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Survey shows battery life to be the single main gripe of today's mobile phone user

0. phoneArena 28 Nov 2013, 06:20 posted on

A survey among 3500 phone users in US, UK, Germany and UAE showed that it's not processor speeds and screen quality that are the major concerns of the typical user, although we tech blogs often pay the utmost attention to those, nor are the camera capabilities...

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posted on 28 Nov 2013, 06:31 11

1. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5577; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Speaking of battery life, the battery life on my Xperia Z sucks. My next phone must have a good battery life.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 06:44

4. Nematc (Posts: 28; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


Same here with a Galaxy Note (1) . I am not only planned for a good battery life phone but also recommending friends and relatives to consider battery life as the first priority to purchase a new smart phone.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:04

7. eisenbricher (Posts: 971; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Slightly less than a day for my Indian branded 2000mAh phablet. Well I keep an additional battery just in case.. Will probably go for Nokia 1320 when they launch it. I wonder how long a 3400 mAh cell will last!

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:28 2

9. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5577; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Good for you! I think the 3400 mAh on the Lumia 1320 will last long because it doesn't have beastly specs. By the way, is your Indian phablet called Micromax Canvas Doodle?

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:26 1

23. tiberium3091 (Posts: 2; Member since: 22 Nov 2013)


Hmm... My ZL easily lasts through a day. or at least till 6-7PM with very heavy usage. Try using your PC to charge it fully. I heard it helps with Li-ion battery's as they like slow charging.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:43 1

24. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5577; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Thanks for the suggestion! I will try it.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:59

26. Finalflash (Posts: 1799; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Just buy a droid max version, they will literally last days and they are pretty much on point now software and hardware wise. Only problem is verizon seems to be hordeing them.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:15

28. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5577; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


I know, but I'm not from the US so I can't buy a Droid Max.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 14:31 1

54. Ashoaib (Posts: 2283; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


In this case Note 3 is the best option bcoz there gonna be 6500mah third party bettery available soon. Though it will add some weight and thickness but still worth lasting 4 days of charging

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 20:31

64. rpm048 (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)


same i have xperia z heavy usage.. it will last through out the day. Root your phone and download greenify.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 06:36 2

2. tiara6918 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Manufacturers should definitely focus on battery life on their next phones, I don't care how thick it's gonna be. I always charge my phone 3-4 times a day and it takes too long to wait for it to fully charge

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:57 2

18. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Then an iPhone would be the perfect fit for you.

Its battery duration comes from brutal efficiency with relatively small capacity. (less than 1600)

And small capacity means quick charge.

Most people seem to ignore this factor though.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:02 2

27. Finalflash (Posts: 1799; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Yea, and most reviews do too since they show the iPhone is literally the same as every other phone. Grab a droid max version if you want a decent phone with a long battery life. Otherwise you could take the iPhone route but then what is the point if you sacrifice screen and function for mediocre battery life still (might as well get another feature phone).

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:45

33. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Small screen is a design decision. A variation would be very nice though.

But the true reason behind Android's bigger screen/battery is that no OEM(even Sammy) can go toe-to-toe with iPhone in the same league. They are currently all avoiding competing Apple directly.

We gonna see how Apple devastates Android's fragile dominance with the upcoming iPhone6 with bigger screen while the transition to 64-bit renders Android extremely vulnerable.

HTC will collapse, Sony may abandon the business, Motorola/LG will have hard time surviving the changes, Sammy will be unable to charge any premium for Galaxy S6.....

That kinda sucks. Apple is truly horrifying.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 10:44

35. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8665; Member since: 14 May 2012)


You're so confident into believing your own lies its really sad actually.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:00

38. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


What are my lies?

http://www.realworldtech.com/arm64/2/

States change requires exception level handling which consumes lots of cycles and power on 64-bit ARM.

And Android needs lots of it.

64-bit is a dead end for Android.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:47

44. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8665; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Google will shine in 2014. That's all I'm going to say.

"iPhone 6 will devastate Android." That's been said for every iPhone launch since the 4S, in case you didn't know.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 12:19 1

47. tedkord (Posts: 4942; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The actual true reason is that Samsung predicted correctly that the market would want bigger screens on media devices, while Apple got caught napping. But please, continue to delude yourself.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 14:01

53. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8665; Member since: 14 May 2012)


He's only believing what he wants to believe. Who takes this guy seriously?

+1 ted.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 14:37

55. Finalflash (Posts: 1799; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Man, Apple is scary, in that they have crazy people like you as their primary zealots. I don't even know if you yourself believe half the crap you say or maybe you dug the whole too deep and have choice but to keep digging.

But still, everyone finds a way because that is how humanity works. I don't care if we get 64 bit in 2 years, it hasn't done crap for Apple (beyond what you delude yourself into believing). The transition will happen because a lot of talented people work at google and no matter how you spin that crap, they'll find a way.

Finally, next year Apple will once again disappoint because that is all they have done and will do. You will be one of those that defend their BS and tell us about the year AFTER when Apple will make a comeback (and so on). Watch Apple make another amazing buggy and retarded transition into a 6 inch space. Also, no one scared of Apple in any space, they just don't want to compete so heavily in the niche 2 inch screen space. Yet now that they have entrenched the top end, they are coming for Apple's main ground (but not that close, they're still going for 4.3 and higher space, you can have tiny screen land still).

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 20:34

65. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


People can bash Apple as much as they want.

Apple can afford keeping its own pace.

3G -> 3GS : ARMv7 (Cortex)
->4 : new design, higher resolution
->4S : dual core, Siri
->5 : higher resolution, 16:9 screen ratio, new design
->5s : ARMv8, TouchID
->6 : ????

It's not hard to recognize the consistency and pattern :
Higher resolution + new form factor.

Apple has been consistently preparing to launch a major invasion. Even the 5c indicates there will be two new models. One in current size and the other one in a new, aggressive form factor.

And Android is standing there naked with nothing really new to offer, depleted, exhausted.

Ring the bell?

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:17

30. JC557 (Posts: 1137; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


The nice thing about the iPhone lineup is that they have better fitting battery cases that aren't too bulky compared to those made for other phones (if they are made at all).

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 16:48

58. adk199 (Posts: 23; Member since: 04 Oct 2012)


My LG G2 charges from 5% to full in 75 minutes and last 24-48 hours minimum depending on my activity. If i feel i'm running low one day it's easy to change a setting and it will last for quite a while more. It barely uses power when it's not used. Key is Qualcomm's work with the Snapdragon 800 processor and LG's work with the battery. Apple isn't close in any aspect.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 06:37 2

3. jian9007 (Posts: 20; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


It's a big concern of mine, and was a deciding factor on my getting the Note 3 instead of the Nexus 5. Larger capacity battery that can also be swapped out for an even larger one if desired. 13 and a half hours today of moderate use with lots of screen time and still have 73% left. Definitely important. It puzzles me that so many OEM's want to update everything but put small batteries in their flagship phones.

Note 3 and LG G2 (albeit with a .5" smaller screen that uses battery) are the two best flagships out now with battery life in my opinion. And yes, I know the Droid Maxx has great battery life but I'm talking about 1080P screens with quad-core processor high-end specced phones.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:45

14. mr.techdude (Posts: 551; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


You for got the one max where it last slightly more or less then note 3 and more then g2, but spec wise the one max is not up there. If only it had s800 and a 8 oR more megapixels, if only....if.....only....

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:55

17. jan25 (Posts: 405; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)


I definitely agree. It's sad that among many android devices, only a small mount have above average battery life. Unfortunately the size of the Note doesn't make the best of options for many. 3000mAh should be the standard for 2014 flagships.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 06:45 1

5. Slammer (Posts: 1066; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


We've been down this road before. Larger batteries don't equate to longer life. Larger phones need larger batteries. So while batteries maybe getting larger, the devices are so powerful, that it negates the size of the battery. Most consumers are still charging their devices at the same cycle rate as of when the devices were smaller. It's a wash.

So each time we charge our phones, the life of the battery is slowly shortened.

Until a better way to power our phones is found, batteries need to stay accessible to consumers for easy swap. I am on a guest to litter the web of this argument and it is slowly starting to sink in that an expensive device such as a phone shouldn't be rendered useless due to failed or weak battery. It is a matter of time before consumers snap and demand removable batteries again such as my friend with his phone that has a sealed battery.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

John B.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:39 1

41. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


How about just making the phones thicker? I keep seeing all of these new phones that look thinner than a supermodel after a crash diet. Add a little thickness, so that my phone isn't down to 60% by the time I get to work using my GPS app.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 06:48

6. jibraihimi (Posts: 695; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


Lenovo P780 with 4000MAh battery is one of the best phone out there in battery enduarance, very good backup even after heavy usage it needs to be charged once in two days, and with moderate usage it can go on for about more than three days........and even with such a huge battery it's not so much thick, other manufacturers should surely try to include atleast 3000Mah battery in their phones.........

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:11 1

8. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2693; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Yes, battery is important these days.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:29 3

10. GeekMovement (Posts: 1505; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)


YES, battery life is what all phone manufacturers should focus on a bit more! I'm not even that impressed with the note II battery life although it seems to do quite well; maybe I'm just a super heavy user (though I don't think I am) or maybe I got a defect (as always?). Anyway, here's to hoping for LONG lasting batteries on future handsets!

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:36 1

11. bucky (Posts: 1504; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Slamming a massive 4000 battery isn't good enough if you ask me. Let's see them come up with a battery that charges quickly and takes up little space and lasts a few dayd

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:41 1

42. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


I'd settle for a battery that takes up more space and lasts a few days.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 15:36

56. bucky (Posts: 1504; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Preference I guess. I don't like the gigantic phones released nowadays. A bigger battery just makes it even bigger.

A friend has the s4 with that extended battery case and it looks silly

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 17:41

61. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


I personally don't care about how big it looks. I find it rather annoying to have to always charge my phone in the middle of the day. I'd rather not worry about where and when I can charge my phone. Adding several millimeters doesn't bother me if it means I don't have to charge it except overnight.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 15:55

57. DnB925Art (Posts: 293; Member since: 23 May 2013)


I use a 2100 mAh charger (from my old HP Touchpad) and it it charges my Note 2 with it's 3100 mAh batter more than twice as fast as the OEM Samsung charger that came with it.

posted on 29 Nov 2013, 03:21

67. WindowsiDroid (Posts: 110; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)


Using Lenovo P780 here! This phone have 4000 mAh that lasts within 2-3 for heavy gaming and 3-5 days for texting or calling.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:39

12. anirudhshirsat97 (Posts: 397; Member since: 24 May 2011)


Battery life is the most important aspect for me. But great battery without good performance is useless. Currently only the Note 3 marks all the correct points for me. Waiting for s5

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:40

13. lallolu (Posts: 237; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)


This is one reason Lg G2 will do well. I wish they included microsd slot. They must have lost a chunk of buyers by removing it.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:50

16. anirudhshirsat97 (Posts: 397; Member since: 24 May 2011)


Yup. Like me. I love the phone. The lack of micro sd card is the one major reason I'm not buying it. Rather wait for S 5.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 07:49

15. kanagadeepan (Posts: 685; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Not a big problem for me as I have used RazrMAXX, using RazrMaxx_HD now and looking for DroidMAXX... The mobile phone with the worst battery life ever (I have used) is Note2, which is considered having decent battery comparing other non-moto phones...

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:07

19. RGreen (Posts: 48; Member since: 06 Jul 2012)


got to love it

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:07 1

20. remtothemax (Posts: 235; Member since: 02 May 2012)


this. i've been saying this for years. but instead of battery life all the companies keep talking about massive screens, 4k resolution, and eight core processors. it is just ridiculous.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:10 5

21. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 652; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


Now this is a great article.. Well done PA..
Websites are filled with comparisons of specs, benchmarks, display, plastic or aluminium, cheap or premium... All nonsense...
As a very normal user I can say that my phone should have the following in that order:-
1. Better battery life (atleast 2.5 days-coz sometimes travelling becomes frustrating. I know battery technology is not catching up, but Motorola is trying)
2. Bigger display- 720p is good enough. Remember, iPhone doesnt even have 720p. (above 4.5' till 6' maximum)
3. Android OS for productivity/freedom.
4. Price- ($250-$450)
5. Dual core processor with 2GB RAM good enough for everything. Dont need to have quad/octa core with 3GB RAM or more.(iPhone, Moto G, Moto x, Droid Maxxx/Ultra are examples of efficient devices with better battery life).
6. A very good camera 8MP/13MP good enough. No need for 20MP or 41MP. (iphone/Note3/LG G2/Lumia 920 are examples).
7. More Storage. Even better if expansion with microSD.
Other than this I dont desire killer hardware which shall never be used.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 10:49

36. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


You have fully valid points(except for #3). But that's exactly the problem all Android OEMs are facing.
GS1 -> GS2 : A HUGE leap forward
->GS3 : Not bad
->GS4 : hmmmmm
->GS5 : WTF???

Normal people don't need any more performance than probably GS3, and 720p is really good enough.

The whole smartphone business already entered the stagnation zone, and Samsung and Apple are the only ones who made money so far.

Android OEMs have hardly any means left distinguishing their new flagships from the predecessors significantly while Apple has done so extremely well even without 720p and big screen. That's the most horrifying thing!

It's truly amazing to see a tech company keeping its own pace against all "trends" people are tired of by now :
With 5/5s, Apple changed screen ratio, completed transition to 64-bit. Everything is prepared for going rampage that will rain havoc on Android where it's most vulnerable due to the transition to 64-bit.

You may ask by now what's so great about 64-bit when performance doesn't matter that much anymore. It's the battery life.
64-bit ARM is much more power efficient than 32-bit, provided everything runs in 64-bit which Android can't quite accomplish due to the heavy fragmentation.

PS : I don't agree with you on Android being a preferable OS due to its resource inefficiency and security holes.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 12:23 3

49. tedkord (Posts: 4942; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Every leap you listed is much more than the typical iPhone Xs iteration.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:11

22. BRYLYNT (Posts: 28; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)


buy a G2. problem solved.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 08:55

25. E.S.1 (Posts: 291; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


And that's exactly what I did. The battery lasts 2 days easy with moderate to heavy use.
And it was a main factor when I was looking for a new phone.
I'm not sure if I would ever go back to Samsung if LG continues with phones like G2.
SD card is not important to me.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:16

29. JC557 (Posts: 1137; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


I stopped having that complaint after buying the Droid Razr M. It consistently lasts close to 36 hours with moderately heavy usage (with 2 - 2.5 hr screen on) in a mix of wi-fi and LTE. I would love to get a Droid MAXX but the Moto X is also good with battery life despite the 2200mAH rating.

Efficient hardware and software can be somewhat easier to do than creating new battery tech that may not play well in real world testing or non-viable financially.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:41 2

31. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


Yet manufacturers continue to skimp on battery life by making thinner and thinner phones. I want a phone where it can last 10 hours with my GPS app running the whole time.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:49

34. JC557 (Posts: 1137; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Also, by making them thinner they skimp out on other hardware or make an unwanted bulge ruining the form. It also hurts ergonomics of gripping/ holding the phone. Still, can't deny the market for wanting a phone to fit in their useless hipster pants.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:44

43. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


If the phone bulges somewhere, make the rest of the phone bulge just as much by putting a bigger battery in it. That should smooth out the bumps and make the phone last longer after being fully charged.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 12:36

50. tedkord (Posts: 4942; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Moto seem to be the only ones who get this.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 09:42

32. hellonerds (Posts: 264; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


i can make all day on my rooted debloated note 3 t-mo on att :)
before note 3 came out i was expecting a 3800+mah battery in it but im good for my use...

my GS3 cant make it a full day of use had to get spare batteries but i didnt like to have to keep swapping batteries

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:00

37. 1701nino (unregistered)


My nexus 4 has dissapointing battery life,a day at most i was expecting more out of this phone with 768p display and 2100 mh battery.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:15

39. riachu81 (Posts: 6; Member since: 30 Nov 2012)


I always choose a phone that has the ability to change the battery.
I had a Samsung s3, s4 Mini and now using a Sony Zr. I don't have to worry about battery life because when it's empty, I just open the back and pop in a fresh battery :-)

I always carry a spare and can then use my phone to the max of it's capabilities throughout the day. Like having a Live Wallpaper and having the brightness high.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:18

40. E.S.1 (Posts: 291; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


I don't think anyone should carry a spare battery for their cell phone. After all its' just a cell phone.
It's almost 2014 and most phones should be able to go at least 24 hours on a single charge.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:47

45. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


My phone won't last 24 hours on a single charge. Using GPS for an hour and a half will drain most of the battery and leave very little for everything else I need it for. I need to charge my phone twice a day.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 11:53

46. E.S.1 (Posts: 291; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


I'm sorry to hear that. What phone do you have?

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 17:44

62. Stuntman (Posts: 733; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


SGS3. I have the GPS running whenever I am driving in addition to playing music via BT. My daily commute round trip can be up to an hour and a half. More if traffic is bad and it seems to have gotten a lot worse in the past year.

I often top up my phone at work before I go home as well as charging over night. On the weekends, I use my car charger when I drive to ensure I have enough power to last a day.

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