as tech unsavvy as they come.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 19:20 1

180. MISTER-H (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 28 May 2012)


What kind of low cheap answer was that... He just shutted u up. Why change subject.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 19:28 1

182. MISTER-H (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 28 May 2012)


Tacos Fandroids Androids bash u left right down up centre.... And u still come for more. Don't u have no self respect. Dignity. U loose. All the time. And change subject. And then there's no sign of u.... U jealous looser.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 17:49

139. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I'm dying laughing at all the fandroids. You guys troll all day and it always blows up in your face when faced with REAL FACTS.

Guys iPhone 5 is around the corner to crush you.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:14 2

146. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


How is that email about user agents coming along? *snicker*

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:59

173. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I emailed them and they never responded. What's funny is you think that all the people doing these studies wouldn't consider that there's other browsers available. Which btw iOS also has plenty of 3rd party browsers.

The facts are that 61% of ALL mobile traffic comes from iOS. you can deny and rationalize anyway you want, but it's a fact.

That's not surprising considering the average android user doesn't even know what wifi is.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 19:52

185. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The fact is that every site I visit using Dolphin HD set to desktop agent records my visit as Safari on Mac OSX. The same is true of all Dolphin users set to Desktop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_agent#User_agent_spoofing

http://sillydog.org/forum/important-about-opera-useragent-spoofing-t3373.php

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/05/07/31/1820211/opera-to-stop-spoofing-user-agent-as-ie

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 20:14

188. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


So you think the analytical companies doing these studies don't know about this? I doubt it.

Let's say you're right. Considering 70% of android users don't know how to turn on wifi what percentage of them use a browser set as desktop?

Also I have browsers on my iPad that I can set to be identified as desktop as well.

So if we assume everything you say is right the vast majority of mobile web browsing would still happen on iOS devices.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 20:31 1

190. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Analytical companies collect server stats from websites, they don't go out and measure anything.

And, since we've already debunked the premise of the blog, anything derived from it is also useless.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 21:56

197. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


So now you want to deny everything in the study? I bet if it said android users are tech savvy you'd have no issues with any of their methods.

Sounds like someone is in denial. How do you rationalize that iOS has all the same 3rd party browsers?

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 22:13 1

201. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2012/4/iPhones_Have_Significantly_Higher_Rates_of_Wi-Fi_Utilization

There is the actual study. You show me where in it it says that Android users don't know how to use WiFi.

I can save you the time, it doesn't. That was all some blogger looking at the numbers, and saying, "70% of Android users don't use WiFi - that means they don't know how."

As I said before, I can look at it and say, "70% of iPhone users use WiFi - that means their iPhones can't hold a signal."

My analysis is just as valid as his, because it is based on the same data as his.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 22:15

202. tedkord (Posts: 12245; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Do iOS browsers allow the user to choose a different UAString? (I'm asking, I don't know) If not, then it doesn't matter if they have the same browsers.

posted on 25 Jun 2012, 15:16 1

229. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


They probably saw it was from you, thought "taco50, taco50, where have I heard that name......OH! OH SH*T! It's THAT guy! The biggest retard on the net! I've HEARD of this dude!" and then had a good hearty laugh and immediately forgot you exist.

posted on 24 Jun 2012, 18:15 3

147. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


So where we're you when iOS 6 and flyover were getting hammered? You know, the article where Apple maps wanted people to jump bridges, u-turns on one way streets and whatnot. You always celebrate the bad Android news/good Apple news, but you disappear when it's the other way around. Why don't you defend your preferred OS when Weiss being torn to shreds? Are you a fare weather fanboy?

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