The Japanese Samsung Galaxy S III will have 2GB of RAM
0. phoneArena 16 May 2012, 21:50 posted on
When we first saw the headlines popping up that the Japanese variant of the Samsung Galaxy S III would have 2GB of RAM, we didn't believe it. We scoured the DoCoMo website and looked through all of the documentation...
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8. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3046; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Uh....The fact that Japan is the ONLY one getting 2GB of RAM. That was one thing many people were looking forward to with the SGS3.
10. bvalde09 (Posts: 174; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I guess we could wait to buy the phone from Japan and the request an unlock code from the carrier. I mean 2GB Ram is a BIG BIG PLUS.
11. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3046; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Double the RAN means less force closes, less lag, less freeze ups, less rebooting, and so on and on. Updating the processor is all great and all but technology is moving fast and RAM is just as important to improve on.
30. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Have you noticed any freeze ups with S III? Because I haven't. So what for? Don't forget it's only a phone. Do you open 30+ apps at once?
32. Forsaken77 (Posts: 552; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
You don't need 30+ apps open to use up 1GB of RAM genius. Alot of bigger apps, namely games, that are over 100mb in size use up alot more RAM to cache itself. I have a GS2 and I have to constantly use Samsungs built in RAM-clearing tool/app closer. Once you use an app, even if you close it out, it still caches itself to the RAM so it can restart quickly. 2GB of RAM should've been standard long ago with the average number of apps on phones in the mid-30's.
37. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I've never had any of this problems with my phones. Even on my old galaxy 1.
I have a feeling that smartphones are becoming smarter than users. That's funny. A typical guy tends to open 20+ apps and at the end of the day start moaning that the battery is already dead or not enough ram or some laggs occur.
Use your phone smart in order to avoid "memory problem".
44. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The more things you can load into RAM the better, smoother, faster the over all operation of the device is. Its the same with computers. Yea, you can run Vista on 2gig of ram OK, but if you really want to make it work well, you want 4gig or more.
If you had the option for more ram for the same price, why wouldnt you just take it? Why would you go out of your way to justify why you DONT need it.
And for anyone that likes detailed games on their phones, that advanced ram is going to come in super handy. Bigger page file sizes, increases in FPS, the whole 9.
56. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
smoothness is great.
But for my taste this specification race is ridiculous. It reminds me aforementioned windows which needs more and more resources to keep stability.
As far as I know 1 gigs is enough for now.
Maybe we should focus on underdeveloped apps which need so tremendous amount of power?
61. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
thats because you are limiting your imagination.
the hardware must first be availible, and then it must permeate a large section of the user base before any real development that challenges it happens. If we stopped improving, games and such would stay as they are now.
you may be "satisfied" with right now, but you never know how someone is going to think up a use for all that extra power.
I remember when 3D first came out, and all these people were like "2D hand drawn is better than 3D will ever be". Can you imagine every game you've ever played in 2D only? Had those haters had their way, we'd still be playing Super nintendo.
62. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 308; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Man they can fool themselves if they want to but as long as you're not paying anything for an EXTRA gb of ram... THEN WHY COMPLAIN??? You are certainly Gaining and not losing ANYTHING!! Dont wanna make anyone mad but only a FOOL would not want a FREE Gb of ram right? and notice i said FREE...
13. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Docomo doesn't sell phones or services online, every transaction must be done at B&M shops. Your only chance to buy it, is to wait for online retailers to import it.
18. bvalde09 (Posts: 174; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Never heard of them before, but thanks for the tip. I could wait since Im also waiting for the next iphone to come out to see who will get my money. Like @roryrevolutions says . Having more ram helps any computer or smartphone to run better and smoother. The only thing that might be a worry will be the battery life with 2GB Ram
21. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
B&M shop means physical stores (e.g: Walmart, Target..etc). Amazon Japan *might* carries them too, but I doubt they will ship it oversea.
26. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Wouldn't this be a crack-up - Japanese GSIIIs being grey-marketed to the U.S.????
Previously it was U.S. smartphones (Apple in particular) being grey-marketed to non-U.S. markets. Now it is poentially the reverse. Sauce for the Goose is now sauce for the Gander. LOL
60. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
except for the iphone madness, most of the "most coveted" phones are outside of america. This is just par for the course. Some of the phones Japan gets are way better than ours.
47. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
So there is one model of Galaxy S III or there is three models of Galaxy S III ??? WTF???
One with Quad-Core CPU
One with Dual-Core CPU
And one with 2GB of RAM memory
That's mean Galaxy S III not equal to Galaxy S III
The models is the same Galaxy S III, but we have double standards, that just not right, it is some kind of discrimination...
57. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
not a discrimination. that's a policy and market needs.
japan is the most high tech country in the world. It is obvious that samsung want to compete on this market. Given what DoCoMo and the others can offer...Samsung must try harder.
59. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"...that's a policy and market needs."
Yes, I know and agree with you, but for us simple users it is some kind of discrimination and double standards. :(
2. GellerDoesDallas (Posts: 50; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
Even though 2 gigabytes of ram is not a necessity I still want it Japan you lucky bastards.
20. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
2GB RAM is absolutely necessary. Increasing RAM is the fastest way to speed up the whole OS. Even though program may not use all of it, it reduces fragmentation in memory which is the primary reason your phone slows down after using it for certain period.
23. pahel (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
lol @PackMan. You obviously don't have idea what you're talking about. Fragmentation problem in RAM doesn't exist as every memory cell in RAM is accessed equally fast. Fragmentation exist mainly in memory which has moving parts and requires movement of the reading head which produces extra lag in access time.
25. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
RAM and SD gets fragmented too and yes it affects the system. In case of modern OS and with newer MMU's it may not be much of a problem, however for software that are not coded well,memory leaks become serious problem. Having more memory helps to certain degree.
In short: FRAGMENTATION OCCURS IN RAM AND SSD TOO BUT HAS LESS OF AN AFFECT COMPARED TO THAT ON A HARD DRIVE WITH MOVING PARTS.
27. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Also, a hard drive provides slower access to data that is fragmented (slower read speed of hard drive vs. solid state drive).
38. pahel (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Why do you say RAM and SD as it would be the same thing? It's not.
Why do you confuse memory leaks with fragmentation? It's not the same. The only common problem with mem leaks and fragmentation which i can think of is situation where there is a lot of fragmentation in RAM (which of course occures but have different effects than you said - i may have put that wrong in my first post) and you want to allocate huge amount of memory and you get out of mem errors.
RAM fragmentation impact on read speeds is very slim and probably invisible for phone user.
49. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
Lets me clear somethings.
WHERE DID I STATE THAT RAM AND SSD ARE THE SAME?
----Fragmentation in RAM and in HARD DRIVE work slightly differently, so why did you bring it up.
The only reason I brought up SSD was to counter your argument that fragmentation affects the
performance of drive with moving parts only because of the increased seek time.
Fragmentation in SSD affects the performance(read/write).
WHERE DID I STATE THAT MEMORY LEAK AND FRAGMENTATION IS THE SAME THING?
-----Memory Leak assists external fragmentation in RAM.
WHEN I SAID FRAGMENTATION AFFECTS THE SYSTEM WHEN PHONE HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR A LONG TIME,
I DID NOT IMPLY IT AS IT WOULD WORK ON HARD DRIVE. I MEANT TO SAY WHEN LOT OF APPLICATION ARE RUNNING.
--- if you restart the phone RAM fragmentation would disappear,unlike that of permanent drive, but that's not the point.
WHERE DID I SAY RAM FRAGMENTATION SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTS THE READ SPEED OF RAM?
--- RAM fragmentation becomes significant when the system is running low on memory as memory not being used is being wasted.
FRAGMENTATION IS NOT AN ERROR AND IS VERY COMMON.
-- The only way to counteract the effects of RAM fragmentation is to add more memory or use complexed algorithm to
better manage the memory which would require cpu time. Memory management is still a field of research.
34. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
I know. I want to brag about my freaking amazing phone to all my friends. Not that they'll care. xD
4. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
2 Gigs of RAM would be awesome to have in your phone, especially when we like to root and use launcher apps, some apps take up considerable RAM. The thing I want from these OEM's is a way to kill any non essential app and to ensure that I can stop any app from reloading itself, why on earth do apps have such abilities? I want to be able to have control over what blasted apps should be running on my phone. Uninstalling is a stupid way to deter this, unless you Root your phone.
7. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
Samsung should put this on the International version of their Exynos 5/4412 Beast GPU HD Tablet.
12. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
There is decently a need to have more ram in these mini computers. Too whoever wrote this artical underplaying that is kinda stupid. I can see on waiting on quad core cpu over waiting on getting more ram. Let alone dedicating certain ram to do certain things. It's like on my galaxy nexus if I put widgets on all of my screens and fill them up I have a hard time even using my phone. True there is other bottlenecks besides ram but that has always been one of those fractures in the speed of a computer that gets overlooked by the CPU.
35. GuiltyBystander (Posts: 199; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
I agree with you.
2GB's of RAM is also necessary if we want the phone to get Jelly Beans and whatever comes next.
You can never have enough RAM.
14. darkgoon3r96 (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 May 2012)
I don't know why you guys need 2 Gigs of RAM. I am using a rooted Galaxy S II at this point with Custom ROMs, Apex Launcher, 3 games, 2 browsers, and 5 other apps(Twitter, Gmail, 5 widgets on homescreen, Youtube, Contacts, Phone) open with still 363 MB left and I bet I can open 10 more apps and switch between them without any lag or performance hit. Why you guys need 2 Gigs of RAM is honestly beyond me.
19. bvalde09 (Posts: 174; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Isnt matter if needing 2 GB Ram is the choice of having in it. Lets face it I would rather be 1.2 GM left than 363 Ram. I know for fact that I will never fall short
22. darkgoon3r96 (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 May 2012)
I opened all those stuff just to prove that I can, in reality, I would never open all those stuff, and for those of you thumbing my comment down, tell me why?? I am asking you guys a question, I am sure most of you won't ever open all these stuff then why would you want 2 GB? Don't give me the bigger is better and "just to make sure", because I have never maxed out my 1 GB RAM.
58. _PHug_ (Posts: 413; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
Your problem is you don't want to accept the answer.
bvalde09 gave you the reason we want 2 GBs of RAM.
It's our right to choose. Who gives a F*** if we need it or not.
Allow me break it down for you.
You don't NEED a house you can live in a shelter or under a bridge.
You don't NEED a car you can walk or catch a bus.
You don't NEED a smartphone you can use an old flip phone or find a pay phone.
16. Suts_97 (Posts: 124; Member since: 05 May 2012)
I wonder why this is not a standard feature of the S3
17. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
It's more about whether you eat quad core exynos or dual core snapdragon s4 with 2 gigs of ram . So I guess both of them are about the same speed .
I think USA models will get the same combo as Japan
24. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
2 GB on a phone it's like 8 gigs on a pc. Useless. Even worse, in a phone may waste more battery.
I'll start making phones with 6 GB Ram, 50 MP camera, eight core processors, without gsm radio and will call it "Magic" - will sell like crazy.
31. darkgoon3r96 (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 May 2012)
Yes! Exactly! At least someone gets the point!!!
36. GuiltyBystander (Posts: 199; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
Just because you can't make use of 8GB's of RAM on a PC doesn't mean that it's useless.
41. darkgoon3r96 (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 May 2012)
You're the idiot in this case. He was comparing it to what is possible on the phone.
42. GuiltyBystander (Posts: 199; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
It's stupid to even compare a smartphone to a PC, you can do much much much much more on a PC.
I can easily use 8GB's of RAM on a PC.. Heck, I can even use 32GB's of RAM.
People like you want to hold technology back.
53. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Actualy you are totally wrong, because if it is new generation of RAM, then it is two times faster and two times use less power.
28. wendygarett (unregistered)
I dont get it? why crapdragon has ability to get 2GB of RAM but not the exynos? Not even in quad-core!! Am I get something wrong here??
51. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
The amount of RAM has no bearing on the processor. It's a dual-core Exynos in this model and in the US models because the quad-core is based on older architecture that doesn't work with LTE.
Besides which, the functional difference between the quad-core Exynos and dual-core will be pretty much zero. Sure, the quad will have better benchmarks, but you probably wouldn't notice the difference in actual usage.
29. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 413; Member since: 04 May 2012)
When LG creates a phone with to 2GB ram you say it's overkill.
But then samsung makes one too and you say it's necessary.
Obviously fanboys... -_-
33. kotoulas100 (Posts: 2; Member since: 24 Feb 2009)
Did you also notice that the japanese samsung site refers to a 1.5GHz DUAL core CPU ????? So , before trying to find a way to order from Japan the Galaxy SIII , please consider that it may be a mistake ... or , the worst case senario , a 2GB RAM Galaxy SIII with a DUAL core 1.5 GHZ processor !!!
39. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I heard the same. Dual core instead of quad core. But it would be great to see that Samsung S III is even faster (not only in benchmarks) than quad core version thanks to 2 gigs.
40. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
WHAT THE HELL SAMSUNG!!!!!.....im importing this
43. A.aoudi (Posts: 125; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
This is something many users all around the world were expecting with this phone. It is just not fair that they release it in one market and they will certainly loose sails to phones such as the LTE2
45. dcgore (Posts: 212; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)
I wonder how easy importing one of these devices into the US is.
46. APPLE_R0YALLY (banned) (Posts: 73; Member since: 08 May 2012)
EYE FEEL™ jealous. Those lucky Japanese.....!?
WE SAY® Samsung this is bad. WE™ fans allover
The world was hoping 2gb ram. EYE® WE™ say so
WE ARE™ not liking this.....!?