Steve Jobs goes on the attack, watch out Google and Adobe
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Jobs went after Google's motto of "Don't Be Evil" with some witnesses saying that Jobs outright called the motto "a load of crap," after the Mountain View company launched the Nexus One. Jobs pointed out that Apple didn't go into the search business, so why should Google go after the iPhone? Jobs pointed out that Google wants to kill the iPhone. (Which is probably why it has been labeled, along with the DROID, the LG Voyager, the Samsung Instinct, the HTC HD2 and some others as the 'iPhone killer',a label that none of the devices was able to stand up to).
As far as Adobe is concerned, Jobs says the reason that the iPhone doesn't support Flash is because it's so buggy. He even stated that the rare times when a Mac crashes, it is usually due to Flash. Jobs also predicted that no one would be using Flash in the future, turning instead to html5 which is somewhat ironic. Why? Because html5 is the platform used by Google to allow the new browser supported Google Voice app to bypass Apple's App Store and work on mobile Safari. The CEO also says that Adobe has the potential to do many great things, but just doesn't and he calls the company lazy.
Wow, it sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of his iBed this morning. Perhaps he should take a tablet and see the Doctor. Anyway, for those iPhone/iPod Touch users who have been waiting for Adobe to release a version of Flash for mobile Safari, it doesn't sound like you might see it released soon.
source: Wired via BGR
1. tflex (Posts: 146; Member since: 24 Oct 2008)
Best part of the article is the mention of all of the supposed" iphone killers" not able to stand up to the iphone. Iphone will never die. It would of happened by now and i cant wait for thr 4th gen iphone. I think google really went wrong not offering their device through carriers and only online. They could sell so many more phones through tmobile or whoever else gets it. Alotta people buy their phones through the carrier at a store or online. Ah well. I wont be getting any other phone anyway. Im content with my iphone.
2. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
Looks like iphone just committed suicide. Steve Jobs is shooting himself in the foot by burning all the bridges to the biggest companies in the tech world.
3. tuminatr (Posts: 698; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)
sounds like a megalomaniac to me, what a tool
4. rhomaion (Posts: 187; Member since: 23 Sep 2009)
Oh yes because let me tell you how many times Apple required Google or Adobe's services for their iPhone... oh wait... they didn't did they?
8. mcmkone (Posts: 54; Member since: 24 Mar 2009)
To be honest he hasn't burnt his bridges at all he's challenging them companies to do what they're their for.. to be creative and work harder... come on when you really think about it he's right Flash is crap, Google got it totally wrong with the Nexus and there hasn't been a phone yet to date that could come close to the ease of use a touch screen phone gives you with the iPhone. I'm not a huge fan of the iPhone and i only have one because i can jailbreak it, if I couldn't then i wouldn't have one simple.. but you have to give credit to Apple for making a lot of good technology ideas come true... although they really did mess up on the iPad... my good who's really gonna pay £300 for a large ipod touch which he claims and i quote, the cross device between a Mac and a Iphone... hummm funny that, No USB, No front facing Camera, No GPS....? How is this a cross device....??? somebody tell me....???
15. MR521 (Posts: 47; Member since: 12 Jun 2009)
rhomaion...of course apple has used google's services. The stock search engine on an iphone/ipod is GOOGLE ( i think now switched to Bing). As far as Adobe, well he should cuz its lame that a user can view cool sites supporting flash for video, on a sweet device like the iphone. Jobs is just nuts. His product is good, but android is doing a hell of a job with their OS. And whether it is recognized or not, the Droid and the Nexus One ARE iphone killers, otherwise why would Jobs point out that Apple didn't go into the search business, so why should Google go after the iPhone? Good job Google and Android, keep 'em comin!
18. BrokenImaege (Posts: 173; Member since: 27 Jul 2009)
Agreed, what change he had of Adobe and getting it on his device, probably just got put on hold.... So in a month or two, let me know how Hulu works on your IPhone cause I know my DROID will do it. :-)
19. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
iphone does do plenty right. but heaven forbid that an apple competitor has a technology that other people enjoy and use. Steve Jobs sees a threat in google and adobe so he automatically dismisses it. And alllllll the apple fan boys drinking the apple koolaid are going to be good sheep and believe him. Competition is the only thing thats going to help apple stay alive. Instead of steve jobs name calling and pointing fingers, maybe he should step up his game and make improvements like flash support, multitasking, customization, etc...
29. Russki (Posts: 45; Member since: 26 Dec 2009)
Dont you guys get it? the Nexus one is just a teaser. Its not the "Google Phone" If any of you even cared to find out ( and most fanboys wont, they'll just be ignorant fanboys) The nexus one was made to test the limits of the Android operating system, Flash, and some other cool new technoligy. The REAL google phone will feature a qualcomm dual core mobile processor that is in the final testing phase right now. It will reach speeds of 1.5ghz without sacrificing battery power And having access to flash on your phone will allow you to access millions of apps offered through your browser (newgrounds.com and many others), and the extra processing power will usher in a new era of gaming and app expirience on a mobile device. oh and did i mention you can multi-task on an android phone? And a note to steve jobs - HTML5 wont work on a mobile device unless said device has some massive battery life and intense processing power. Having HTML5 on a 3gs would be like trying to sustain an elephant on food portions ment for a small dog.
5. rhomaion (Posts: 187; Member since: 23 Sep 2009)
Besides this article is a load of BS to start with...
6. GlenF (Posts: 50; Member since: 02 Nov 2009)
What i've always noticed, is when a competitor is insignifigant, you make an quick joke, then bury them and forget they existed. When you're threatened/cornered by an up and coming competitor you spend your time telling your employees how much they suck, how lazy they are, how they're out of their zone of expertise. Either Steve is on Roids (not Droids) to be able to have the strength to handle day to day operations, and it's making him a little hostile, or he's just given away exactly how worried he is about Android... Either way this should get messy and fun also, love how this dumba** site puts in their two cents about "I-phone killers" There's journalistic integrity for you....
9. zZ INFINITY Zz (Posts: 27; Member since: 22 Jan 2010)
I agree at the last thing you said... Killing the iPhone? What are you talking about... Let's say: I have the choice to choose ANY smartphone out there (like I did on 24 dec 2009 when I choose the HD2). I will not go for the iPhone. No way. Even the idea to trow away all that money, for what? A 3,5 inch screen, with a button, a lockscreen, and all your apps together. Even when I jailbroke my iPod Touch 2nd 8 months ago or whatever I just could not make the iPhone more 'complicated'. It is just to simple for me. Off course for the MANY simple people out there, the iPhone is heaven. They enjoy that Appstore with all the fart apps! We all know that most major apps come to all AppStore's and all Smartphone's.. I am done with all the stupid iPhone fanboys and news. If they all would have the attitude of 'We have a good smartphone, with a good and simple OS, and the best AppStore out there' I would be happy with them and agree. But when they all have the attitude of 'WE ARE THE KINGZ. NOBODY CAN KILL ZEH IPHONE'... I just have no more respect for them.
10. becazican (unregistered)
I dont understand why anyone wants to make an iphone killer, I love apple and i think the iphone revolutionized the smartphone industry. i definitly would of bought one except for the service they are connected to, "at&t". i had them for a year got so fed up with them called their customer service and was on hold 45 min, they told me they were shorthanded, i told them for a company that is in the business of communications they fail miserably. Also i think the iphone is very cool but i dont think the phone call quality is anything to write home about. i love my droid and look forward to nexus one, as for steve going off on adobe and google, he needs a vacation.
12. renegade626 (Posts: 54; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
The reason anyone wants to make an Iphone killer is a couple main reasons a) In Marketing one of the main strategies is to Attack the leader and try to taker their spot in the market. Unless a company is ok with being less than number one, this is a very common way to market. b) Open architecture. google is very anti-proprietary and obviously apple is very pro-propietary, and this conflict almost becomes an ethics debate. c) $$$$ (of course)
11. renegade626 (Posts: 54; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
Oh.. how exciting First I have to LoL because Steve Jobs admits that flash actually crashes his mac hahaha.... Ive had Win7 for a while and have never experienced a crash in general (not even my firefox running flash or no flash crashes). Other than that this must be the first time that a bead of sweat has rolled down apples neck because they could actually lose a large chunk of the market to a single concept. I think apples gonna have do to a little better than a 10" Itouch to regain its stature in their market otherwise their going to have to move over. I guess all giants eventually get matched at some point.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14224; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the problem is, steve jobs and apple has been praised for too long by Ibots and idiots as the "kings of this or that". Their products, like them or not (and i dont), revolutionized the industries of cell phones and MP3 players. Unfortunatly they have only made very MINOR improvements since the start. Being on top makes you less "agressive" and more "protective". The people in 2nd,3rd,4th place are still agressive to get to the top, by findind something better than the crown. The person with the crown stops being agressive and only makes minor tweaks. This is exactly what your seeing. It happends to every company that has been on top for too long. Look at MS, GM, on and on and now apple. Quite simply, hes attacking because hes worried because hes losing market share and everyone is making fun of him for the Ipad. oh and phone arena... way to show your ibot love with that iphone killers comment. The iphone is an outdated piece of garbage. Android FTW :)
14. jrcrow79 (Posts: 477; Member since: 02 May 2008)
I think jobs wanted to challenge those companies who think they know better about building their devices compared to apples reputation for building theirs..hell adobe wont get an my iphone cause they dont wanna give apple stock n company buyouts to adobe..but that just my own opinion!!
16. superjew (Posts: 7; Member since: 02 Jun 2009)
I have a friend who uses that exact language, calling people "lazy" when they do things he doesn't agree with. I am pretty sure photoshop, premier, after-effects, flash, and the rest were not a result of a lazy company, and Steve Jobs needs to stop being so pretentious. Dude, you make electronics, get over it. Your Ipad won't usher mankind into another age of reason, and if EVERYONE is complaining that your products don't do something, maybe instead of calling them lazy you should give the people what they want.
17. Mayday3420 (Posts: 61; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Sounds to me like this can't handle a little bit of competition. As soon as he truly found a competitor he tries to rip apart the entire company and their product. If they were really so badly made then he wouldn't have to comment on them at all cause their product will speak for themselves.... what a tool.
20. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
instead of making a better product, he complains now that a phone has hit the iphones nerve and he sees that he may actually have to use some of the huge profit he has made from the iphone and other mac products to actually create a better product. (as sarcastic as can be) poor jobs...
21. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
I've read other versions of this same story on other websites, and each time Jobs has been qouoted as saying a different variation of the same thing; So I wonder about the actual journalistic integrity of these claims. But I agree about Flash. It's a (slowly) dying technology. And I think you can thank Adobe for that. If any of you can remember, Flash was originally done by Macromedia, and at the time, was a great product. Now that Adobe has taken over, Flash has started to become somewhat of a dinosaur, with minor updates that don't seem to do add a whole lot. I think the fact that HTML5 is becoming more and more popular and recognized, and the fact that Steve has essentially said he won't support Flash; Not to mention the fact that the iPhone is responsible for the vast majority of mobile web browsing traffic, HTML5 has an even greater probability of becoming the standard in the near future. As far as Google and Android are concerned, I personally am glad they are in the current market, to help drive innovation and creativity in the mobile market. This way, we as consumers win. Does Android have the ability to sync seamlessly with my Mac? That's personally the biggest reason that the iPhone on VZW appeals to me. The BB syncing capabilities with my Mac are less than average, at best.
22. remixfa (Posts: 14224; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
easy answer, get a PC like most people... then u dont have to worry about only buying apple products to work with apple products. :)
23. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Ha! Easy answer to that is an emphatic NO! While having a Mac might create a few MINOR headaches, it's well with it in terms of ease of use and reliability. Every PC I've ever used has had some kind of buggy quirk to it. Not to mention the fact that all those PCs require some kind of "anti-viral" program to keep them safe; And those just add to the already choppy user experience.
24. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
BTW, was I to assume from your response, that Android does NOT have any kind of Mac support?
26. renegade626 (Posts: 54; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
You obviously havnt used windows 7..... personally I dont like to shell out twice the cash for all the propietary junk... I dont even use much for antivirus because I know what im doing on my pc/internet and I havnt had a problem for years... But I guess thats why people buy macs, because they dont have a clue and dont want one...
27. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Ugh, all I ever hear out of PC users is the same old "Mac users are idiots...the only people who buy Macs are people that don't know how to use a computer." I've never had a problem with any of my Macs either. If you think that by me wanting a computer to run the way it should, w/o problems, and lousy complications, then yes, consider me clueless!
30. Russki (Posts: 45; Member since: 26 Dec 2009)
Who the fuck uses mac? what good is a mac... i still dont understand why. Seems its only good because apple says it is look at the numbers. Out of the millions of people who use computers - 60% PC. 27% Mac. 10% linux. 3% other
31. Russki (Posts: 45; Member since: 26 Dec 2009)
Oh and i forgot to add... NOTHING FUCKING WORKS ON MAC. INCOMPATIBLE. MACINTOSH = EPIC FAIL
32. renegade626 (Posts: 54; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
ok... your clueless... (what you just said makes you sound like same stereotypical mac user).... All I ever hear from mac users is its easy, I dont have problems... All you need now is to stand in a white room with your mac next to you could be in a TV commercial
34. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Lol! It was a sarcastic joke! Get a fucking clue, you twat...People like you, that act as though the OS you use is a declaration of war, crack me up! What's even more funny is that this all started because I simply asked if Android would sync with my Mac. To which, I might add, I still have not received a definitive answer; Just a bunch of bullshit about how I "should just buy a PC like the rest of us". Fuckin imbeciles.
36. Mayday3420 (Posts: 61; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Sounds like you're the one who wants to declare war over the OS. And btw, the reason why you don't have to have a virus scanner on a mac? it's not because of the built in security. It's because almost all corporations uses windows so hackers have no reason at all to make viruses to attack mac cause in the corp world mac really doesn't exist. Now if mac comes as popular as windows in the corp world then you yes, You will def need virus protection. Plus you're still paying twice as much for something a pc can do. You're buying the name, not the product.
38. renegade626 (Posts: 54; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
So... Do I need to say what I just did again? Because your posts just keep on justifying it.... I never said anything about an operating system, just the stereotypical users of macs.
39. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
And I'm a sterotypical Mac user how? I've just made a point that I find you PC users rational funny, that's all. I actually have never said anything to allude to "my OS is better than your OS". My earlier comments were in regard to what I have experienced in the past, and thus, are my subjective opinions. Why don't you just do me a favor, and answer my question: Does Android sync at all, even remotely with a Mac? That's all I wanted to know from the start. It's been PC this and that ever since. I didn't even bring up PC vs. Mac. I just wanted an answer to a question, but it's obvious none of you can answer it, so I'll find it on my own. Thanks.
25. renegade626 (Posts: 54; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
The one thing that mac users cant do that PC users can........ STFU
28. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Lol! Wish that could be said for the majority of Android users on this site...
33. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
go delete your account really. you dis android all the time because its better than the iPhone OS. you're a die hard tard just like Jobs. Jobs snapped at google for attacking the iPhone when Apple doesnt bother search engines yet Apple like 4 years ago, did the exact same thing google is doing now; going into a new field. So Jobs really should just STFU and make a better OS if he wants to compete with a truely better edge
35. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
You either need to go back to bed, or pull out your tampon! All you do is go around and try to insult me for the same shit you do! Wake up! You're living a life of hypocricy. My previous arguement with you was not about Android in general, but about the physical aspects of the Droid! I love that since I wasn't going to play your silly game earlier, you just continue your bullshit elsewhere.
37. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
it may have been about the droid, but i used most my statements to back myself up with the OS, which is android. YOU're the one bullshitting else where not me, i followed up.
40. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
"i used most my statements to back myself up with the OS, which is android." That statement right there, just goes to show that you missed the point of what I was saying in the first place. Just pay attention next time, please? You wanna use Android? Fine. But like it or not, it's still my God-given right to not like the layout/physical features of a particular phone. Just so you know, I actually REALLY like the N1. When it comes to VZW, I plan on giving it a solid shot.
41. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
yea it is your right... you're the one who missed the point and there still is no other point other than what i read. you dont like the android OS even though its better than the iphones so you keep saying the iphone OS is better. i dont consider that an opinion, but ignorance. you were insulting the droid yes, but still claim that android basically suck by saying that all android users should STFU. and you call me the hypocrite.
42. YouLostTheGame (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
Lol! Are you a little girl or something? Because only a little girl would read into something that was said, the way you seem to. I just can't get over how funny it is, that you find your own opinion as fact. And go back and re-read my post. I specifically stated "the majority"...not "all" Android users. Last time I checked, that would equal no less than 51%. And 51% does not equal 100%. Once again, just proves you are somehow unable to pay attention to what is really being said, instead of getting panties all in a knot. Catch you on another article somewhere...
43. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
hmmm... so because you cant admit how much of an ass you really are, you decide to call me a girl because i changed one word,that barely changes the entire fucking meaning. all in all, you're dising the majority of android users. you're the girl for bitching about the one word that doesnt change the meaning of the sentence. no it is not my opinion as it is fact the android OS is better than the iPhone is multiple categories thus making it better than the iPhones current OS.