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Tegra 4 vs Snapdragon 800: who will be the dominant player on the chipset market this year

0. phoneArena 14 Jan 2013, 04:15 posted on

CES 2013 was the show of mobile chipsets. First, it was Nvidia that announced its next-gen processor, the Tegra 4, followed by Qualcomm and its new Snapdragon line. Finally, Samsung joined the party with its Exynos 5 Octa, but all in all we're more concerned with the Tegra 4 and Snapdragon 800, as those end up used by multiple manufacturers and in multiple phones, whereas Samsung's Exynos is mostly reserved for Samsung's own high-end devices...

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posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:24 4

1. wendygarett (unregistered)

As usual, crapdragon dominate smartphone while tegra 4 dominate tablets... not just android but the Microsoft as well...

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 05:02 1

13. wendygarett (unregistered)

I just get used of it bro... I'm sorry k? Lol

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:30 5

5. wendygarett (unregistered)

Typo, is snapdragon >.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:48 24

10. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)

do you really believe that we'll buy that? there is a pretty big gap between 's' and 'c' and an even bigger between 'n' and 'r'

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:58 5

12. zhiae (unregistered)

one thing egnyos 5450

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 05:34 3

16. MeoCao (unregistered)

I cast my vote to Tegra at this point as I don't know much about S800.

But I hope Tegra and Snapdragon will fight each other like Airbus and Boeing. Customers always love such fights of equal opponents.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 13:56 2

53. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)

You mean sue eachother relentlessly in a number of international courts, each asking for injunctions and damages...

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 21:44 1

58. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

I hope REALLY high-end smartphones will have BOTH chipsets.

BY either late 2013 or early-mid 2014

(That obviously won't happen and will be way 2 expensive, but I'm just hopin'!)

posted on 15 Jan 2013, 04:36

61. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)

Look what I found. Tegra 4 will launch in 4 variants.


posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:25 5

2. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:32 1

6. wendygarett (unregistered)

But only one will be the dominant player bro :)
it can't be both...

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 05:37 6

17. bbblader (Posts: 590; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:28 5

3. Techsplash (Posts: 41; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

tegra 4

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:29 15

4. KazEmpire (Posts: 39; Member since: 07 Nov 2011)

I Vote for the One with better performance.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:32 4

7. bakhtawar (Posts: 41; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)

snapdragon 800 ftw

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:32 6

8. aayupanday (Posts: 580; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

Nvidia Tegra 4 might power the upcoming HTC M7...

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 23:07 3

59. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)

Nope. It's been confirmed multiple times that it will be a Qualcomm chipset.

posted on 12 Feb 2013, 21:44

76. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)

It will be an s4 pro.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:33 5

9. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


posted on 14 Jan 2013, 04:53 6

11. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

Ray: I'm not sure how you call unimpressive the Adreno 330...
Adreno 225 has 50% better perfomance than Tegra3, and Adreno 320 doubles that, so it's 3 times more performing than Tegra3. If Adreno 330 doubles that again it will have around 6 times the performance of the Tegra3 GPU too.
In fact the Exynos Octa will be also be around similar numbers as it aproximately doubles the performance of the PowerVR SGX MP3 of the iPhone 5, which in turn doubles the SGP MP2 of the iPhone 4S wich again is around 50% more powerful than than the Tegra3 GPU.
So the race is going to be really tight, I hope to see the first results soon!!

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 06:42 3

21. Retro-touch (Posts: 274; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

I hope so, Tegra chips are always overhyped and then end up underperforming compared to competition, I'm still looking towards Exynos since they perform great and currently S4 is a wonderful chipset so I'm sure Snapdragon will not disappoint

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 07:40 4

23. cezarepc (Posts: 716; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)

The benchmark scores of my Tegra3-powered-Nexus7 is not chart-topping. Compared to dual-kraits and quad-exynos, my chipset is no match. I used to "listen" to what "experts" say and I was always like "I will never get a non-exynos phone!" simply because it was the best chip overall. But ever since I got my N7, my outlook changed. My next purchase will not depend on what chip is inside, but how the manufacturer made the most out of the chip. I'll wait for the next 7" nexus anyway :p

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 07:52 2

25. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

So, if all statistics are correct;

Adreno 330 = Tegra 4 = PowerVR SGX544MP3

Quad Krait 400 > Quad A15 (Qualcomm said it brought 75% CPU increase from S4 quad Krait, which was about 30% sub par of A15)

Exynos 5 Octa = 2x Tegra 4 because of same GPU strength yet double the cores with same architecture

Exynos 5 Octa = 1.5x Snapdragon 800 since Krait 400 brings about 50% CPU increase from Tegra 4, but still same GPU power

Of course there are variations of clock speeds, and the Exynos 5 Octa has double the amount of cores.

So when clock speeds remain constant,

Exynos 5 Octa > Snapdragon 800 > Tegra 4

Unless my math is wrong, which is a good possibility since it's early in the morning, I shouldn't be doing math.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 08:08 8

28. remixfa (Posts: 14337; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

cores dont automatically mean more power than another chip... only more power in that chip's vertical.

However, Id be surprised if the Exynos 5 octa isnt the most powerful chip around. Hell, Id be surprised if these chips beat the E5 quad by more than a slim margin.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 08:31 3

30. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

What are you talking about?
Krait 400 is up 75% at 2.3Ghz compared to 1.5 of the current Krait.
Put A15 on that clock speed and it would outperform the K400.
And you don't know the clock speed on either the Tegra 4 and Exynos Octa.
Also, Exynos Octa is only four A15 cores working at the same time.
The other four are the A7 ones

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 08:32 2

31. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

Bufff, you did so many mistakes that I don't even know where to start correcting....
Exynons is not really "octa", it's a LITTLE.big architecture, so actually it should be around as powerful as Tegra4 (both have quad cores A15, but the exynos has 4 A7 against 1 A7 in the Tegra for battery savings)

The Krait 400 will be 75% over S4 with speed included, while A15 is 30% over Krait at the SAME clock, so your math is completey messed up. The expectation is that Krait 400 will be a bit short of A15 cores at the same speed, but it will made up to it by using higher clock speeds (Tegra will use 1.9 GHz and Exynos octa 1.8 GHz, while Snapdragon 800 will use 2.3 GHz instead).
So it will be also tight in CPU performance.

I won't even try to fix your complete post... Too tyring.

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 08:33

32. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

You just posted it one minute before I ended my own reple :D

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 08:34

33. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)

Hell, I would be surprised if the new Intel Chip (used in Lenovo K900) doesn't have a quad core version to beat the hell out of the 'octa'...

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 09:11

36. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1542; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

It has, but it's not ready yet. It won't come to the market till the end of this year.
The code name is "Bay Trail" (as opposed to "Clover Trail" for the dual cores) and it will feature not only quad core but Out of order CPU architecture in order to equal the performance of the A15 cores. Also it will be built in 22nm not 32nm as the current Atom SoCs are.
If done right it may be a big step for Intel in the right direction in the mobile chips.
The GPU is still unknown (at least to me).

posted on 14 Jan 2013, 14:27

54. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Actually the Tegra 4 has 1 A15 core for power saving and not an A7.

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