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Success! Petition to make unlocking phones legal meets goal

0. phoneArena 21 Feb 2013, 08:54 posted on

With a little over two days to spare, the voice of the people reaches its goal. We have been telling you about a petition started that would force the government to take a look at the law making unlocking carrier-locked phones illegal, and early this morning the petition reached the 100,000 signature mark, which means the White House must respond...

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posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:03 20

1. pankajgupta (Posts: 59; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Cheers to Freedom Movement..!! :)

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 13:52 1

44. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Petition succeeded in the signatures.
Now, to succeed in its goal..

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:04 19

2. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4003; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I think we can do much better than 100,00!!

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 14:34 2

47. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


they should have taken internet pole ..................in that we may set the record of this

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:10 14

3. tedkord (Posts: 12276; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Hot damn. Don't stop pushing it - let's get as many as possible. It's time the carriers and OEMs learned that they don't own the equipment after we buy it. We also need to get the restrictions on tablets removed.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:38 9

10. 14545 (Posts: 1605; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


This is my problem. Unless they carriers are forced to give the equipment away for free, then I don't understand this logic of they "own" the software. They don't own anything. Not to mention, good luck going in and buying an unsubsidized device and getting them to unlock it. They owe you nothing at that point, so they won't do crap for you. It should be illegal to LOCK phones, and other electronic devices. If the carriers don't like it, let them stop selling subsidized devices.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:45 7

15. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


The law says they don't own the software, which is why it is legal to jailbreak/root your device. But, it seems that the theory is that most carrier-locked hardware is purchased on subsidy, so you don't technically own it until you finish paying off the subsidy. Of course, according to the law, you still can't unlock that device even after you finish the subsidy, which is absurd, and why we needed this petition.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:56 3

23. 14545 (Posts: 1605; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Personally, I just wish for a speedy death to the subsidization model. I really see no benefit for it at this point. I mean honestly, if you can't afford a couple hundred for a used smartphone, then you probably don't even need one. As you more than likely can't pay the bill for it either.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 12:21 2

35. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14215; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I could reasonably argue that you own the device once the subsidy is paid off or if you bought it off contract brand new at full retail price.

If you're still in contract and switch phones, then you don't own it technically because you haven't fulfilled your obligation of the contract.

This will only apply to GSM devices mostly since GSM is standard worldwide.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 12:51 3

37. JC557 (Posts: 1575; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


You basically bought a phone but agreed to a contract as well but you still own the phone. You can either break the contract and pay a hefty ETF or ride out the contract which more than covers the price of the phone.

In some countries it's actually illegal to lock the phone. This I can agree with.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:20 3

4. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14215; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I honestly think people are overreacting on this one.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:26 25

6. darkdroid (Posts: 44; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)


Mxyzptlk-trolling people since phonearena .

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 10:17 9

26. Aeires (unregistered)


Phonearena, filling Mxyptlk's need for attention on a regular basis.

If people didn't reply to his comments, he'd stop commenting.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 13:31 2

41. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14215; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Yet you responded? I'm not forcing you to read my comments.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 13:35 5

42. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


A BOT that is fed by Apple :)

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 19:14 1

51. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14215; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I'm a terminator ;)

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 19:24 2

53. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


You are Trollinator. ;)

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:38

11. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Agree with Mxyptik. In many countries, people don't really bother as long as their subscribed to their favored networks. Why do you still need to have an unlocked one when you can get another phone probably for free in the other network if you really need to use the other network..?

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:47 14

16. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


The issue comes in 3 parts: 1) Americans hate being told that they can't do something with a product that they have paid for and own. 2) Americans like fighting for freedom, even if it's the freedom to take your old device to a new carrier. 3) If you can't unlock your device, you can't simply swap the SIM card when traveling, and are forced to use your carrier's absurdly expensive international plans.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 10:08 11

25. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Part 4) What if you wat to sell or give away your phone for someone else who is on the different network.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 13:58

46. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


We can do nothing about them Americans.. haha but on 2) yes, I think one has the right to switch carriers with an off-contract device provided the carrier has to agree to unlock phones on expired contracts; 3) That can be requested from the network before you travel. Weird but my network has cheaper rates for unlimited data when you're on roaming (outside your country).

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 11:28

58. Gdrye (Posts: 110; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)


this comment is the only one that makes any sense, as an At&t employee, unlocking phones does happen when you finish the contract ont he device, or if you pay the full price for the device, i REALLY dont get the guys who buys an iphone for $199 and expect to get it unlocked, what about the $450 that the carrier paid for? The only bad thing about it is that we do run the serial number and if that phone was stolen, lost, or someone got the phone subsidized and never paid the bill, they wont unlock the device.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:50 6

18. greathero1 (Posts: 566; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


Well, if I wanted a Samsung Galaxy Ace or a Huawai Ascend then you probably have a point but when that is not the case, why should it be against the law to unlock what I already have and have paid for outright or through satisfying the TOC of the contract?

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 10:07 4

24. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Why do you still need to have an unlocked one when you can get another phone probably for free in the other network if you really need to use the other network..?

A. No Network Carrier is going to give me a free or anyone else a free Galaxy Note-2 or any other top of the line phone.

In many countries, people don't really bother as long as their subscribed to their favored networks.

A. So if you buy a car or a refrigerator, can they tell you what type of gas to use or what type of foods to put in your items?, we do put a " Down payment" $200 and up on these phones and if we want them unlock, unlock them!.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 10:32 9

28. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)


People like you( i$heep or iFan) . Never understand freedom.

Because you are slave of Apple.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 12:19 3

34. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14215; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Apple doesn't have a gun pointed to my head forcing me to use their products.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 13:54 3

45. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


mxyz what platform would you use if apple didnt exist? now i know thats a hard one for ya because a world without apple is unimaginable right? but seriously what platform would you use?

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 19:14 1

50. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14215; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Android or Windows Phone 8

posted on 22 Feb 2013, 10:32

57. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Technically no they dont have a gun to your head your right but he is talking about how apple brainwashes its customers which is why they have no freedon which is just as hold a gun to your head threw brainwashing.

posted on 21 Feb 2013, 09:22 6

5. aokde (Posts: 186; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)


why not make a petition to lower the votes needed for a petition :D?

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