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Survey: More Android users switching to the Apple iPhone than vice versa

0. phoneArena 19 Aug 2013, 13:01 posted on

According to a survey conducted by Consumer Intelligence Research Partners, 20% of Apple's customers over the last year came from an Android phone; at the same time, only 7% of Samsung's customers over the last year were switching from an iPhone. Meanwhile, from July 2012 to June 2013, 42% of Apple iPhone buyers were merely upgrading from another iPhone model...

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posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:07 21

1. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Lol, very interesting. Can't wait to see the diehard Android/Samsung fans rationalize this one.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:21 28

6. lyndon420 (Posts: 4729; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Can't fix stupid.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:22 10

7. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Well, this is mainly Samsung vs iPhone. Also, small sample size. Also, people buying new phones in the past twelve months are upgrading from devices circa 2011 at the latest. We're just now getting to upgrade eligibility for Galaxy S2 owners.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:26 12

8. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


500 polled is the rationalization. Or put it this way, I just asked 5 friends who have iPhones and 3 were getting a Android next, that is a 60% iPhone to Android conversion rate! :/ to polls

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:33 8

10. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


... and even worse are polls designed to make Apple not look they are a sinking ship. Think about it, the only ones making up this sensational Apple articles and polls and look at us, we still 'got it' are apple media iFans scared that there precious little apple company might be headed for a similar fate that Microsoft has felt when Gates left. Jobs did matter, Cook is no Jobs. Oh really he is, so so Steve wasn't something extra special? He was and Cook and Balmer aren't...

Sorry, Gates and Jobs are not replaceable by the next best guys, those guys are legends, geniuses and one-of-a-kinders, they simply cannot be replaced. Apple will share a similar fate to MS, that fate is mediocrity.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:42 12

13. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Android has around 80% world market share, only makes sense it would slightly favor more going in one direction than another.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:45 12

14. quadrazeus (Posts: 359; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Cry, fandroid. CRY! xD

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:46 7

15. maysider (Posts: 38; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)


1) only a poor mind could make such a poor article from such a poor survey
2) only a poor mind can take it seriously
3) you have to compare the same price levels and don't compare all the Android low-ends with overpriced iPhone
4) just compare the same price level Androids and you will recognize how smarter are the android users who just don't accept what Apple allows to their iPeople
5) I bet that poor minded users bought low-end Android, didn't have a good experience, shifted to iPhone= Android doesn't need such the poor minds, so it's good for everyone :)

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:48 12

17. bigstrudel (Posts: 521; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


There it is. They didn't even try.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 13:59 1

24. yasirbaqar (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Nov 2012)


wow! what a survey, it has opened my eyes.. i should switch to iPhone now.. by realizing the fact the population they have chosen is very large from Billions of People. find below line in above rationalize survey..

"To get these figures, 500 smartphone buyers who had purchased a new phone in the previous 90 days, were surveyed every quarter from July 2012 to June 2013."

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:04 4

25. soshi (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Mar 2012)


yes, and that come from much bigger data compare to 500 people and it is collect for a quarter of year not just one time survey. So reading their analysis further is a waste of time.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:13 3

28. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


I believe this is actually the official methodology: "Four quarterly surveys of smartphone buyers from July 2012 to June 2013. EACH survey consisted of 500 subjects who purchased a mobile phone in the preceding 90 days."

- This would mean that there were a total of 2000 participants.

I don't really take seriously surveys or analyst predictions (I find them more amusing), but in terms of finding the correct sample size, whether its 500 or 2000, I'm sure these trained statisticians know what they're doing. Finding the a proper and random sample size is probably the most fundamental step in statistics.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:14 11

29. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 15404; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Making up excuses are we?

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:21 16

31. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


No need. At least not for this. However, a good excuse is always needed to justify giving you the time needed to type our this message.

How is your bitterness level today, Mxy?

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:28 3

33. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Hmm, so you decide what phone to use based on what everyone else is using? And here I thought you guys were suppose to be smart...

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:31 2

34. wp8nokia (banned) (Posts: 16; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


just watch how Nokia will sneak in , and start getting all those ppl to wp , Google think that by no supporting wp with YouTube witch is the only good app I would use from scroogle is a big deal , lol but guys be smart and think about it , for 1,000,000,000 billion dollars a year I would let any company no to support me lol that's what Microsoft gets from android for copying stuff lol lol that money can be use to create new things like wp no ios copies by millions lol

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:35 6

36. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Sorry dude, I respect most of your comments but I don't think that was a very good defense. What do Galaxy S2 owners have to do with anything? Soon iPhone 4S, HTC, and Motorola smartphone users will be able to upgrade as well. So what?

If you're assuming that Galaxy SII smartphone users are more likely to purchase another Samsung device, you can say the same for iPhone 4S users, which by the way, there are more of. If anything, including smartphone buyers from early 2011 will shift this survey more in Apple's favor, especially with the release of the iPhone 5S + iOS 7

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:42 14

38. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


What I mean is that the state of Android devices two years ago isn't the state of Android devices now. In other words, I am never surprised when a customer decides to try an iPhone after using Android of two or three years ago. I merely don't want anyone using this survey to claim that iOS is better than Android, because people are switching based on their experiences with two and three year old software . I think the landscape will be different in another year or so when Galaxy S3 and other users with smartphones that started out running ICS come up for upgrade.

In other words, given the parameters of the survey, I won't dispute the results. However, I will be the first to call bull on any crowing iPhone user who uses this survey to try to claim IOS is currently superior.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:46 6

40. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


how am i crying lol, i am making fun of all the sad apple zealots that need to try and prove (at every turn) why their platform isn't a sinking ship, Jobs died, the truth will reveal itself (it has already started, AppleLife without Jobs will not be smooth sailing, again just ask Microsoft about life without Gates).

And really, where do you see fandroids saying "we are the best" we rule all" No, they don't, we don't, we don't care. You care, you, apple followers, you!. You guys are why many hate apple. Apple doesn't suck, their fans do

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:53 1

41. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


Snigg... i understand your point bro...

This at no means is saying that the iPhone is better pound for pound.

Its simply stating that the majority of regular consumers who haven't experienced an iPhone now have the ability to after using a 2 to 3 year old android device.

This is still good news for apple. Hopefully they can build a lil steam with the release of these new products. Lord knows apple is heading in the wrong direction lately.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 14:58 1

44. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


Sad day for the appleDOESNT guy... you should post your overhyped video of Steve Jobs and the fall of apple.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 15:03

46. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2167; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


I was a bit wrong about more people getting smarter. :/

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 15:08 5

52. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


love all the personal attacks today. What exactly have i said to piss you zeolots off lol... I usually chime in when the articles are blatantly apple BiOSed. They piss me off. Cause you guys are such crazy iFollowers about Apple and what they offer. Newsflash, they offer the iPhone, nice product, was best in class, now, meh, good but oh so nothing special... oh and iPad? a big iPhone without the phone and a iPod, small version of the iPad.. then there is the upscale macs, which have such a small market share, you can't even see it in this sentence. Look, Apple makes decent products, it's you crazy followers that truly piss many of us off.

I don't talk up Android, I simply don't care. I like it, I may own a windows phone someday. Hell I'd own a mini if it wasn't so over priced with that pathetic 1024 rez display. It's you iFollowers in the comments and the article writers.. Truly pathetic the way you need to pat yourselves on your backs constantly all while the ship is sinking and the Android fans took all the lifeboats...

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 15:34 4

60. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Ok that makes sense. But if we were in 2009/2010 and comparing 2009 iOS (or iPhone OS) vs Android, I think I'd agree more with you but Android 2010 forward was not slacking and many would say that iOS at that point started feeling stale and out of date.

But anyway, I already call BS on any claim of a superior OS. If these surveys and marketshare reports actually reflected the superior OS/company (as opposed to the most popular), then Touchwiz should have long been extinct. But then again that's just my opinion.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 15:59 4

64. Hallucinator (Posts: 387; Member since: 24 May 2010)


With all of your spewing about poor minds, you apparently forgot about poor grammar and sentence structure. I usually don't care, but if you are going to go on a rant about poor minds you might want to consider that.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 16:13 8

67. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


http://blog.laptopmag.com/android-smartphone-sales
More iPhonearena propaganda. It used to bug me before but now its amusing how jealous iPA and the Apple camp has become. Not to long ago Android fans were on the other side of the fence.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 16:58 3

72. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


"small sample size"

Oh please! Sniggly, tell us the truth -- did you ever satisfactorily completed a statistics course in college or graduate school. Do you not understand the Law of Large Numbers, Ordinary Least Squares technique, etc that forms empirical analysis such as statistical inference.

Every major android OEM was introducing various NEW and BETTER devices during this time period (note that Apple was using a new device a year approach) -- that means BOTH Samsung and NON-Samsung android OEMs were giving better, updated products as part of the upgrade cycle (again, Apple users had to wait 1-year for the new device)!!!!

Despite Apple having out-dated spec's (aka older devices), smaller battery, smaller displays and horrible mobile OS, Apple still managed to STEAL android customers when the best effen android handsets were being released on a non-stop basis.

Sniggly, if you want my advice, stop drinking the kool-aid.

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 17:17 3

75. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2236; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


It's funny how you and others liked to use the American Consumer Studies Index award for Samsung to crow (Sample size, 250), but hate this study, which uses twice the respondents. Hypocritical, much?

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 17:37

77. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2285; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


Lol bullshyt!!! Its the other way around...

posted on 19 Aug 2013, 18:12 3

82. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


What kool-aid am I drinking?

Funnily enough, a customer came in who proved my point exactly after I posted my last comment. She had a Sprint GS2 which wasn't nearly as user friendly as modern Android phones, had horrible battery life and glitches out the ass. She wants an iPhone as a result. Those "newer and better" devices were indeed newer and better than the previous generation, but 2011 was still a year of Gingerbread devices and below, which all pale in comparison to even the free phones that are out now.

Anyway, as stated before, my point is that I can easily see a lot of disenchanted former Android owners jumping for iOS because they got phones which either started out awful or didn't age nearly as well as modern Android devices will. The other side of my argument is not to use this survey as "proof" that current Android handsets aren't as good as current iPhones.

But as I learned time and time again with the articles on Motorola's newer phones, you can throw out reasonable points with factual backing until you're blue in the face, and bleating idiots will ignore those points and keep saying what they want to say.

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