Switching from Android to Windows Phone Part 3: apps Marketplace, Xbox Live, and Google services
1. demarmj (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 May 2012)
I have mixed feelings about this...You're right that there are quite a bit of apps that are around 3-5 dollars. There are a few apps that I wish were on there like Zynga games (words with friends etc)...most apps I used on android have solid alternatives...again I wish there was a battery shortcut app...what's nice to read is that Microsoft is doing all it can to pay companies to develop solid apps while getting its user's opinions in some countries. Only time will tell, again I remember in the early days of android when the number of apps was a problem, and in just a short period of time, they were surpassing everyone, so i'm excited to see what the future has to offer (can't be worse than BB that's for sure :-P )
2. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
So... on a 1 - 10 scale, how would you rate WP7 from your experiences? 1 being horrible, 5 being so/so (equal good and bad), and of course 10 being super awesome.
3. demarmj (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 May 2012)
6.5-7...it's solid...it's not flawed...it won't breakdown...but in no way does it have the functionality or apps as seen on android and ios...however...that doesn't make it horrible, just needs to mature a little bit like all early platforms...I would say a little better than so/so imho.
4. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2649; Member since: 26 May 2011)
For me personally, I'd probably give WP7 about a 7 or so, iOS would get a 6.5 or so, Android 4.x is around an 8.5, Android 2.3 is a 7.5, and BB is a 3.
Of course, if I rank on a scale of 1-10 based on how likely I'd be to suggest a platform to someone not so tech savvy, iOS and WP7 would probably be ahead of Android, and BB would still be dead last by far.
6. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)
micheal, why do you rate BB so horrible? Could you explain??
7. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2649; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Admittedly, I haven't used the Torch or any touchscreen BB, but I just think the system is a relic. I hate the hardware. Apps are expensive and not that good. And, the system offers little of value. BBM seems to be the only useful thing that RIM has. Basically, the smartphone world has evolved, and left BB behind in my opinion. It's a shame too, because BB used to be ahead of the curve.
14. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
your not missing anything with the torch/bold touch. when using it, im so used to not having a touch screen, the only time the touch screen actually became useful was for P2Z in a browser. Touch is an afterthought on that platform, and is treated like such.
Though, you forgot about RIM's bread and butter, BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server) email. Thats where they make their money. And its pretty much the only reason they are still alive as a company.
not so tech savy? hmm.. id probably rank WP7, ICS, iOS, BB. ICS is so easy and has so many "how to's" at start up, you could be Forrest Gump and still figure it out with ease.
26. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
About tech saavy....
My kids mother is very non techy. She browses the web, listens to music, use the Youtube app, plays games, texts, makes calls, takes pics, uses Netflix, use turn by turn navigation.
If thats considered tech saavy.....lol. Android can be as simple as any other phone. The kicker? Me and her were lost when she got her iPhone 4. We both got lost with that one button setup and how to navigate the Settings area. She thought you needed to get a Bluetooth app to use Bluetooth. I had to go online to find where Bluetooth settings were.
We were both used to it being in Wireless and Network Settings...on Win MO and Android. She also made the decison she doesnt like ICS...she keeps declining the update on her Nexus S. She tried it before. .
Guess which phone was harder for her to use GPS on....lol.
I really dont think Android is a complicated as some of us make it out to be....and iOS isnt as easy as some of us make it out to be...
Simple or complicated depends on how we use our phones. What we are used to.
5. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)
I would rate, AFTER the wp8 released...
11. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
8-9 if you are blonde girl with no brain
6 if you are older person with need of bigger font
4,5 average user who like to set whole long mp3 to ringtone and like to do with files whatever he pleases
2- if you average poweruser, customization root but no rom swapping
1- if you are poweruser and like to customize roms and do everythink
13. haseebzahid (Posts: 1801; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well for ur last 2 rating are for nerds who are never satisfied with what they have
15. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
on and BTW for advanced business solutions it is like 1,5
I am very satified with Android and i am in 2 rating
16. haseebzahid (Posts: 1801; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
ok this comment is general for all articles of WP i ever seen ......................................>The thing is android has made people big time braggers of how much customized phone they have while everyone know its the feature of android they still dont shutup telling that and they goes to articles that is mostly not releated to android at all and start their stupid comment war of customization and what the point of visting other articles "just to bash"
secondly they will start more stupid specification bragging war which in current timeline is not even utilized correctly for example i can run a developer suit etc.. on dual core PC makes sence and what is android utilizing it for "games songs,maps,tiny softwares"is that it.tell me that when u have some real appication ruinng on the dual/quad core, so my Conclusion is Android guys are mostly retards with nothing left to do in their life but to bash others which is actually a mentle level of 10 years old kid
18. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
you suck man, even Symbian has descent customization options, sometimes bigger than android for example in menu you can put whatever app or settings wherewer you want
24. haseebzahid (Posts: 1801; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
my point exatly i know all that stuff u guys dont have to tell it over and over again thats the whole point of my post u noobs tell the same old story that everyone know while i never said it is good or bad i was pointing at the cutomers who always brag about it technology is good no matter where it is coming from u guys need to get a life and stop bragging
25. haseebzahid (Posts: 1801; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
I love WP due the fact it has given totally different OS with new ways to think off since the Android/IOS/Symbian they all look quite similar. WP gives us ready to use System for not scewing it up so i can use moblie to optimum performance like ANDROID which stats "we are too lazy to FIX or optimize all android phones for the OS so do it ur self and dont bother us this is open system"
yeah right this is the customization u are talking about except most expensive Android phone u always have to work for ur phone to be optimized lame workaround arguments. although the OS is fine from other espects. this costimzation is nothing if u are uncertain will it work after scewing up or customizing
27. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Same can be said of some fans of ANY mobile OS. WP7 fans scream smooth scrolling, Live Tiles. iOS fans scream copying, stability, quality of apps.
They both scream simplicity. Which isnt as clear cut really. See my post about about that.
The fanboys dont speak for all users...no matter which mobile OS. So what are iOS fans of WP7 fans that bash others? Have a name for them?
Dual core on phones is about better multi tasking, taxing the battery less doing more.
I see you are lumping all Android users and all Android phones as one. All Android isers arent fanboys and all Android phones arent created equal. WP7 phones will be getting there soon. MS, Nokia decided to put less ram in low end phones. That might cause issues later on.
I dont have to optimize my RAZR...for my wants n needs. It does what I want when I want pretty good. My Droid X1 and Droid 1 were good to. DX1 startedd rebooting when listening to the FM Radio as months went by.
And...no mobile OS is perfect. I can pull up troubleshooting forums for iOS and WP7....
29. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
im #1, and ive been beyond satisfied with my SGS1. Its time to upgrade it though. :)
17. haseebzahid (Posts: 1801; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
can u replace ur contract sim for catagory 1,2 huuh
19. Penny (Posts: 1096; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
You are a phone power user. Congrats. I am a computer power user. As in real, powerful, productive systems we call desktops, of which I build my own with the latest and greatest components. Some of us REAL power users don't like to waste our time on PSEUDO power devices such as phones.
So, since you went down this road, I'd rate Windows Phone at 7.5 because it has lots of useful features and integration that save me time. You prove nothing by assigning a low rating based on your individual opinion, especially because the very premise of your individual opinion -- that Windows Phone cannot be unlocked and customized -- is false to begin with.
20. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)
I also build my own PCs and not only mine
but I like to have freedom and everything in my way so congrats for your statement.
21. snowgator (Posts: 3187; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Okay, Gator to the rescue:
WP- As MS rebrands itself, tries to find an audience and tries to get manufacturers and developers onboard I am curious how anyone could have done this launch better, with the possible exception of their promotions in the first year. They have supported their devices, vastly improved their product from Win Mo and their original WP7 releases. They have worked fairly hard to get cross-platform support (a huge work in progress), apps in place (well over 100,000 by end of Summer, I am sure), and carrier support (okay, they ain't done real well in that one). For an end user, the product is fantastic.
There are some shortfalls: Some of the advantages of Win Mo surprisingly are still MIA. Bing services are good, but do seem to come up short to Google services. Hardware options such as physical keyboards, different style body types and support from case and holster manufacturers are near non-existent. And the tile/list screen tend to get a little hard to navigate when you have a large amount of apps/shortcuts/tools.
I am a very satisfied, every day WP user. As such, I give it a solid 8.0 on the "remixfa scale".
Android- ICS is an easy to use, polished, and fun system. Accepting that 1) most users do not root, mess with, or change a whole bunch about their phone and that 2) we accept UI's will add some layers of steps to it, I give it a solid 9, willing to go .5 up or down depending on the UI experiences.
On Gingerbread- Android is fairly uniformed, but the grid lists are still tedious and the UI's from most manufacturers really made devices drrrraaaag...... Especially those from HTC, LG, and Sony Eriksson. I will give a solid 8.0 on most sets, 8.5 on devices that got it right (like GS2 and non-Motoblur offerings.)
iOS- Hey, it is what it is. You download those things from the App Store to make it yours, and you take advantage of the "iTunes" integration. I am not super-impressed with the tools involved (Heaven help you if you need spell check, Siri is so overrated) and there are so many other phones with cameras just as good. And, really, people have NO choices as to what type of body style they get. But it is supported, and it is mostly lag free. I give it a 7.5. You really get the ecosystem with iOS, not so much else.
BB07? Hard to use, dull, unimaginative, and spotty support. If you are in need of security, it is STILL light years ahead, and the hardware is mostly good. It lags much less on this Gen of devices than last. I am done giving them an edge with BBM. All other OS's are on par with it, a d work across all other messaging. 4.5 on the "remixfa scale".
No experience with Symbian. I will give it a 7.0 simply because it is a cool name and I like hepresearch.
10. PhansMuneeb (Posts: 345; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)
Well done PA, great reviews and yes the lowest price for xbox live games has been reduced to $1.
Waiting for wp8.........!
12. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
I would give it 6.5/10. And this is one of the reason we should wait for the 3rd major version of windows phone which is Apollo - Windows Phone 8. However, not a bad OS for a second major version.
22. snowgator (Posts: 3187; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
M.H.- I want to thank you. A very honest three-part series as seen from a man who preferred his Android experience (and probably bumped right back to his Google powered cell phone as soon as he could switch his card from the Radar he was using). This could have very easily been a hatchet job. Instead, you laid out what a satisfied Android user could expect from Windows Phone right now.
WP has a ton to offer- and a lot to improve on. Yes, IE is a limiting experience right now. Yes, you will lose some app selection, especially local apps in your city/ communities, that are exclusively iOS or Android right now. There are some specialized tools that are not available, and the experience is the same from one device to the next.
But WP is doing it right. They are focusing on the social aspects of mobile, making it easy to update in this day and age of media. They are focusing on performance, what their OS does it does seamless. They are focusing on support. And they are long term in the ecosystem- unifying all your user aspects.
Right now, A droid lovers may not have reason to really switch. There are just too few advantages over Google. There a number of things they do a little better, a few things they do as well, and a bunch it is still lacking. But, anyone not happy with Android, iOS, or BBOS should consider it. It is a fantastic experience.
23. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2649; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I really liked my time with WP7, and I would certainly recommend the system to others. In a lot of ways, I like it better than iOS, even though it lacks the maturity or the app ecosystem. I'm definitely interested in revisiting the platform after the WP8 update and the hardware bump.
That said, I am definitely itching to get back to Android. Although, I will definitely miss the People app from WP7. I've been away from Android for a month, but I'll assume that the ICS People app still doesn't actually get any info from 3rd party services.
30. samiazza (Posts: 6; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Unfortunately yes, ICS people app still missing that feature
28. robinhood9421 (Posts: 3; Member since: 25 May 2012)
need a bit help.how many apps and GAMES are actually free in the market place and xbox live?i am thinkin of buyin lumia 710.are there any cons???????