Steve Ballmer confirms that Nokia Windows Phones are on tap for next week, says Android is for geeks
1. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 467; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
Lol, I guess it is more difficult using a more complex OS, it has more options making it superior, and that's why Wp7 is for old people! lol jking
19. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
i was going to come in here and say the same thing. Windows is for my great grand
71. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
I wouldn't put too much stock into what Ballmer said. He said it to appeal to the masses that are non-techies. I very much consider myself to be a geek, but I prefer WP7. In fact, most WP7 users that I know are technology enthusiasts that adopted the platform early.
Oh, and your great grand is a very smart person.
69. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Windows phone is for everyone except "geeks". Too simple for their brains to compute. Its good that everyone can use wp, even grammas and grandpas. Stay connected to the people you care most. And to see grammas and grandpas use wp is exciting. Get everyone into the tech age!
2. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
well than i am proud to be a geek. android is the os of my choice i am a fandroid and proud of it :D
35. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
With Android activation metrics approaching 1 million/day, there must be a bunch of 'geeks' out there. Steve would sell his entire family into bondage to get those metrics for WP7.
36. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
^That's the truth.
How is everyone at Microsoft NOT a "geek", by the way?
3. Smg-Uk (Posts: 24; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Can't wait to see the Nokia WP's otherwise i will be upgrading from my Mozart to the Titan :D
4. KEVlN (Posts: 83; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
If telling us that nokia windows phones are coming is their answer to the nexus prime/android 4.0 then they are seriously kidding themselves. Windows phone is still just picking up crumbs of market-share. Numbers don't lie and the pure fact that android is the leading OS as of today just proves that people prefer android. They need to get off their high horse and accept that what they have is great and all, but people like that extra kick. People like geeks. And android isn't going anywhere.
15. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Not to kill your thunder but has there been any real marketing effort and quality phone launches? I am sure once HTC and Nokia jump into the game things will change quite a bit. Nokia has a very strong brand.
26. crankyd00d (Posts: 191; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Actually HTC "jumped into the game" from day one and the results are what you see. It is Microsoft's fault the hardware is so far behind since they dictate what your phone can have inside, that's the problem with Windows Phone, hardware. I was thinking about trying Windows but with Google's announcement last night they again are far behind
28. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Actually, the results are partly from a seriously limited feature set in the original Windows Phone (much like the iPhone and first android devices had) and so the verdict on them was "nice, but not ready yet".
Windows Phone is playing catch up , and no doubt Android willk remain more feature rich and mature then Windows Phone after wednesday as before, but that doesn't mean it hasn't come along way, nor does it mean MS (and other moile platforms) should just give up an let there be an Android/iPhone duopoly.
34. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
Kevin,Nokia Windows Phones have been in the making since February 11th - You know this! The Nokia/Microsoft alliance pre dates anything released after that announcement.
Ballmer isn't telling you that Nokia WP phones is the answer to the Galaxy Nexus/Android 4.0; Ballmer is stating that the Nokia WP devices will be announced, finally.
6. kira023 (Posts: 13; Member since: 26 Apr 2011)
like kshell1 said; "I'm PROUD to be a geek too, Android is the os of my choice i am a fandroid and proud of it :D" ... i totally agree
14. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
wp7 is just to simple for me i need more customization and free apps. ios is not even an os lol its nothing but an app launcher :P
29. bluechrism (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
"need more customization and free apps"
We all like free apps, me included. However, as a developer, i can tell you i would get into windows phone / symbian before iOS and androind right now, and probably iOS before android for two reasons:
2. People who only download free apps.
People on symbian and windows phone are happier to pay for apps (and windows phone it helps that so many are try before you buy). You still have to write something good for it t be worth paying for, but developer time in producing apps is worth something, and probably something more than the meagre amount the ad-funded model can get you.
It does depend a bit though - if my app is connecting to a service and my real goal is to get people to use a service, android is where to go first, and symbian (still world wide highest installed user base, even if it's not growing so much now), iOs and then windows phone.
70. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Customize what? You still place dead widgets on home screen. There is no actual customization. They are just shells made by oems to place over Android. Apps aren't free. They just trials. But you buy to get full version. And the "geek" thing, SB did not call anyone geeks. Read his quotes. Then read title of this article. Who's calling who a geek?
7. nanozander (Posts: 85; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
My MCSE cert is digitally signed by this guy..... =.=
8. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
I ain't a computer scientist and I figured-out androids awesomeness after just 2 hours of playing with it, and by the way I had no Idea what an OS at that time is. . .
45. SuperEd (Posts: 132; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
You SURE AIN'T. Guess you ain't to privy to gettin an edgabucation either. We'll gitcha all hooked up wid dem iiiicecream sammich. Heeeeeyaaaaawwww. you dun prettiy neer smart one XiphiasGladius!!!!
9. protozeloz (Posts: 5395; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Is everyone and their mothers coming with that argument lately? I. Guess we are having around 800k nerds a day. .....
10. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
True it isn't complicated to use wp7 and true you do need to fiddle with Android to learn ins and outs. He never mentioned a word "geek". First time seen PA insight a flame war.
21. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
They just posted a spec "smackdown". If they didn't EXPECT a flame war then they need to wake up. Especially while omitting KNOWN specs from the i4s.
Geez, Michael, posted a "review" of an event IN HONG KONG that he did not attend. Then called a poster a "jerk" when he pointed out the errors and obvious bias.
not only will thet start a flame war...they participate.
46. SuperEd (Posts: 132; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Please keep your self image to yourself. :-(
12. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Normal tactic by Microsoft and APPLE - put down the competition by calling them something while pumping up your own product to disguise its shortcomings....
13. Smg-Uk (Posts: 24; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
So your ignoring the fact that Google were recently having a dig at WP and also that most of "Icecream Sandwich" is actually copyed from of os's especially WP.
18. c.hack (Posts: 603; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
So your ignoring the fact that Windows was copied from Mac and even the junk MS copies is 2 years too late and crippled? They just discovered copy/paste. lol. What a joke...
37. Smg-Uk (Posts: 24; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Hmm do you know how long it took Apple to add Copy & Paste to iPhone LOL
The Only joke is your comment.
24. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
The war of words goes both ways. That is a fact. Thumb me down all you want but its true.
16. c.hack (Posts: 603; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
You don’t need to be a computer scientist to use a Windows Phone, but I think you do to need to be a flaming bald fool. lol. I use both a Droid and an iPhone, but can't imagine switching to a phone this fool is peddling.
41. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
So you are simply unwilling to give something a fair chance BEFORE judging it?
Seems about par for the course for somebody that has Android to satisfy one set of peers and an iPhone to satisfy the other set of peers.
Don't forget to put your dunce hat back on to hide that baldness.
20. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
Windows is for old people
iOS is for mature adults
and Android is for KIDS
25. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Windows phone is for everyone except "geeks" as PA puts it.
39. jacko (unregistered)
Android is for mature adults
iOS is for kids
23. Cyd07 (Posts: 83; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)
My choice is not done, I will change my phone in as few time as possible.
And, yes, Ballmer is right : what please me in Android is its geeky side. I mean its virtually infinite possibilities of customization, and app that can do everything you want. But indeed that's a thing that please geeks. That please my geeky side !
But I'm really keen on WP, because it has a minimalistic design and an elegance that Android lacks totally. Really totally. And the os can do more things out-of-the-box, without the need of installing of even use an app.
My main point is that WP7 is really elegant, Android is not. But the features, possibilities you have with it are astonidshing. So I'm really in a mess with choosing one or the other. That's hardware that will decide (Razr is awesome, Galaxy Nexus seems really good, but I wait for Nokia phones...they know "one things or two" in terms of design...)
27. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
That Ballmer is one of the most repulsive public figures I know.
Makes me want to puke
31. IEatApples (Posts: 66; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)
I don't see how Microsoft can make it in this maker. They are just to far behind and the upgrades they are making are coming to slow for windows phone to make any sort of impression in anyone's mind. I don't think carrier reps will push it and I don't think people will buy it. I think Microsoft should just stay focused on windows 8 for upcoming tablets.
68. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
I think your analyses is flawed. Looks more or less negative advertisement to me.
32. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
You people are pathetic.
I sell for AT&T and WP7 is perfect for anyone that isnt an app downloading nerd that lives on their phone for EVERYTHING and perfect for ease of use with the people that hate Apple for all of the issues that horrible phone has.
WP7 is by far the most balaced OS out there and if sales people KNEW their jobs and learned their OS's they wouldbe pushing WP7 to ALLOT more customers.
Its has ease of use, all the bells and whistles of Android with the Mango Update, quality games built on the xbox platform, live tiles, cloud syncing...etc
Everyone should be switching to WP7 now that new hardware is coming out!
48. SuperEd (Posts: 132; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Well said sir! I agree totally. I've had iOS, Andriod, etc. WP7 Mango is by far the best of all worlds. Andriod=Honda Accord (for the common folk) iOS=Audi (overpriced imported german car and everyone has one of these too) WP=BMW (the ultimate smarphoning machine)
53. ChrisTheTechGuy (Posts: 85; Member since: 04 Nov 2010)
I too work for a carrier. ive had every OS, just so if I get that call about whatever OS, I was prepared. Naturally I got a WP7 device so that when someone called needing assistance, I wasn't left in the dark. I wasn't expecting to like it as much as I do, but I have no intention of activating my android device I was using prior to this...
33. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Okay- 2 points here from me:
1) When Steve Spurrier was in charge at the University of Florida Football team, there were a lot of things said back and forth from Florida State, and yet to this day he and Bobby Bowden are still very cordial and had no real problems. Why? He and Bobby had an understanding: NEVER take anything personal if it was said to boosters or at pep rallies. Why on Earth would anyone take offense what Mr. Ballmer said, who is known for pumping up the troops, at what is basically a Windows pep rally?
2) E-NUFF with the "you can do so much more and the specs are oh so much better on Android" stuff. Well... DUH!!! Only the most dead-headed WP fan boy would argue that. (Actually, I do not think we have those yet, but we will get there.) Android is more advanced, polished, and has more options, better sales, and more carriers and producers. Fine. WP is a new, start from fresh, try and be different OS. They are trying to find a fine line between the control and ease of Apple without being so restrictive while not allowing the fragmentation or disadvantages of being completely open as Android. It is a work in progress. It is a smooth. It is well supported. It is very much improved by a light year over where it was in 2010, and it's updates have gone to every handset to every owner, or will soon. It will never be Android. So what?
By the way- take your shots now. WP8 will be everything they are hoping for in Microsoft, and it will also be intergrated into peoples lives through their PC's and laptops. Than the playing field will be much more level, and boy will those pep rallies be fun.....
43. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Really like your response.
Every company will try to push its own products, that is a given. If people take offense to that, then they are taking things a little too personally.
Android currently is and will remain the most open OS between iOS, Android, and WP7. This will allow it the benefit of not being limited in functionality by the OS itself, only by the apps available. That being said, it does irk me a little when people keep saying WP7 is not as polished or feature-rich as Android. The fact is, Mango as an OS has tons of functionality built in, not even taking apps into consideration. What you lack in WP7 is the ability to customize all of these features to the n-th degree. What you gain by the lack of customization is a smooth experience even at minimum hardware requirements, and reliable updates.
WP7 is built to be used as a mobile device. Functional, smooth, and not time-consuming. If you have the desire and the time to use an Android device, go for it. If what you want is a mobile device that will do the things you would typically want to do on the go, then I believe WP7 is a more compelling option.
40. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
obivously there are more geeks than wp7 users :)
44. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Ouch. Okay, well .... Maybe. Fine, buddy, I'll give ya that one. :-D
63. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
Actually those angry Android users in here are actually fanboys. The rest are average everyday regular smart phone users who doesn't know any better but fallow the crowd.
42. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
Another idiot CEO
Maybe he prepares to sell nokia to m$
49. SuperEd (Posts: 132; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Wow...you must be one of the minions of the world and hate the establishment?
47. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I had a win 6.5 phone - it is for techies....
50. Smg-Uk (Posts: 24; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
Your a idiot if you think Windows Mobile & Windows Phone are the same thing
51. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
You are the idiot - I never said they were I said WIN 6.5 is for techies....
67. Smg-Uk (Posts: 24; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
A article about android and wp7 and your the only one talking about WM 6.5 what a twat