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Steve Ballmer gets worst CEO dishonor, Microsoft facing RIM’s fate

0. phoneArena 15 May 2012, 10:39 posted on

Microsoft’s chief executive Steve Ballmer is the most outspoken tech company CEO we can think of, he’s probably the weirdest presenter, and might top the list in other personal traits…

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posted on 15 May 2012, 10:45 19

1. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Its true that Ballmer is a terrible CEO, Microsoft's tactic since him is to spend, spend, spend until it makes a profit. No real strategy other than bullying itself into a market. Eventually they will run out of capital to do this though, so then they will need a REAL businessman.

posted on 15 May 2012, 11:09 13

10. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


indeed, people like argue with me about that but windows current mobile percent is due all the burnt money they have thrown, and yet is till super low. they LOST lots of time, they should have worked on developing WP faster than what they did. they cant compete with the evolution of both android and iOS, with their update schedule.

I even invented a new meaning "A Ballmer: Wen someones tries to enforce success and fails"

posted on 15 May 2012, 19:26 1

52. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I have been saying this for the past few years...MS waited too long to try to answer the iPhone. They waited too long to go to capacitive screens. After playing with an iPhone in 2008....I was gonna get one JUST for the capacitive screen. That and I thought Verizon service was getting bad. Turned out it was my phone..lol

Android was also an unexpected obstacle they didnt plan on.

posted on 16 May 2012, 10:14

67. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


You're 100% correct! The iPhone coup can totally be blamed on the capacitive touch screen! Before 2008 almost everybody who was somebody at my company used Windows Mobile, Now I doubt you'd find ONE using Windows Phone!

posted on 15 May 2012, 12:58 3

28. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


MS is like America: The Company! (Even though America ran out of capital years ago...)

posted on 15 May 2012, 13:41 5

33. torr310 (Posts: 886; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


He is as good as Nokia's Stephon Elop.

posted on 15 May 2012, 13:41 4

34. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


You can say the same for Stephen Elop, current Nokia CEO. They spend way too much but gain so little. At least Steve Ballmer did not kill his own products.

IMO, both Stephen Elop and Steve Ballmer should go.

posted on 15 May 2012, 17:55 3

51. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Well, Steve B. did kill Windows Mobile, but immediately followed it up with Windows Phone. On a similar note, Steve E. killed Symbian, and immediately followed it up with... wait for it... Windows Phone!

posted on 20 May 2012, 10:31

71. AndroidShiz (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


Elop is a blind loyalist. "I see the cliff set before me, and I do have options and brakes, the best of what money can buy actually. But I'm best friends with Microsoft because some of us used to work there, and I'm showing my true friendship by going over. Sure, my buddy Microsoft will still be there, since they packed a parachute, but they will remember and honor us long after we've been smoked by Windows."

posted on 16 May 2012, 02:56

61. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


but unfortunately they will still have plenty of bucks from governments' bribes, manufacturers bribes and from private companies.
here are the facts how they earn money:
https://sites.google.com/site/corpsins/

ps: this is not off topic, just to explain how Microsoft earn money

posted on 15 May 2012, 10:49 9

2. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


He maybe the worst CEO, however Windows 8 is going to be a great OS and the Xbox 360 is a great console.

posted on 15 May 2012, 10:55 10

4. windowsRocks (Posts: 153; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


Even MS is not confident about it. How could you be??

posted on 15 May 2012, 10:57 8

7. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


Hmm, the Xbox was actually Bill Gates baby, Ballmer wasn't heading MS before the XBOX launched. Windows 8, is nothing but a simple revolution of Windows. Before MS gets too far down the tubes, he'll be removed trust me on that, just like Elop's days are numbered, so is this guys if he doesn't turn MS fortunes around and start making investors happy. Might be too late for MS in the mobile phone arena, but they might be able to do something in the tablet arena as Google hasn't put the high octane fuel in yet, but if they miss it MS will be in a very sorry state.

posted on 15 May 2012, 10:54 8

3. windowsRocks (Posts: 153; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


Microsoft can survive only if Bill Gates joins the company again....LOL

posted on 15 May 2012, 11:15 6

12. jamrockjones (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Microsoft isn't going anywhere for a while. The only real competition is Apple and their products are way to expensive and don't offer enough variety. But I do agree with the article, this man is waaaaaay to much talk and toooooo much stupid action. It ticks me off when he bashes on Android. It seems like they just bash other OS's because there isn't enough to promote about there's. And I hate their mobile marketing right now, the whole "every other smartphone was simply a beta or test mobile" is a joke. Ya, that's right, Android is the beta and WP is the real deal, and that's why they hold less than 2% of the market.

posted on 15 May 2012, 13:46 5

37. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


Agreed! And has no native Bluetooth transfers, no native HDMI, no native microSD, no native mass storage, and the list goes on and on.

Frankly speaking, the dull tool Symbian, not even considering the Belle FP1, is way more feature-packed in terms of hardware and I/O, yes, even the cluttered S60V3/V5 S^1/2/3!

Going with Windows Phone 7.5 is like undergoing the Dark Ages!

posted on 15 May 2012, 17:10 1

50. tward291 (Posts: 559; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)


first off neither android nor ios had all that out the window so calm down things will come in time. its a nice os does everything i need it to do pretty well. i am just a student at the moment but it handles all my work great and i love the fact i can type a paper at last minute on my phone and email it before that midnite deadline.

posted on 15 May 2012, 10:55 1

5. tward291 (Posts: 559; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)


microsoft is not getting rid of zune there just rebranding it. i dont like that idea either but thats a fact. and how is microsoft facing rims fate unless you mean in the mobile space i might be able to see that but that is a far cry. as a company there far from that with the xbox brand and pc os i dont see that. sometimes i wonder why phonearena rights about some of the stupides sh-t i mean come on the title makes it seem as though you have evidence that there done cant compete on any field WOW what a cluster Fu0k

posted on 15 May 2012, 10:57 3

6. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


Totally agree... he took uncle Bill's empire and destroyed it. Except for xbox, no compelling products that can match Apple or Google. Win 8? maybe, I guess time will tell but it's been a rough 10plus years for sure

posted on 15 May 2012, 12:32 1

24. profperez1 (Posts: 70; Member since: 08 May 2012)


I think Gates was able to build a company on people buy boxes from MS for $500+. When that paradigm became outdated---he left. As for the MS business plan of the last 10 years----100% typical of a large American company. Don't change until you collapse. Here is my in text citation. (Mot, 2007) and (YAHOO, 2004?). The good news for MS. They have a "gagilion" dollars to make rapid change. Starting in Nov-----1M Windows phones will get activated each week. That number will double in 2013.

posted on 15 May 2012, 10:57 5

8. tward291 (Posts: 559; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)


i do agree they do need a new CEO please bill come back lol

posted on 15 May 2012, 13:03 4

30. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


I wish he could come back aslo. but he's too busy giving and taking time to charity.

posted on 15 May 2012, 11:04 5

9. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


no wonder ppl want to punch him so bad

posted on 15 May 2012, 11:11 6

11. Iphone4 (unregistered)


i just dont like WP7 or 7.5

posted on 15 May 2012, 13:49

38. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


It's like taking a watchamacallit? Zune? Then slapping a phone on it. That's it. WP7.5 = ZUNE PHONE.

posted on 15 May 2012, 15:11

44. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


It worked for the iphone. iphone = ipod + phone module

posted on 15 May 2012, 20:11

55. steelicon (Posts: 318; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)


Zune to iPod = Playing catch up.
WP7.5 to iPhone = Playing catch up.

Symbian to others = Reference to most OS.

posted on 15 May 2012, 11:34 5

13. akita256 (Posts: 80; Member since: 26 Jan 2012)


He and the CEO's of RIM and Nokia all need to go!! I've never seen any CEO's that were less responsive to the competition around them and unwilling to even acknowledge it.

posted on 15 May 2012, 13:53 1

39. axllebeer (Posts: 271; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)


The CEO's of RIM did go, and it was much needed. They are at least trying to turn things around. For them, might be too late to pull back lost customers, but finally with the new CEO, the pace of change is picking up for the better.

posted on 15 May 2012, 11:38 14

14. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i dont agree with this assessment. Was Balmer a little late in reacting to the new evolution/revolution of mobile OS's? Absolutely.
Does he come across as a bit of a jackass? Absolutely.
Is he the worst CEO? Absolutely not.
He is no where near a Basille or any other of these bumbling moron CEOs that destroyed their companies and refused to see the light or get out of the way.

Balmer is head of one of the world's largest companies that has a multi armed approach much like samsung. They are NOT just a PC company. That is their bread n butter, yes, but it is not the only thing they do. BTW, how are they doing as a PC company? I'd say pretty well since they still dominate the market for PCs and Laptops. Office faces extreme competititon for the first time in its life and its still on top by wide margins. The xbox360 is a mega success unlike its predecessor which never made MS a dime. MS is still positive billions and billions in cashflow. Oh yea, and they have all that Sync stuff going on with Ford and other companies, getting MS to help control your daily drive.

Many of those markets their mobile competitors like Apple and Google dont even exist in, so to say that Balmer is the worst CEO of all time because of a flop on mobile products, is RIDICULOUS. Windows Mobile hasnt been a big player in what 5 or 6 years? It was having issues long before iOS and Android came out.. they just hurried up its death. It hasnt been a big part of MS's coffers in a long time, if ever.

To those that whine about how much MS is spending now on WP7, I say look back at the original xbox. Their gaming division was in the red the entire time because they were selling Xboxes at loss to keep them competitive and advertising the heck out of it. The OG xbox was awesome, but it lost handily to the PS2. They then debut the Xbox360 and now they went from over a 100million sales deficit to its competitor, to being the #1 non-Wii system in the world.
To draw a direct parallel. WP7 is costing them lots of money and they are selling it for less than they are making on it while advertising the heck out of it directly or indirectly through Nokia. When WP8 drops with features like desktop compatibility, the fact that its going to be on EVERY MS product from desktops,laptops, the next Xbox, tablets, and phones, its all but garunteed to be a massive success if it works well at all.

You guys need to quit being so darn short sited and having all these knee jerk reactions. Do a little history with the company your condemning and realize its all part of the game plan. WP7 is the well made loss leader that is the lead in for WP8 to be a sales success.

a few years ago we saw the domination of RIM and the extreme rise of iOS. Then we saw the fall of rim and the extreme rise of Android. In 2013 unless the i5 is a big big game changer, we will see the fall of iOS and the rise of WP8.

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