Steve Jobs reached out to Samsung in July 2010 about the Galaxy phones, says Apple's patent attorney
4. superguy (Posts: 271; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
No. It's only the "right thing" from Apple's perspective. Clearly Sammy saw it as an extortion attempt and told Apple to go to hell.
Knowing Apple, it was probably "our way or the highway." Samsung probably would have been willing to negotiate a fair agreement, but given Apple's track record, I don't think that's what happened.
9. Telecom (unregistered)
These are all your speculations.
12. C'mon (unregistered)
Why all this non-sense? Just start making your own phones.
I make my own phones, I could successfully make 4 phones from off the shelf components. It is not that hard. I installed Android on two of them. Well the other two, you won't believe me what I did with them. They are really powerful(bulky though).
13. remixfa (Posts: 14251; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
concidering apple has a history of "my way" attitudes and stances, its probably not far off.
18. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@telecom. That's how android fanboys are. Their speculations are to be accepted as facts, lol.
26. superguy (Posts: 271; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
You mean like all the Apple fans calling Sammy thieves? That speculation?
22. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@superguy. Yes, Samsung told Apple to go to hell, and that is why they're now negotiating a deal with Apple :)
You are so smart :)
25. superguy (Posts: 271; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
Samsung has Apple on some patents too, so it wouldn't surprise me if there is talk of cross licensing.
However, Sammy may be losing more money by not being able to sell the Galaxy than it is to pay Apple, so even if Apple is being a patent troll, it may be the cheaper of two options.
Also given that Samsung is trying to get iPhone 5 banned as well and if they think they have a shot, it might be worth bringing Apple to the table to get the madness to stop.
We'll have to see.
2. NeXoS (Posts: 278; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Stever Jobs: Samsung, you know the USPTO granted us the patent on the Rectangle don't you?
Samsung: Stick iT up your arse, we'll see you in court!
28. AppleFUD (unregistered)
yeah, kind of like when Steve called the CEO of Sun Microsystems and tried to say their glass 3D project had some of apple's Mac IP. . . and he replied to Steve that pages and impress have a lot of IP from an old Sun Microsystems project. . . Steve shut up and never said another word.
In other words, Jobs will try to pull this S#@T whenever he can and he knows full well where he's stealing the ideas for apple's devices and programs.
31. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
haha and look whos winnning… this just proves apple was just…. and samsung is naive
3. Bob (unregistered)
Thumbs up for Steve Jobs is an intellectual and thumbs down for the opposite.
5. NeXoS (Posts: 278; Member since: 03 May 2011)
It's not "intellectual" to patent other people's ideas, it's called, "stealing."
10. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6881; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Apple also steal names as well iCloud.
19. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@nexos. It's not stealing until proven guilty in the court. But it's hating and misjudgement when someone calls somebody a thief when they've not been proven guilty.
27. AppleFUD (unregistered)
You do know that apple has lost many a case in court for stealing IP, don't you?
6. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
I thumbed you up, but he used his intellect for the worse. Competition pressure makes better products!
7. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Patent Wars must never existed on earth let the copycat alive, Apple didn't invented anything they copied from other improved it and filed Patent for it.
36. Ivan6479 (Posts: 247; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
So very true!! I love how Apple just got denied on trying to patent the term multi-touch. I mean seriously they want to patent everything they can and its a joy to hear the USPTO put the smack down on their ass. LOL
8. LOLapplethecrapplenotsnapple (unregistered)
Remember these patents are the look of a shiney rectangle, being able to access a phonebook by touch, scrolling from side to side, etc...Im 99% sure ALL of these things were done on other devices before the iPhone. If they win any of these lawsuits and Samsung loses the "3g" patent they own then you know the American Government is UBER corrupt (like we didnt already know), Protect the US company and stop the overseas companies...Seems pretty American-y to do...
11. jacko (unregistered)
Steve Jobs: samsung stop sell devices better then ours coz ours is magical and revolutionary
Samsung: well make better devices with better specs
Steve Jobs: hell no the isuckers would buy my s**t if i called it magical and revolutionary are you going to stop selling we losing market share
Steve Jobs:see you in court coz no else can have better stuff then us
Samsung: see you there
14. Penny (Posts: 1340; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Well, given this information, I have to say that it greatly reduces my negative outlook on the way Apple has been behaving in these patent wars. They did try to come to an agreement before proceeding in court, which is what a company should do. Although I'd still prefer Apple going to court to sue for licensing fees, not for the ban of the offending company's products.
That being said, I am still firmly opposed to being awarded patents for UI and design...
15. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
like expected excuses from androids.. btw.. Samsung is losing.. ok...
20. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@gallitoking. You're wrong. Android fanboys' perspective is, Apple loses when they win in court, and android wins even if they lost in court.
That's how fucked up android fanboys' mentality are, lol.
16. andro. (Posts: 1977; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
He reached out and said "if your dare sell a better phone than ours we will sue you"
21. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
@andro. This was not in the article.
Again, this is an android fanboy making up stuff :) A concrete proof that android supporters are big LIARS :)
17. Sniggly (Posts: 7221; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Again: if Samsung and HTC both are willing to pay Microsoft millions in royalties without even being sued, why not Apple? Furthermore, if Apple cared so much about doing the right thing, how come they have to be dragged through the courts by everyone else just to pay royalties that THEY owe?
30. AppleFUD (unregistered)
Because Steve Jobs is a massive hypocrite and therefore his company reflects that as do his "followers."
for any sane person that wants to know just how much apple has stolen form others the information is out there. . . the isheep are just too lazy. they are like zealot religious nuts--doesn't matter what proof you have they believe their leader completely and that's why it's pointless to even attempt to have an intellectual conversation with them about facts.
23. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Bad Steve. Very bad. I expected more from you. You are a very decent man, Steve. But looks like even decent men like yourself make mistakes.
Then again he only gave green light to the attorneys. He never explicitly said "Go ban the living SH!T out of the Tab 10.1 and the Galaxy S - and therefore severely limit consumer choice - in Germany, Australia and the Netherlands".
I still admire you, Steve. Even though I hate Crapple for what it is - and most importantly - for what it ISN'T - I believe that you only caused things to turn for the best.
Best wishes and good health to you, if you are reading this.
24. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Lets see everyone else settles before going to court bit with apple it ends up in court....with apple its either there way or nothing....
29. taco50_is_dead (unregistered)
Wonder if the conversation was anything like the one Jonathan Schwartz had with Jobs?
32. Sniggly (Posts: 7221; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Well, that certainly confirms my suspicions about Jobs' attitude: "no one else is allowed to imitate but us."
34. taco50_is_dead (unregistered)
You hadn't heard about that before?
That's isn't even the good stuff. You should read about why Xerox tried to sue Apple--apple was trying to patent Xerox's IP on the GUI. . . and what was apple trying to sue MS for? The GUI. And how did apple create the GUI? by copying the Xerox Alto and hiring many Xerox PARC employee to develop the Mac OS. And NO apple did not pay to license the GUI from Xerox--they paid to visit PARC and barrow the Alto to "get ideas" that apple could use, not copy it.
Sounds a lot like what apple is crying about with Android isn't it.
Now how about the iPod? Check out the UK person whom they said created the "digital music player" to defend themselves against burst.com
And how about Larry Page pointing out how Steve Jobs tried to rewrite history about the iPhone and Android--It's clear Jobs got the idea for the iPhone from Google.
Man, there is so much more on jobs. . . read some of Wozniak's history with him. Jobs even ripped him off before they started apple and then he wanted to stiff the apple employees when apple went public. Jobs is a great salesman and he has a lot of bad traits that go along with that.
35. remixfa (Posts: 14251; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
apple.. the father of lies and theivery.
33. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)
The truth is they are pirates and for them to accuse anyone else of piracy is delusional.
Please keep acting out Apple.