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Thanks to the Apple iPhone 5, Apple had 53.3% of U.S. smartphone sales in late November

0. phoneArena 22 Dec 2012, 10:04 posted on

Kantar Kantar Worldpanel ComTech has analyzed the 12 weeks through November 25th in the U.S. smartphone world and has found that strong demand for the Apple iPhone 5 has raised Apple's share of the stateside smartphone market to 53.3%; Apple's sales surge took business away from Android as year-over-year sales for the platform dropped 10.9 percentage points co,pared to a gain of 17.5 points for Apple...

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posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:15 11

1. Thephonegeek (Posts: 118; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)


Americans! Huh!

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:26 15

6. MeoCao (unregistered)


I read reports Apple are reducing iPhone 5 parts orders as sales are disappointing.

There are iPhone discounts only after a few weeks after launch which were unheard of until now which also indicate poor sales.

Perhaps most people who want iPhone 5 already bought it? So the spike in iPhone market share in US is only temporary!

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:28 14

8. androidisbaws (banned) (Posts: 74; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)


People finally realized that there's better phones. They probably only sold the amount they did that first weekend. Someone would be stupid to pick an iPhone over any other android phone.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 13:04 10

35. christianqwerty (Posts: 460; Member since: 05 May 2011)


How can you call someone stupid for buying an iphone over an android phone. Just because you like android, doesnt mean everyone else should.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:28 3

9. roscuthiii (Posts: 1832; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I think Apple's done what Apple enthusiasts claim the other manufacturers are doing... they're reporting their shipping numbers.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:51

20. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)


Those sales could also b causing a spike in iPhone purchases.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 14:47 1

37. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5847; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I suspect what is happening is that there are some element of the sales numbers that reflect conversions from RIM. I think a larger part of the story is the impact of the golden handcuffs of the iEcosystem. As was pointed out to me right after the iP5 was released, someone who has $100 - $200 invested in apps is not terribly interested in moving to an alternative OS unless they are really alienated by iOS. Especially if their apps are not also available elsewhere.

And, yes Apple is reporting shipments as sales.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 08:44 1

55. oister85 (Posts: 401; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Thats true my gf works at radioshack she says when it came out was a fever but after 3 weeks it slow down dramatically. She say samsung s3 is outselling the ip5.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 13:49

58. metalpoet (unregistered)


I am a sales manager for Radioshack and the craze for the iPhone 5 has fizzled out and people are more prone to purchasing an android device.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:10 1

24. apexKBC (Posts: 92; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)


its nt tru

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:21

26. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)


Y do u think its not true? It's not like the iPhone is a piece of junk, or isn't popular.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 12:49 4

33. doubler86 (Posts: 318; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)


because it goes against every other statistics that's factual, this has been labled as false in a lot of other forums already

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 13:15

36. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)


But where's their proof, and no I'm not a fan boy.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:11

39. Hemlocke (unregistered)


There is no proof. Android forums are like fanboy circle jerks. Say anything critical about Android, and throngs of angry fanboys will descend on you (Same here, obviously). Say anything positive about Apple, and they start tearing out their hair and making up "facts."

The fact is, this is not the first study that has come out in the last two weeks, and they all say roughly the same thing: Apple is having troubles in the financially strapped EU, and crushing it in the U.S.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 22:28 2

46. tedkord (Posts: 4932; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/30/comscore-android-us-market-share-kept-growing-in-october/

The facts are that these are single quarter numbers, encompassing a new release, in a single country. There's a new release spike every time. The rest of the year, Android crushes iOS, even in the US.

Here are the latest ComScore numbers, from October. Note that not only did Android retain a large lead over iOS, it grew more than iOS.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 00:36

49. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


1. Please dont act like Apple fanboys are any better.

2. This article is about a 12 week period and comparing it to the same 12 week period from last year. Those are the facts. Its not overall numbers.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 01:11

50. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


3. Look at the post above or below mine for the total numbers. Still a huge lead for Android.

Thats why I said before....for Android fans, this is no big deal. For Apple fans....congrats for the increase in a 12 week period.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 02:55

52. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Just taking away the initial weekend sales of iPhone 5 would show that Android is still selling better than Apple.
Also, it's not just the iPhone 5, but the 4 and 4s are making a significant share for Apple here.

As for your point about Europe - wake up, the whole rest of the world is seeing the Apple demise.
Brazil for example is a growing economy with huge population and Apple dropped to amazingly insignificant 1.4 percent there.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 13:46

57. metalpoet (unregistered)


As a fellow American, I am ashamed of the people of my country sometimes.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:16 6

2. androidisbaws (banned) (Posts: 74; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)


Iphonearena for sure. Probably isn't even true.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:28 7

10. ajac09 (Posts: 1367; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


if it was about an android iphonearena woudlnt even mention it. They still proving daily how biased they are.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 12:43 2

32. prakesh (Posts: 92; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)


no theyr not, this was posted already on gsmarena.

search first before u comment

sent from my samsung galaxy s3

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:59 1

41. joey_sfb (Posts: 3000; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I for one is happy that someone else is buying the expensive iPhone. It will never be me as iPhone is a low value over price feature phone.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 03:44

54. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


Even if they are biased, which I do feel sometimes, this article isn't the reason (reviews are). Here, they are just doing their job.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:21 5

3. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8574; Member since: 14 May 2012)


It's one thing to be invested in the Apple ecosystem because of the money you put into it, but when you get one just because everyone else has one, I just lose respect for you.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:50 1

19. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)


I put a lot of money into it, but I have the note 2 now. I just synced everything to my iPad 3. I need to see more from apple if I'm to buy another iPhone, and even then it'd just b to compliment the android device I have.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:22 2

4. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


I'd love to see the stats on this. At my location we sell 15 to 20 4 and 4S devices for every 5, b/c people want the phones on the cheap. Could be different elsewhere, but what I see every day in my store paints a VERY different picture for iPhone sales.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:46 1

29. kellkeezy (Posts: 57; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Same here man, where i work people all want the free ones more then paying 199

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:24 1

5. Ruckus (Posts: 276; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


This is probably true or close enough. Honestly where I work, when we sell a smartphone 9 times out of 10 its either an iPhone 5, 4S or the GS3.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:28 6

7. drnggaj33 (Posts: 127; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)


but overseas andriod has the market ....ppl in the u.s. just follow each other ....i hear ppl saty my friend has a iphone so ill get one smh ...pplk in the u.s. they're sheep

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:32 2

14. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


O no no good news!

i thought the states are wise and smart and inteligent?

Knowing that Apple reakly a bad company, they still buy Apple products...! This is there US pride, they are very loyal, how sad and pathetic, puuulleeeze™®©

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:48

30. TRADEMARK (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)


really error

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:28

11. AstronautJones (Posts: 266; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Isn't this the period immediately after the iPhone 5 release?
Let's check the stats the 3 months after the Galaxy S4 comes out.
Bet the stats are a little different.
Really need a full year cycle to get a good picture.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:32 2

12. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 859; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Reminds me of a friend of mine when he bought his iPhone he was like oh so awesome, now he's like this thing is boring, i regret buying it.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:33 2

15. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Me2™®©

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:32

13. roscuthiii (Posts: 1832; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I don't think it's exactly attributed the the iPhone 5 specifically.. The iPhone is a good solid smartphone, but it's what the iPhone 4 should have been 2 years ago. What your basically looking at is the pent up demand for the phone that the consumers wanted all along, plus... seemingly overlooked, is availability. iPhones are now more available than they were before. More availability + meeting consumer expectation = higher sales?! OMG stop the presses.

You know, it could also be a fluff piece sponsored by investors to bolster that waning AAPL... but that's more a conspiracy level possibility.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:34 1

16. androidisbaws (banned) (Posts: 74; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)


The iPhone 5 is what the 3GS should've been, android was already at the 5s level around that point

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:38

17. roscuthiii (Posts: 1832; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Well, I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt... didn't want to appear as though I'm a basher. PA doesn't take to kindly to that. Might get myself moderated or something. ;-)

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:27

27. bucky (Posts: 1494; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


You clearly don't remember what was out at that point do you...

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:48 3

18. Bernoulli (Posts: 1451; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Just in the United States, mind sharing the data for Europe, particularly Spain? Haha or Brazil, where symbian is above ios

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:58 2

21. rocko0011 (Posts: 34; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Bull****

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 10:59 2

22. sithvenger (banned) (Posts: 371; Member since: 25 Aug 2012)


This doesn't surprise me at all, as apple is always done strong sales here in the USA. What matters though is how many of those phones r kept vs returned. They need to do a stat on that, keeping the phone past the return period is what actually demonstrates customer satisfaction.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:09 4

23. jove39 (Posts: 1300; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Apple rising!

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:11 6

25. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Wasnt there already an article about basically the same thing just the other day? What happened? Did they shut that one down or something?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apples-iPhone-big-in-the-States-Android-dominating-everywhere-else_id37975

Hmmm....interesting....lol.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 11:30 1

28. zig8100 (Posts: 135; Member since: 13 Dec 2012)


Stupid re-post. I dont get why they post this twice. Excited much? Lol We all know its only for this month or three month period.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 12:31 2

31. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


But Windows Phone eating into share of iOS in many parts of world already :)
http://bgr.com/2012/12/21/windows-phone-growth-analysis-262829/

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 12:53 4

34. doubler86 (Posts: 318; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)


This is False, it goes against every other statistic out there for iPhone sales. Other forums are saying this same thing, Kantar was paid for, Apple is trying anything to make their stock go back up including lobbying. They've been loosing market share, not to mention I live in iPhones biggest selling region, Los Angeles, and they have gone down considerably in this region.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 16:48 2

38. chrisbo5 (Posts: 31; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)


Im really lost with this article. The last comscore graph showed android was at 54% and apple at 35% which was only october. how did apple jump 20% and android significantly drop?

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 22:33 1

47. tedkord (Posts: 4932; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


This is just sales over the single quarter, ComScore is overall share.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 17:41

40. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6567; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Do you really seriously have to put the title saying "THANKS"?

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 19:20

42. GoldenJoe (Posts: 9; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)


Doomed, eh?

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 19:51

43. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


The Mayans were right - This IS the end of the world for google fanboys

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 20:48

44. uncskeet (Posts: 27; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Probably because of experiences like mine with the Galaxy SIII & it's mainboard causing freezing of devices, even after replacement, as well as previous Android phones freezing, so I'm happy with my black iPhone 5, so I can take care of business instead of a device helping me lose money by locking up on business calls. I just bought my wife the White version. Android in my opinion still has to control these manufacturers & carriers to get my money again.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 22:34

48. tedkord (Posts: 4932; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Don't know what you were doing to your phone, but not a single lockup in over 6 months with my GS3.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 01:40

51. uncskeet (Posts: 27; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Not a thing. I know phones very well, on all OS. The problem was Samsung's mainboard issue, & read the article from a few days ago. If yours have no issues, good for you. I on the other hand had 2 units do the exact same think even with no apps downloaded. Plus, I don't do the bias fanboy s***. Read PA's article title SOME SAMSUNG GALAXY S3's ARE DYING YOUNG. No point in combatting my personal experience.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 02:56

53. leetg01 (Posts: 3; Member since: 22 Dec 2012)


This is just misleading data because it is just 12 weeks sales data since I phone 5 launched. Lagging iphone 5 demand exploding made a peak for a while, But the whole 2012 year share of IOS is just 20%, android is over 60%. This research is probably made for boosting Apple stock price. Don't be fool. It is just like trap to individual investors.

posted on 23 Dec 2012, 09:10

56. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


This is the kind of news that causes Apple to get lazy and high on themselves. I see Android OEM's coming out even harder in 2013. Expect another 4 inch iPhone that brings nothing new to the table.

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