x PhoneArena is hiring! Reviewer in the USA
  • Options
    Close






Steve Jobs vowed revenge on Eric Schmidt over Android

0. phoneArena 20 Oct 2011, 21:46 posted on

A biography about Steve Jobs, which is scheduled to be released on Monday, apparently tells the story of the falling out between Eric Schmidt and Steve Jobs, and how Jobs vowed revenge...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:10 10

14. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


You can hold any view of Jobs you like. He was a genius, but he was also human, and had a hand in some terrible things, the least of which was this supposed vendetta.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:11 5

15. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


How do you know he was a genius?

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:15 7

16. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


It's hard to argue with the cultural and technological impact of the Mac, iPhone, iPad, iPod, iTunes, and Pixar, all of which were because of Steve. He may have often stolen ideas from others, but he also had a way of making those ideas better, and making them extremely successful in a way no one else did.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:18 3

18. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


How do you know he is primarily responsible for each the iPhone, iPad, iPod, iTunes and Pixar?

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:06 8

41. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I'm sorry. Are you serious?

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:25

49. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


If you have concluded that Steve Jobs is a genius based on these inventions, I think that is a valid, important question.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 23:33 4

54. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


It's a matter of public record that Steve was, if nothing else, a driving force behind all of those things, and especially with Apple products Steve had final word on what was developed, how it was developed, and how it was marketed.

Steve was not a perfect man, and used some business methods that I personally don't agree with, but I would certainly classify him as a genius given his impact on the computer, mobile, music, and animated movie industries.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:40 1

217. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


did steve ever conceive any of these ideas

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 01:27

110. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)


lol, ohhhh...that's funny. xD

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:19 5

19. Anti-Fanboy (Posts: 38; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)


yeah people seem to forget if the iphone didnt come into play android would look like a copy of blackberry. Search early versions of android to see what i mean.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:23 7

21. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Even if true, does that give Jobs the right to go ballistic because another company dared put out a touchscreen dominant smartphone that was easier to use than a Blackberry?

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:32 1

27. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Exactly, that's why Droid completely destroyed the Storm 2. Everybody wanted the Motorola Droid over the Storm 2 for all the right reasons.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:37 3

31. Anti-Fanboy (Posts: 38; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)


well no it doesnt. Im just saying that iphone DID change the way we look at phones.

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:58

37. GoodFella (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


From the looks of things, on the outside here anyway, it really didn't appear that Jobs went ballistic.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 00:51

92. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@sniggly. If something means a lot to you, yes. Existing touchscreen phones pre iphone, were nothing like the iphone. Steve was the one responsible in putting touchscreen smartphones as the standard on smartphones. Not Google.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 00:58 3

94. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Doesn't mean that Apple gets to be the only company with a touchscreen dominant smartphone out there that's easy to use. It's a silly philosophy that Apple has, that everything must be by them, from them and for them and no one else.

posted on 24 Oct 2011, 19:17

270. Ray386 (Posts: 8; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


no he wasnt he was the first to introduce multi touchscreens to smart phones as the standard

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:24 5

22. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


And how funny is that now with Blackberry OS looking like Android's....

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:35 2

30. Anti-Fanboy (Posts: 38; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)


im pretty sure blackberry doesnt have widgets, multiple homecreens and a notification bar

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:56 3

36. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Actually it does have a notification bar, one that works similar to Android where you can slide it up and down to view your notifications.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 00:05

77. iwebdroidberry7 (Posts: 230; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Blackberry had the drop down notification bar FIRST!

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 04:43

183. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Nope just a mortification menu on the main screen

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 01:57

128. sethyvball (Posts: 46; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


OMFG! Ahahaha! I just got your profile pic meant. Your a genius mate! XD

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:33

28. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I personally doubt it, android might resemble symbian more than bb the problem in that is that when you are building a prototype with little funding you have to go with what you can get, and android was not highly funded until google bought it, so yeah android would be having a touchscreen interface

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 10:39

204. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i only call him a genius because of pixar.

how can anyone not like pixar?

lol

posted on 20 Oct 2011, 22:30 1

25. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


@ Michael. Very true, I've heard quite a bit and the one about denying his daughter Lisa really made me think different of him. It just you know how when a person dies, you want to remember the good this he has done. But like you said, he's still human.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 01:34

114. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Terrible things such as?

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 01:45 4

122. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Terrible things like being head of a company that has:
-used an alleged sweat shop (Foxconn), where 16 people attempted suicide in 2010 because of the working conditions, that has manufactured all iOS devices to date.
-admitted to stealing great ideas, but routinely sues those it sees as having stolen its ideas.
-used draconian censorship in its App Store to the point it wouldn't allow an app that told the story of human rights violations behind the mining for materials used in smartphones.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 02:02 1

132. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You mean the same working conditions that every manufacturer has?


Draconian measures? I believe that app bashed Apple specifically. Why would Apple allow an anti Apple app?

Admitted to stealing ideas?

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 02:24 3

140. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Those are certainly not conditions that every manufacturer has. There have never been any such claims with Samsung, nor has Nokia, or RIM. And, if there is as big an issue as those reported with Foxconn, most companies in Apple's position would stop using that company, but Apple has continued.

Apple already had the parental controls in place, so it had no reason to go as far as it has with app censorship. And, although Apple has been accused of many of the practices outlined in the game, that app did not bash Apple specifically. It presented uncomfortable truths about the tech industry as a whole.

Yes, Steve Jobs has admitted to stealing ideas, the YouTube clip has been linked a bunch of times in comments.

* Some comments have been hidden, because they don't meet the discussions rules.

Want to comment? Please login or register.

Latest stories