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Study: Apple and Android to top BlackBerry in the enterprise for the first time ever in 2012

0. phoneArena 27 Nov 2012, 18:41 posted on

Surging sales of the Apple iPhone and Android flavored smartphones, combined with the continued slump at BlackBerry, will lead to both Apple and Android topping Berry's in the enterprise this year, for the first time ever...

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posted on 27 Nov 2012, 18:50 5

1. Leon101 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

Wow thats good apple and android!! BB you need to get your as$ running if you wanna succeed!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 19:25 2

2. phil2n (Posts: 487; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

and maybe next year its WP

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 19:30 2

3. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

I think this is fairly obvious especially for iOS. Many enterprise users are flocking to a more secure platform.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 20:35 6

5. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

but still..BB10 or just the old BlackBerry the "secure-est" of them all!

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 09:33 3

27. hanibal.the.great (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)

old BB...
secure... yes
secure-est... not really. android and iphone is also as secure as old BB (and new BB).

the biggest BB problem were their BIS (blackberry internet service) were not reliable. Sending a BBM message sometimes can have a 4 hour - 12 hour delay or even more.

and their Internet (BIS) is SLOW. SLOOOw compared to the plain vanila internet of Android and iOS.

So, what the meaning of secure, if you can't do browsing and etc on the business oriented phone.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 20:34 3

4. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

you cant deny the fact that BB offers the best way to comute in business... you cant deny that you can type faster on a BlackBerry than on a virtual keyboard...

i dont really get why business people need to shift to iPhone or android in business..since its main core is business not being techy! BlackBerry phones works just the way they are! they work great as you want them to do...

so it will be really great if BB10 will be ship now or january 30, 2013 should arrive now! and BB10 wil lbe great for both people and enterprise! especially if people now wants virtual keyboard, BB10 has the best one! easy and efficient!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 20:45 5

7. fragmentedboy (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)

Hi MC1123,

Because not all the corporate business need what BB offer.

1. secure push email,
Android and iOS do just as good as BB with POP3/IMAP secure port.
2. BBM
What's app, Skype, and other were as good as BBM.
3. hardware Keyboard?
Android also have hardware keyboard.

BB doesn't really have ADVANTAGE over Android/iOS. BB were even more unstable, crash a lot, and the BIS were also have lots of problem.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 20:55

8. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

but BB give the most secure of them all.. rememer that android sometimes leak your info...

yeah... BBM has some good alternatives in other platform but still works a good as it is!

and BB's keyboard are far way more superior than what android has to offer!

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 22:27 4

11. BBisblueberry (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)

What you said is definitely a FUD.
If you don't sideload apps, your android won't got a virus.

And android doesn't sometimes leak your info. unless you sideload apps, and you install mallware.

If a corporation really want to use android, they could just pick at least ANY android phone with 4.0 and higher OS. and it would be as secure as iOS and BB.

BBM is THE WORST chatting platform. It lag, it lag, it lag. Furthermore, it would require a BB PIN, that only a BB owner would have.

On the other hand, whatsapp is a real champion. When the first time I install what's app on my (ex) BB, I was surprised that I have MORE friend in what's app than in BBM. and since then, I throw away my BB and convert into Android.

BB keyboard is not the best. It's tiny, it's hard to use. 4.5"+ - 5" phone with touch screen is the best.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 00:43 1

13. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

it depends on people's referrence... so if you hate BB then let it be... all i want for you people is to give them a chance! they are making big effort ever, not even nokia is doing the same thing!

so if you hate BB or any RIM related (BBM works ok for me, so is whatsapp) then let it be, but if you just want to say smething terrible to RIM/BB better keep it to yourself...

actually, i prefer the BBM pin more coz its secured!

so you mean people can only use android with 4.0 up to be secured? lol... BB was and is secured yesterday, today and tomorrow!

lol to that 4.5" to 5" i want a regular phone! i dont want a small tablet that is stupid looking when im having calls and will look rediculous on my pocket! BB's keys are perfect! even the small BB (the 8250) ha perfect keys, i got big hands and got no problem with it! and that just prove that android need to be on that size so that everyone can type without typing it wrong.. lol to that!! im perfectly ok with my BB!

again..its about your own preference..so if you hate BB... ok then, but dont post hateful message coz its really pathetic! and i dont care actually! smart people knows what to act!

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 06:08 3

19. HoplessBB (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)

Why You were angry when someone pointing out that BB is not cut it any more.

read this:

NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) think that BB is not reliable.

and why BB pin is more secured? Do you have technical knowledge you're willing to share? Because I think BB pin is for idiot

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 09:25 2

26. hanibal.the.great (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)

I really don't understand if someone like BBM better than the open platform like YM, Google Chat, What's app, Skype, etc.

BBM is bad. It's only allowing user among BB user talk. It might good when BB start it, but I think it couldn't be count as the positive factor anymore since there were more what's app, YM, Google Chat, skype user out there.

(According to RIM, there were OONNLLYY 80 million BBM user)

Just like BB,
6.0 is better and more secure than 5.0
7.0 is better and more secure than 6.0
7,1 is better and more secure than 7.0

Android is also the same...
using the latest version possible means more secure.
So, what's BBisblueberry said is right.
If corporate want to use Android, buy the android version as new as they can, and don't side load.

and, btw.
I'm asian with small hand,
but i don't feel the 5.0" phone awkward.
If you walk around in HK, you'll notice that we (small asian) use big phone more than Caucasian.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 04:08 4

15. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

so you are saying that android is vulnerable to data leakage? duh, teach yourself,

also, no one is hating, it's a fact that bb has started to being dumped by enterprise users, the pentagon doesn't use bb anymore coz bb isn't efficient, read the news if you havent read it yet,

can you please define what a "hating" is ? because everyone has their own thing of what a hating is, so that i can respond to you in a proper way

you just wont stop defending bb will you?

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 05:46

17. slaggyb (Posts: 214; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

All Of A Sudden Nicholas Oliver Matures Overnight.
Lord Have Mercy His Now reasoning Like A Normal Adult..

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 21:56

9. soshi (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Mar 2012)

These days I realize messenger application in android so diverse with my friend install different app so I must use it too. These chat app like whatsapp, kakao, line, viber, Skype need ability to contact each other. Yahoo is the most universal but people move to bbm but then bbm will be replaced soon.

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 22:22 4

10. BBisblueberry (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)

Google Chat is the most standard
Every Google Android phone have a Google Chat account.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 04:18

16. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

in my country (indonesia), there are literally millions of people who are using BBM, bbm is really common here, if you walked in the street or even at the kindergarten, you would see a huge number of bb, coz even a 2 years old toodler has a bb,

however, the main reason why people are buying bb is not because the phone itself, it is because dat bbm thing, let me make this clear, if you didn't use bb in my country, it would be cumbersome and hard for you coz it is the simplest and fastest way to contact people, there are no "i'll call you later" "i'll text you later" there is only one which is "i'll bbm you later"

the locals here thought that bb is a good phone, they consider bb as "state of the art" phone, until they use an android

people would make fun of you if you didn't have a bb, like "hey may i have your bb pin? oh sorry, i forgot that you don't have a bb" and so on...

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 06:10 1

20. HoplessBB (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)


I don't think BB is that popular anymore in Indonesia. I see that even para pembokat yang jemput anak were using a touch phone now.

BB and their small QWERTY pads is history.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 08:19 1

24. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

a scavenger near my house own bb bold 9900

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 09:22 1

25. hanibal.the.great (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)

That doesn't mean everyone use BB.

That's mean that BB used to be great, and now everyone throwing it away, thus, the scavenger owned it.

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 04:07 1

14. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

Don't reply to this person, He is an android / iphone hater, so no matter what you say to him, he will still defend bb, he has admitted that he is indeed a bb fanboy,

8520 has a perfect keyboard ? LOLLL, i personally used 8520 for dat bbm thing coz i live in bb nation, the keyboard sucks, really sucks, it makes a sound when you push it like "tek tek tek tek tek" as a matter of fact, one of my friend kicked me out of his room at night while sleeping coz that sound annoyed my friend,

just settle for software keyboard, especially if u use swype keyboard like android 4.2

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 05:49

18. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

lol... i have android and i'll choose the keys on 8520 than the virtual...

and i dont hate iPhone or android... i love nexus and only nexus... i hate the customize one coz it ruin the so called android experience...

and yes, they swype keyboard is useful but i dont want to pay to make it efficient! and im not always on data coz im a prepaid user! and i dont always speak english or writing the whole word while typing...

what will i expect? Nikolas.Oliver the ultimate BB hater!

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 06:12 3

21. HoplessBB (Posts: 3; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)

Nicholas is not BB hater.
He just telling the truth.
Hard to swallow truth, but real truth

BB is deadth
read the last kantar report
even in BB strong area like brazil, spain , BB is collapsing

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 08:18 3

23. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

Im telling all of you the truth, though it's kinda sarcastic once in a while

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 19:38

29. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

lol... he is a hater and forever will be!!!

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 08:17 3

22. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

i use a galaxy nexus and blackberry curve 8520, after using the nexus i don't wanna use the 8520 anymore because the keyboard makes my thumb hurt, that being said, im still using it because dat bbm, if bbm didn't exist i would throw dat phone to the trash can,

lol you don't need to have a data in order to use swype keyboard on android 4.2 jelly bean, i personally used it and i don't have any problem whatsoever when i don't have the data connection

I'm not a hater but im telling you the truth, you can't accept the fact that bb is dying can you ?

posted on 28 Nov 2012, 19:35

28. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

lol...better use 9900! coz you're comparing a low end to flagship nexus!!! pathetic excuse! of course nexus will be better in all areas! but use high end berry(BB10) and that nexus then you can compare..and you can start blabbering again!

posted on 29 Nov 2012, 02:53

30. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

i compared my gnex with my friend's 9900, the 9900 is no match for gnex, when i tested the browser by opening phonearena, my gnex was like 15 seconds faster, also my friend's bold 9900 takes 2 minutes to boot up whereas my gnex only needs 28 seconds to bootup!!

lol...i will never buy 9900, never, even if someone gave it to me i would sell it,

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 20:39 5

6. fragmentedboy (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)

big LOL to IDC
fragmentation lead to insecure Android???
what the f*** is that about

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 22:29 4

12. BBisblueberry (Posts: 3; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)

somehow according to IDC (or iDC) having a different version of OS and screen size lead to insecurity.

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