Teen finds Apple iPhone 5 under the tree, along with rules and conditions from his mom
0. phoneArena 31 Dec 2012, 13:07 posted on
Greg Hoffman was as excited as any 13 year old boy would be to find an Apple iPhone under the tree for Christmas, but the joy of the moment faded a bit when he discovered an 18 point set of rules and restrictions that he had to agree to before keeping the phone; the rules did not come from the carrier or from Apple, but came from Hoffman's mother...
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8. cripton805 (Posts: 1421; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
I can already tell this kid isnt ready for a smart phone. Especially if his parents need to have him follow a contract.
I would have bought him an iPod Touch and a simple feature phone. Or even better yet, make him work around the house to pay his monthly bill.
36. Baseballer (Posts: 132; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
His parents don't trust him, that's why
10. jmoney62987 (Posts: 31; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)
Wow talk about crazy parent. I understand a lot of this but 13 and 15 are dumb. Let your kid take pics of whatever as long as it isnt sexting. dumb.
15. Cerberusa2a (Posts: 33; Member since: 24 May 2012)
I actually like this whole list. People need to expand their horizons and try to enjoy a little bit of everything. Radios now replay the same trash over and over again, same song different radio station. As for the pictures i think she means not to have your face in the screen the whole time. Kudos to this parent for actually being a parent and teaching the child good manners.
13. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
And that's why I would have waited for the kid to turn 15-16 before getting a phone, anything under that age is annoying..... Also I can already see a lot of loopholes to do things I want :D
19. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i was 10 when i first got a cellphone. xD
27. metalpoet (unregistered)
I was 14 and it was held together with tape because my mother gave me her old cellphone and it didnt have texting on it, just phone calls. every cell phone afterwards I saved up and purchased myself starting at age 17. I never sexted, took nude pix, or cheated in class with my phone. kids these days have too much freedom.
39. timtimity (Posts: 196; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)
I remember my first phone. It could only store 10 text messages!
108. linneti15 (Posts: 49; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Oh well that time has passed metalpoet. What have you got now? I haven't sexted or cheated in class either and yet I have a smartphone and am a teenager?? Yea that tells you that freedom is such a bad thing...?? right?? wrong!! you sound like a nazi.
109. linneti15 (Posts: 49; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Just saw you have a galaxy s3 "metalpoet".. the freedom in that must be killing you, just like the 70% of smartphone owners that have android phones... i really feel for their excessive amount of freedom.. (s)
44. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Actually I was 16 when I got mine,I'm 24 witch is quite old these days but still think 16 was a great time to get one, also got a smartphone when I turned 19 it was awesome for the time I had it
59. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
16 was the best age to give your child a cell phone because it determined whether your child was going to screw up or not by what they did with responsibility.
Now kids are considered lucky to get a smart phone at 10 or a flip phone at 13.
133. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I personally did not needed a phone back there, an iPod should be the nearest thing I would give to a kid, does your kid goes to so many places or stays outside the house for so long they need s phone?
14. timtimity (Posts: 196; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)
I get a lot of these points, but if mobile phones were as integrated into everyday life as they are now when I was 13 and I was given a phone, my parents would have trusted me without having to make a list. My parents trusted that they'd raised me well enough that all the stuff regarding politeness had become natural behaviour to me and wouldn't need to be mentioned.
37. Baseballer (Posts: 132; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
plus 1 for that! Its basically all about trust from your parents. You hit it right on!
54. darkkjedii (Posts: 19750; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Good point, but those r your parents. These r his, and they have the rite...don't I think?
16. tigermcm (Posts: 851; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
I don't know how long I've been saying kids need not have cell phones. If you as a parent want to get your child a phone 1. get a simple flip,feature phone. 2. if they are a teenager go to work and get your own phone point blank period.
17. solidsnakeduds013 (Posts: 218; Member since: 20 Oct 2010)
Might as well not have the phone. Not even that. Give him a flip phone. He wouldnt want to use it much. He would still have his social side.
18. jimjam (Posts: 257; Member since: 28 Jun 2011)
So that is where all the dumb comments on here come from ... 13yr old boys.
20. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i think a lot of this is fair but it doesn't seem like he's going to get to use it enough to justify it. he can't even take it to school.
21. jimjam (Posts: 257; Member since: 28 Jun 2011)
Its a gift....need to rewrite #1
I thought he was a "proud owner" Doh!
22. jimjam (Posts: 257; Member since: 28 Jun 2011)
He also could probably replace the phone with the money he got selling this story!
23. darkkjedii (Posts: 19750; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Smart parenting. I wish we had gifts like this, when I was 13.
26. brycdavis (Posts: 30; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
Parent of the year! I applaud her rules and guidelines. I can't imagine what kinds of freaky stuff I would be into if I had access to the internet at a young age....It took me all night to download a good "adult" movie on the old dial up days 28.8k all the way...ha!
28. skymitch89 (Posts: 1291; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
I can see where the parent is coming from with most of the rules, but the one I don't understand is having to hand the phone over at 7:30pm on school nights an 9pm on weekends and doesn't get it back until 7:30am. That means he only gets it for 12hrs, but that doesn't include having to leave it at home when he goes to school; so he technically only gets like maybe 4hrs of use out of it during the school day. I would say that it's pointless in him having an iPhone, let alone any phone, with those stipulations.
On another note, I don't see how starting your teenager off with a smartphone is very smart. In my opinion, teens should be started off with a cheap pre-paid flip phone, mostly to see how responsible they really are. Then I believe they should be "upgraded" to a pre-paid smartphone, or a smartphone through a non-contract post-paid company like Boost or Cricket.
49. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---" I don't understand is having to hand the phone over at 7:30pm on school nights an 9pm on weekends and doesn't get it back until 7:30am."---
Because at 13, kids try to text all night during school nights losing sleep or ignore chores on the weekends. So what if it is only 4 hours? If a child wants an expensive powerful toy, there needs to be compromise.
50. downphoenix (Posts: 3155; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Probably a starting point. Im sure the parent would relax the time restrictions some and even let them take it to school if they demonstrated they did good with it at home. Also it does say there are special stipulations such as for days when they have half days at school or field trips.
85. Tsoliades (Posts: 228; Member since: 22 Dec 2012)
I agree with all this.
Don't give your kid a hell-load of stupid rules, start them out with a cheaper phone.
29. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I like this. My nephews have limits as well. There isn't anything inherently wrong with a kid having a phone.
30. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
It seems like she's trying to use the phone to teach him social skills, or at least make sure it doesn't stunt them...but I think that's borderline skiing up hill, or at least pissing in the wind.
And I feel like the idea of a loan or loaned item as a Christmas gift is borderline insulting.
Well, we'll see where it goes maybe?
31. SavageLucy42 (Posts: 211; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)
The basic gist I get from rules like this is "I neither trust you nor have faith in you to behave as I have raised you to behave."
I just didn't let my little brother get a smartphone until I felt he was old/responsible enough to handle one. I remember telling him that no 14-year-old needs an iPhone. When he turned 17 I got him a Galaxy.
Admittedly his little girlfriend is 15 and has a Galaxy as well, but her mother makes her pay for any data overage she incurs. I felt this was a pretty smart way to regulate usage. She left her phone over at our house once, and my mom was about to look through the photos when I said, "Even children deserve privacy." Mom agreed, and we gave her phone to my brother to return to her.
61. ibap (Posts: 752; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)
And why are you making this decision about his phone and not your parents?
63. SavageLucy42 (Posts: 211; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)
Because my dad ran away with a whore and my mom doesn't know anything about phones and asked me what was okay to get for him. Also because I pay the phone bill.
65. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Because he is more knowledgeable on the matter than his parents in the situation.
72. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Everyone on the internet is only to be referred to as a male. Sorry.
38. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Obviously, the parents are grooming a child that knows nothing about Apple, on how to follow rules and regiments that he will encounter while owning an Apple product!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Happy New Year everyone!
45. brycdavis (Posts: 30; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
Because they knew that the youngsters that visit this site would freak out! So unfair...what a terrible mom! My mommy trusts me! I've earned it!
These young pups don't appreciate what they have..they feel like it is their right (guess what...Its a privilage). Hell, I didn't get a cell phone until college, which I paid for with my own money. I even remember what it is like to actually talk on the phone and have REAL conversations. Can you believe that we actually had to memorize phone numbers! It was horrible! How did we survive?!?
Sheesh...Spoiled arrrs kids!
86. Tsoliades (Posts: 228; Member since: 22 Dec 2012)
You sound like the stereotypical grandpa running around hollering "Damn kids have it too easy!'' Lighten up a bit.
105. brycdavis (Posts: 30; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
In my day........ Ok I guess I do lol and I'm not even 40!
101. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
er my gawd, remembering numbers? Actually talking to people? The horror!
41. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I salute this mother!
I wish all the parents were like her..
47. korean411 (Posts: 78; Member since: 04 May 2009)
i understand that most people would say people under 18 shouldn't use a smartphone and should feel lucky if they have any technology at all . that is pretty much wishful thinking considering this is the golden generation of technology. where it is fast, always updated, and pretty much the society is connected up this technology especially smartphone. An example if you go say like south korea pretty much everyone that is like 10 and up has a smartphone. it is they way the society works around the technology. some parents are being smart about like this parent is doing. Cellphones wasn't has big back then as it is now because back then it was starting up and wasn't really stable and expensive, while now it is stable and pretty much every phone cost the same and same goes with the plan. To me it isn't a big deal but i have to say smart parenting.
51. iGREGG (Posts: 66; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
what's the point of giving the kid the phone if he cant use it..??
i'd be like f**k it... give me af lip phone and a 4th generation ipod and keep your rules MOM!
that/s like a girl telling u to go out and buy condoms so yall can have sex
and she says that you cant touch her during the act
53. ckoch125 (Posts: 192; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
13 year olds getting iPhones? Man when I was 13 I didn't even have a flip phone lol
79. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
We had the oldie Motorola MicroTAC and I never had a phone when I was 13yrs either spoiled brat
66. emes360 (Posts: 13; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
I think having the kid agree to some rules is a great idea, but the rule about not taking the phone to school seems a little silly to me. I mean thats exacly when he needs it most, to call or text his parents in case of an emergency, or play a game or something when he gets bored at lunch break.
70. emes360 (Posts: 13; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
And also I hope his parents won't read his texts without permission, that would be invaiding his private space and quite rude actually.
90. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
As long as the child lives in their house, privacy is anything they grant him. Anything more than that he should acquire on his own when he is of age and sufficient responsibility.
Think of all the bad things that happen to and by kids without proper parenting.
67. ibap (Posts: 752; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)
One part of me says think of this as an iPod Touch with a phone in it.
But as the parent of an 18-year-old freshman chemical engineering student who has repeatedly turned down a smartphone as too distracting, I'd say buy him a phone, but not the phone you bought him. If he wanted a car, would you buy him one? And what is the point of a phone that he can't take to school at all? The primary reason our daughter got one in eighth grade was that she was involved in so much stuff at school, it was a convenience for her to be able to call when she needed to stay after, and I could text her knowing she'd see the message at the end of the day. Our school had rules and enforced them, regarding cell phones.
Children learn by watching their parents. What kind of smartphone manners have you demonstrated for him? "Hot Damn!" - in a document for a 13-year-old? No wonder you're worried about his behavior around the families of those he might communicate with.
69. ibap (Posts: 752; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)
And to all those who can't write a comment that doesn't require multiple asterisks - you don't belong in this conversation.
71. Deaconclgi (Posts: 405; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Soooooooooo she curses in the letter to her 13 year old child....and before anyone asks, I'm a father of 2, ages 16 and 19 and responsibility extends to the parents as well.
73. dreddserious (Posts: 5; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)
Just don't get him one in the first place, and don't tell someone how to use their own phone. Stupid set of rules, glad she's not my mom, though I bought my own first phone when I was 19
77. billybuttpounder (banned) (Posts: 105; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
It is NOT "his" phone. His mother bought it and pays the bill, which is clearly stated in the contract.
97. SavageLucy42 (Posts: 211; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)
Well she starts off saying "You are the proud owner of an iPhone!" before going into how it's actually her phone.
91. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I got my own phone at 17, but I alone paid for it, so I made my own rules (and it was prepaid before "unlimited" was easily attainable, back in the days of 200 minutes and texts for like $20/mo. This kid is 13, and it isn't a phone he bought, pays for, or could sustain independently. This is a completely generous arrangement.
76. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
This just shows how technology has changed things, when I was thirteen all I cared about was riding my dyno. Playing football and hanging out with my friends. House phones were sufficient enough