Studio prints a 46" canvas from an HTC One photo, rendering the megapixel war moot
0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2013, 06:38 posted on
HTC One bucked the trend with the UltraPixel camera, which technically is just 4MP, but the pixels themselves are much larger, capturing more light in than the tinier dots that are in higher-res phone cameras, and that's a pretty important part of the equation. The upside of large resolutions, though, is said to be the ability to print the pictures huge...
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1. Smart (Posts: 76; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
That is one cool picture from one cool phone......
13. sharks (Posts: 163; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
Too many people think that having more MP is always better, but the HTC One is clearly a product very well designed with incredible technology in its 4MP camera! This article adds even more weight behind the One and why you need to get it. It's simply the best smartphone of 2013.
28. Retro-touch (Posts: 239; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
I don't believe marketing lies when people have thoroughly tested the pics it produces and I can clearly see through evidence that its not as good as they'd like me to believe
Check that source and compare the photos, seeing is believing
37. Jack58221 (Posts: 120; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)
as they said in closing " the HTC One was not expected to win" and they made sure of that. first group of pics were zoomed way in to the point of being able to count pixels in the One's pics. if you zoomed in on the gs4 you would be able to see inconsistencies in their pixels to. HDR pictures have to go to the One. all the others were even IMO.
So I will ignore the "bias opinions and twisted views" of gsmarena and go with the "marketing lies".
51. smutty.puppet (Posts: 24; Member since: 24 Apr 2013)
so you dident know that gsmarena means samarena?!! realy?
34. lhtbinh1909 (Posts: 48; Member since: 02 Apr 2013)
you should read the real source at AndroidCentral's forum, the owner did some photoshop before printed it
44. lallolu (Posts: 209; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
You are soo right. Whatever HTC or fanboys may say, 4MP is little. 8MP would have cut it.
3. mr.techdude (Posts: 491; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
The HTC one is arguably the best smartphone of 2013 and its camera is damn good, I have had a play around with it from my mates and its spectacular, while on the other hand the galaxy s4 is a great smartphone but didn't give me the wow factor like the HTC one.
This is how consumers and experts see the galaxy line:
Galaxy s= alright to
Galaxy s2= amazing to
Galaxy s3= Samsung FTW to
galaxy s4= will let it pass.
My opinion and many consumers and techsperts
19. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1927; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
If most consumers have decided they "will let it (S4) pass", then why is it the fastest selling model yet? 10 million sold in a month. It took the S3 50 days to reach that mark. Clearly, your synopsis is incorrect.
23. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
But that's the same logic Apple uses. The iPhone 4S was a disappointment, eh? How many dozens of millions did it sell?
That didn't make it the best phone though, just the best marketed.
26. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1927; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Clearly, the best phone will almost be a matter of opinion. I happen to think the S4 is better than the One & not just simply because it sells better. And while I'm not an Apple fan, clearly the 4S was not a disappointment to all the people that bought it & still buy it today. But anyway, we're off topic, so I'll drop it, but we're all entitled to opinions. That's why freedom is so great.
27. mr.techdude (Posts: 491; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Thank you roldefol for elaborating as what I said, g2a5b0e I never said the s4 was terrible its just like how apple had there iphones such as 3gs to 4 was a massive leap killing off competition then the 4s came with siri was like great but the 5 was eeehhh, how much did the iPhone 5 sell? Truck loads. And I'm not talking about consumers who get brainwashed and don't know what the hell the specs is on a particular smartphone as long as there is apple or Samsung even HTC logo on it its the best, no not them. Real consumers who know what there expecting from a smartphone and not concentrating on the brand itself.
4. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I've always found the megapixel war pointless. The 5 MP unit in the iPhone 4 was routinely trouncing 8 MP cameras in numerous Android phones that cheaped out on sensor quality in favor of quantity. Now we see clearly that it's not the size of your megapixels, it's how you use them.
4 MP Ultrapixel, 8.7 MP Pureview, 13 MP Galaxy. All highly capable. The numbers war is over, the quality war rages on.
8. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Edited. :] I fully expect Samsung to push it to 16 in the S5, as they are in the S4 Zoom. Maybe it's the right move for them, but I prefer the work HTC and Nokia are doing.
9. darkskoliro (Posts: 885; Member since: 07 May 2012)
I found the megapixel war useless since the introduction of those cybershot cameras by sony quite a few years ago. It was 16mp but the image quality make me puke, plus in those days dual cores were JUST released, plus there were no ssds so opening those photos took forever...and heaps of space on the measly 512mb card
16. tiara6918 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
The old cybershot models were even better, sure the new ones have higher megapixels but the results were terrible and couldn't even compare to the earlier models. I agree with you
20. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
My dad upgraded from a perfectly good 6 MP Nikon to a 12 MP Canon Powershot. I could not understand this. All it meant for him (as a family photographer who prints nothing larger than an 8x10) was bigger files, but he was sold on the higher megapixel count.
24. PAPINYC (limited) (Posts: 2044; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Obviously, he's not too bright.
30. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
He bought two Samsung Brightsides (PA rated 2 out of 10). Nuff said. Bright guy, but useless when it comes to tech. God help me if he gets sold a smartphone.
32. PAPINYC (limited) (Posts: 2044; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
OMG, you have my sympathy!!!
I was going to switch my second line to voice only (instead of just disconnecting it) just last month for my Mom. A Verizon Customer Service rep' emailed me the two models with touch displays (because that's what she wants is a touch display - her GS2 got fried by a defective wall outlet) but, when I saw the specs (and PA rating) on that Brightside I went ahead with the disconnect order.
They should rename the Brightside "The Dumside"!!
35. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I could forgive the unresponsive touchscreen. I could even forgive the horrible pixelation. But it doesn't even have decent audio quality! Calls sound very muffled on my end. It's like they made a nice keyboard and then just layered all their worst reject parts on top of it. Thanks Samsung!
39. PAPINYC (limited) (Posts: 2044; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Dude, based on the specs alone, I completely dismissed it; I got my Mom a DROID 3 ($80 bucks on CL) that I'm hacking to T-Mo (since her line is active until Feb '14 and she only pays $5 for the line and $15 for International Calling). She just wants a decent size screen and likes the simplicity of Android with Direct Dial widgets and the large number dial pad - she's 72 (and, she HATED the LG GS70 flip phone my sister got her - HATED IT!!)
29. PAPINYC (limited) (Posts: 2044; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
To an extent I agree with you but, must also affirm the fact that size does matter because there's no way that 8 (or 4) can give me the same satisfaction as a whopping 13. But just to play devil's advocate, just yesterday I was with a friend here in New York City at a local Radio Shack where she was upgrading from an EVO to a Galaxy Note 2; I know it's hard to believe I have friends on Sprint. Never mind she gets crappy data connections but, that besides the point and I apologize for my digression. Anywhoot, she asked the perplexing question:
well doesn't the Note 2 also have an 8MP camera just like the EVO?? (Her, debate was Galaxy Note 2 over Galaxy S 4 -why? I explained to her (in layman's terms), yes but the Galaxy Note 2's has a much better sensor than the EVO and that there really is no comparison - Note 2 is way superior. As far as Galaxy S4 vs Note 2, yes S4 has a better sensor but, for her it's only going to mean higher file sizes. So, she got the Note 2; she also considered the iPhone 5 (yeah, iHave friends with I phones too) but, then she realized that she'd have to walk around with a desktop to "sync" it and have to spend a lot of time at Starbucks (for the free Wi-Fi).
BTW, Radio Shack:
★SanDisk 64GB MicroSD - $49.99
★20% off any accessory with new phone purchase
★$10 Coupon for next purchase with new phone purchase
(Not sure how long this goes on, we were in there yesterday - MicroSD should be good for the current Sale Week, though)!!
31. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Thank you for that egregious advert.
"there's no way that 8 (or 4) can give me the same satisfaction as a whopping 13"
Care to elaborate? Is that photo quality satisfaction, or numerical bragging rights satisfaction? Phone manufacturers are in the business of putting out quality product, not stroking your ego.
47. TheBitterrTruth (unregistered)
and what bout 41mp Pureview? :D
5. Diego! (Posts: 473; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
Nice pic! I hope they do the same with Samsung Galaxy S 4, Sony Xperia Z, Nokia Lumia 920/5/8 and they share it with us, so we can see which phone captures more and better details with their pixels/ultrapixels.
10. tiara6918 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Just look at that wide angle camera! Amazing HTC!
11. tech3 (unregistered)
Amazing! Amazing! We all know that HTC is a High Tech Company! :)
12. FlushGordon (unregistered)
Stitched photo....ANY smartphone with a decent cam is equally capable
ULTRAPIXEL is lame...lame lame lame
15. FlushGordon (unregistered)
LOL. nice comment Droidy
17. wendygarett (unregistered)
Couldnt agree more mate
18. FlushGordon (unregistered)
Mate? lmao...you two nimrods are one and the same
21. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Me too, bro. Nokia Pureview craps all over HTC & Samsung. /s
33. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I think we need a readily identifiable blatant sarcasm mark. Is § taken?
42. Jack58221 (Posts: 120; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)
§ that's a great idea §
§ you are brilliant §
§ if only the rest of us err that smart §
yep, that works for me. :-þ
43. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Well, I'm glad someone agrees!
Seriously, I need some method of trolling the trolls without getting thumbed down. How else am I going to prove my superiority?
36. doubler86 (Posts: 309; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
As a photographer I have to say this marketing just very clever and clearly is grabbing people's attention. However it is very misleading. This is an 8" photo. It was a panorama shot to technically that allows them to call it a 46" shot. This doesn't prove anything however. An 8.5 by 11" should look fine with a 4MP. A 46" across photo or any photo that is 46" that has an aspect ratio of 16:9 or 4:3 would look terrible.
This is when MP matter, when it's blown up, otherwise the image processing chip that the camera uses matters a lot more than the pixels.
38. preet27in (banned) (Posts: 173; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
wow... HTC GOOD ON YA MATES. good luck for future.
41. isprobi (Posts: 116; Member since: 30 May 2011)
I agree that megapixels do not always mean better pictures. But that picture looks dark and lacks detail in the darkest areas. So I would not brag too much about it.
48. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
HTC fans are getting desperate now. Anyone can make a great pic out of anything with Photoshop and too much time in their hand. The trick is to take a big and great picture fast and easily, which is something the HTC obviously can't do with just 4mp.
49. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Plus the megapixel myth if retarded. Of course it matters on equal settings. If both sensors are large and takes in sensitive light, the more megapixel wins for the added detail. It's common sense and hiugh mp exists for a reason more than marketing.
Taking a large sensor DSLR camera with low mp and comparing it with a small sensor high mp compact camera doesn't prove anything. The parameters are simply different. The only thing that proves is that people are stupid and do not know how to compare things properly.
On equal terms with the proper parameters, mp matters whether you like it or not. No myth here.
50. Edmund (Posts: 645; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Meanwhile the 8.7mp camera on the Lumia 920 is the only one that properly accomodates both 16:9 and 4:3 aspect ratio's
52. simonhpaton (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)
I have a HTC ONE (M7) phone and I am intersested to know how large I can blow up a photo before I lose detail, quality and resolution. I am using "A Smart Camera" app as this works great on my phone and is much better in Macro and HDR mode than the standard camera app.