Will Nokia make any changes to the device for the U.S. market? That remains to be seen. But it looks like the code is broken and now it is just a matter of waiting for Monday. Who's excited?
source: NokiaInnovations via DailyMobile
1. disneydad (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
Symbian Belle in the long run = 808s & Heartbreak....
16. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Will anyone be getting this phone?....
Its big thick chunky and ugly.....
20. fur0n (Posts: 69; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
if i won it in a contest or given it for free somehow
23. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I'm getting it regardless of price. However, if I could use my upgrade on T-Mobile to get it for less, I would be quite happy
27. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
I don't really understand how you people think. When Nokia announced that there's no 808 for US,or north america, everyone's like "Oh, please come to US. i really want one. " or "how could i get this phone? I'm from US and I want one."
Seriously, now that it's arriving, haters start to insult this phone. I don't really really get how your mind works.
33. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Because my daily use phone is already Symbian, and this is the best of the platform, so it suits my needs. Plus, I don't care if it is a bit chunky, because it is still less bulky than carrying any phone and a separate camera of equivalent (or even lesser) quality as the PureView's. Not only that, it's my money, and I'll do what I want with it. People choose to waste their money on iPhones, or apple laptops, despite their inferiority and overpriced-ness, or they'll buy other stuff at higher-than-"normal" frequency because it is new and exciting, like TVs, video games, computers, cars, shoes, clothes, etc. I choose to spend my spare income on phones, having recently purchased a Nokia Lumia 900 so I could try Windows Phone as Microsoft and Nokia (my preferred phone brand, and the only one I've yet spent any money ever acquiring) intended, and to show them that I, as an American in a slightly unfriendly market, like their products and would (and do) buy it, rather than just flapping my gums in support of it and hoping they'll continue to bring their best products to my market so I cam easily acquire it. To that point, I'd own an N8 instead of a C7 if I'd ever found it compelling enough to purchase without a contract as no U.S. carrier had sold it, and if I did have it, I might be less compelled to purchase the 808 regardless of price. As it stands, the 808 is even more desirable, with its larger screen, more potent processor, and stunningly good camera.
TL;DR, try it before you criticize it.
43. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
and so is your name
45. primarchlion (Posts: 5; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
Odds are I won't be getting it, but it's because of the OS and screen res, not the looks. Actually it looks rather comfortable to me. Flat plates aren't the most ergonomic, in my opinion.
21. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Yeah, but I hear Symbian isn't a TERRIBLE operating system. I might get this phone just for the lulz.
EDIT: And the camera, of course. Lol.
26. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I'm using a Symbian-running Nokia C7 to post this. The OS does show its age somewhat, and it could be faster (hardware could be to blame), but it keeps getting updates (for now) keeping it fresh and functional. I find it easier to use and more capable than ios and any other mobile OS except Android and Windows Phone 7/7.5. The 808 is likely the breed's "swan song", and what a one it is. While I personally wished Nokia had pursued MeeGo as a successor to Symbian, with Windows Phone alongside for the mainstream or less-involved smartphone users, I understand why: it's the same reason Ford killed off the Crown Victoria and Ranger, that is, old but functional platform, but too expensive to keep relevant, especially when buyers aren't supporting the product as-is despite its appeal from enthusiasts and loyalists. I hope Nokia keeps developing Symbian, and releases Carla and Donna, but with the restructuring and reallocations of funds I'm afraid that sort of direction will be more from a developer or team thereof until the platform is exhausted or the equipment can't keep up
28. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
meego is old ?
32. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
No, just stillborn, with much sadness. I'd love an N9 if only for the novelty and to see what the future could/would hold
46. CharlieAtInfinity (Posts: 253; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)
Symbian is still better than WP 7.5!! much more features in Symbian
24. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Symbian belle hater. Don't underestimate a phone by it's OS.
2. steven252000 (Posts: 64; Member since: 10 Feb 2010)
Seems like I heard while the camera was great the phone its self was not so great......so is it really that big a deal if it come to the U.S.?
3. akita256 (Posts: 80; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)
I'll never understand why Nokia decided to put such a high-end camera on such a lower-end phone.
4. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
because there's no high end phone that can come with it that would make it graspable in the hands. and no OS can control such camera... yet.
11. bbblader (Posts: 588; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
also because if it had better specs it could rival the lumia version that is being produced now
5. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 590; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
I wonder if it will have carrier support or will it be stuck in unlocked Hell.
8. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Unlocked is only hell because of the prices but other than that I see no disadvantage especially with Androids where you don't have to wait for carriers to push updates to your phone.
12. cityeighteen (Posts: 40; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Just go with a prepaid plan (such as RedPocket or StraightTalk) and unlocked becomes the cheaper option.
29. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
dont buy carrier phones if you are a real fandroid
30. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
T-Mobile is also a good choice. Their Value plans give a discount for having your own phone, and with the 1900MHz spectrum being allocated, more phones will work on their faster data services. AT&T prepaid or other prepaid that use AT&T's network would also be good for better coverage and solid speeds
7. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 590; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
It would be cool if it were the announcement of the Lumia 808 with WP7 upgradable to Apollo but I'm probably dreaming.
9. santaclaus (Posts: 52; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
belle is lack of support in US....
will it probably mean lumia pureview is popular in US and they will launch it on that day?
13. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
it runs Belle FP1
and the specs dont need to be Android like because the OS is mature enough to run smoothly without it
14. fur0n (Posts: 69; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
I don't think it will get all too many sales because the Samsung galaxy s3 is hitting the us on Thursday.
18. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Even if the GSIII wasn't on sale in the US, this phone will still be a fail...
19. fur0n (Posts: 69; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
ya almost any phone coming out now days has better specs besides the camera.
34. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Specs aren't everything, and your statement is inaccurate. Yes, a Galaxy S3, HTC OneX, and any number of other high-end phones could run circles around this for certain tasks like graphics or data speed. However, I counter that with the following: first, the 808 isn't designed to compete with those. It's not even priced near them, so Nokia recognizes that, while it's the highest-spec Symbian yet released, folks aren't cross-shopping it with more mainstream devices. It's a niche phone, and it is honest about that. Secondly, the specs are good for what it does: 4" AMOLED with ClearBlack technology, more than enough RAM and processing power for making the 808 the most fluid and responsive Symbian yet, in addition to handling the extensive tasks involving the camera's operation. Third, high-end specs of late tend to be in place In order to make up for inefficiencies in the software though to be fair, some folks are using their phones for near-computer tasks, so the processing power isn't being used just to hide inefficiencies. Windows Phone, MeeGo, and (it pains me to say this) even ios demonstrate that decently written OSes can run solidly without cutting-edge specs. I'm not saying all phones that use cutting edge specs are using inefficient software, just that there are some that do, and, sadly, the most popular of these is Android (which I like!) so there is the misconception that everyone NEEDZ MOAR POWA or else the phone is junk, which is very much not the case. Quad core Androids aren't even using all the cores, to demonstrate the point that more isn't better or even necessary for now. Just like computers, most software doesn't require the high end spec components, but it's nice having the power there for if/when it IS needed.
36. deadhead (Posts: 17; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
The main reason the GS3 will sell more, is because ATT and Verizon will subsidize the s**t out of it..
if you put the 808 and the GS3 in a store next to each other @ $700 each I bet the difference in sales will be completely different.
15. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Wow, if only Nokia marketed the N900 and N9 this way. Idiots, selling their soul to the devil.
31. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
What do you mean 'market'? This is just a Facebook page for the Nokia 808. Besides, if Nokia is able to 'market' the Nokia 808, it would be worth it due only to the Pureview technology.
Sorry, but the N900 nor the N9 had such groundbreaking tech, at least none that would have appealed to the masses. Nonetheless, all 3 devices are niche, but the Nokia 808 will probably have greater sales than the N900 and the N9 due to the camera.
37. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I agree that the N series haven't been huge sellers and not compelling to the average buyer, and that they are absolutely niche products, however, they are cutting edge. Think of them as the equivalent of Google's Nexus line: the N series have shown Nokia's latest distribution-ready tech and R&D, that sometimes isn't mainstream ready, but appeals to early-adopters who want the absolute newest tech in the industry before everyone else. In a way, both lines are like the Mercedes S-Class or other high-luxury vehicles, or the best supercars (or use whatever other industry you want, be it audio, electronics, appliances, computers, whatever): state of the art tech that will eventually trickle flown to mainstream "average" products of the same industry that only limited buyers have access to initially. For Symbian, Nokia, and camera enthusiasts, this is our S-Class, our Ferrari, the thing we can acquire which gives us a glimpse of the future in the industry that we can use now, even if it does use some older tech to pull it off. Mercedes still uses an internal combustion engine, still uses typical doors, and doesn't push the boundaries of design, ergonomics, or aesthetics, but you don't hear complaints from customers dropping over $100k for one
35. deadhead (Posts: 17; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
I've been using Symbian in the US for a long time.. Belle does everything the other "modern" smartphones do.. some things a little better, some things a little worse..you kow, normal stuff.
The 808 is the only exciting phone on the market right now, everything else just looks mundane..
38. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Exactly. Not just for us, but at CES 2012.
Let's review examples:
Galaxy S3: great, but not as overwhelmingly superior as its predecessors.
Iphone4s: improvements over its predecessors, most notably the camera, but still an iPhone, still mostly unchanged for user experience compared to the original.
Lumia 900: great to look at and use (i own one) , excellent at what it does and very satisfying for it, but it doesn't stir the imagination or break any molds the N9 and Lumia 800 didn't do, excepting U.S. carrier availability.
Sony Xperia [any]: again, visually striking for its uniqueness, good camera, but not very compelling.
DROID RAZR/ RAZR MAXX: great design, very good battery life given the size, but still aged, and with the onset of multiple gigs of RAM and quad core processors ( even though unnecessary, still cutting edge) less competitive and compelling, especially if/when it's successor comes out.
The only specs I'm interested in are screen size, resolution, and camera quality. The OSes are satisfactory with common specs, so the extra goodies are what set the phones truly apart, for me anyway
39. metoyou (Posts: 279; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
It's a shame that this phone come with such out dated hardware. I bet with at least duo-core (S4) and 1 gb of ram, this little guy will sell like a hot cake.
41. stylinred (Posts: 50; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
well no1 can really complain about more ram ;) but nokia did put 2x the amount of ram/cpu speed compared to the last generation
42. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
STOP TEASING NOKIA AND BRING THIS TO A CARRIER.
44. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Bring the camera but not the OS. Would be sending mixed messages to consumers.